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: [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 13:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:: Yes, that's why I attempted to delete what I wrote on the 29edo article.

:: --[[User:Contribution|Contribution]] ([[User talk:Contribution|talk]]) 16:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

::: I'm of the opinion that there is no such thing as accoustic pi or accoustic any irrational number. However, I think accoustic phi exists as a series of rational numbers that build on themselves recursively and naturally (5:8:13:21:34:55:...) and therefore it has potential importance sonically. However, I disagree with the notion that logarithmic phi is irrelevant. Phi is important because it is the most efficient number for escaping rational approximations, therefore it generates a progression of smooth recursively nested/interrelated structures; MOSSes (Moment Of Symmetry Scales) specifically. (Scales generated by 741.6407865c.) Note that this concept works for any period, so you could do the same thing but interpreting phi (~1.618 or ~-0.618; both are equivalent under period-equivalence) as describing an amount of tritaves, or fifths, etc. It is interesting to me that, for example, [[34edo]] approximates logarithmic phi, as it is a great system non-meantone system. Similarly you can use phi in yet other ways like in the case of [[golden meantone]], which highlights [[31edo]] as especially interesting as a great meantone system. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 02:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

::: Also note how it isn't a coincidence that the approximation of logarithmic phi in [[34edo]] is 21/34 octaves. :) --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 03:00, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

:::: Well, other acoustic quadratic roots are just like acoustic phi and have associated rational series. For the same reason we might find logarithmic quadratic roots relevant, too. I've also heard that acoustic e is the limit of something. I think we can agree that pi, either acoustic or logarithmic, is irrelevant. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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 : [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 13:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
+:: Yes, that's why I attempted to delete what I wrote on the 29edo article.
+:: --[[User:Contribution|Contribution]] ([[User talk:Contribution|talk]]) 16:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
+::: I'm of the opinion that there is no such thing as accoustic pi or accoustic any irrational number. However, I think accoustic phi exists as a series of rational numbers that build on themselves recursively and naturally (5:8:13:21:34:55:...) and therefore it has potential importance sonically. However, I disagree with the notion that logarithmic phi is irrelevant. Phi is important because it is the most efficient number for escaping rational approximations, therefore it generates a progression of smooth recursively nested/interrelated structures; MOSSes (Moment Of Symmetry Scales) specifically. (Scales generated by 741.6407865c.) Note that this concept works for any period, so you could do the same thing but interpreting phi (~1.618 or ~-0.618; both are equivalent under period-equivalence) as describing an amount of tritaves, or fifths, etc. It is interesting to me that, for example, [[34edo]] approximates logarithmic phi, as it is a great system non-meantone system. Similarly you can use phi in yet other ways like in the case of [[golden meantone]], which highlights [[31edo]] as especially interesting as a great meantone system. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 02:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
+::: Also note how it isn't a coincidence that the approximation of logarithmic phi in [[34edo]] is 21/34 octaves. :) --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 03:00, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
+:::: Well, other acoustic quadratic roots are just like acoustic phi and have associated rational series. For the same reason we might find logarithmic quadratic roots relevant, too. I've also heard that acoustic e is the limit of something. I think we can agree that pi, either acoustic or logarithmic, is irrelevant. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)