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Sagittal notation: Changed "simplest ratio" to "simplest interval". Changed colons to slashes and dash. Gave the truly-simplest (2,3-free) interval in addition to the octave-reduced interval. Replaced hair-space with nbhsp template call.
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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
|Ratio = 736/729
| Ratio = 736/729
|Name = 23-limit Tenney/Cage comma (HEJI)
| Name = 23-limit Tenney/Cage comma (HEJI)
|Color name = s23o2, satwetho 2nd
| Color name = s23o2, satwetho 2nd
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
}}
}}
'''736/729''', the '''23-limit Tenney/Cage comma''', is a 2.3.23 subgroup comma. It is the amount by which 23/16 (the 23rd harmonic) exceeds the Pythagorean augemented fourth (729/512). It is significant in [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby 23-limit (vicesimotertial) interval.
'''736/729''', the '''23-limit Tenney/Cage comma''', is a 2.3.23 subgroup comma. It is the amount by which the octave-reduced 23rd harmonic [[23/16]] exceeds the [[729/512|Pythagorean augmented fourth (729/512)]].  


== Sagittal notation ==
== Notation ==
This interval is significant in the [[Functional Just System]] and [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby 23-limit (vicesimotertial) interval. The symbols being used in Helmholtz-Ellis notation are virtually identical to up and down arrows, and the authors attribute them to [[James Tenney]] and {{w|John Cage}}, who have possibly used them for [[72edo|1\72]].
 
=== Sagittal notation ===
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | |~ }} and is called the '''23 comma''', or '''23C''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 23/1 (equiv. 23/16), as for example in F-B{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | |~ }}. The downward version is called '''1/23C''' or '''23C down''' and is represented by {{sagittal| !~ }}.
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | |~ }} and is called the '''23 comma''', or '''23C''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 23/1 (equiv. 23/16), as for example in F-B{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | |~ }}. The downward version is called '''1/23C''' or '''23C down''' and is represented by {{sagittal| !~ }}.
[[Category:Commas named after music theorists]]
[[Category:Commas named after composers]]