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::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we *need* this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:[[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

::A page after being redirected is supposed to have this, but hard redirect bypasses it. A regular redirect to itself doesn't [[crash]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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 ::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we *need* this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 :::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
+::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
+:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
+:[[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
+::A page after being redirected is supposed to have this, but hard redirect bypasses it. A regular redirect to itself doesn't [[crash]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)