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* Jubilic ([[50/49]]) → [[Jubilismic clan #Jubilic|Jubilismic clan]]
* Jubilic ([[50/49]]) → [[Jubilismic clan #Jubilic|Jubilismic clan]]
* Didacus ([[3136/3125]]) → [[Hemimean clan #Didacus|Hemimean clan]]
* Didacus ([[3136/3125]]) → [[Hemimean clan #Didacus|Hemimean clan]]
* Mercy ([[823543/819200]]) → [[Quince clan #Mercy|Quince clan]]
* Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ([[4194304/4117715]]) → [[Llywelynsmic clan #Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe|Llywelynsmic clan]]
* Sidewalk ([[823543/800000]]) → [[2023/2000 #Sidewalk]]
* Sidewalk ([[823543/800000]]) → [[2023/2000 #Sidewalk]]
=== Rainy ===
In rainy, three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. It is the no-3's [[restriction]] of [[tertiaseptal]] (and [[valentine]]), notable theoretically as it equates ([[2/1]])/([[5/4]])<sup>3</sup> (128/125, the lesser diesis) with ([[2/1]])/([[8/7]])<sup>5</sup> (the 2.7-subgroup [[cloudy comma]], which is similar to the 2.5-subgroup lesser diesis in that tempering it out tunes the 8/7 about 8.8{{cent}} sharp, while tempering out 128/125 similarly sharpens the 5/4 by about 13.7{{cent}}). By tempering out their difference, stacked 5's and stacked 7's become easier to navigate, using the general-purpose diesis to simplify clusters.
A highly notable tuning of rainy not shown here is [[311edo]], which is 140 + 171 so tuned between them.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Comma list]]: [[2100875/2097152]]
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 2 3 | 0 5 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 2 3 | 0 0 5 -3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~256/245
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0939{{c}}, ~256/245 = 77.2107{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.094 -0.072 -0.176 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/245 = 77.2093{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.267 -0.454 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 16, 31, 109, 140, 171, 373, 544, 1259, 1803d }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.156


=== Augment ===
=== Augment ===
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Badness (Sintel): 0.196
Badness (Sintel): 0.196
=== Mabilic ===
{{Main| Mabilic and trismegistus }}
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Mabilic }}
Mabilic is the no-3 [[restriction]] of [[mavila family #Armodue|armodue]] (7 & 16), [[magic family #Trismegistus|trismegistus]] (16 & 25), and [[mabila family #Semabila|semabila]] (25 & 34). It is the 7 & 9 temperament in the [[2.5.7 subgroup]], and tempers out [[1071875/1048576]], the mabilisma. [[Weak extension]]s of mabilic include [[archytas clan #Sixix|sixix]] (7 & 25), [[vishnu family #Vishnean|vishnean]] (16 & 34), [[marvel temperaments #Septimin|septimin]] (9 & 41) and [[tetracot family #Monkey|monkey]] (7 & 34).
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 1071875/1048576
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 5 | 0 3 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 1 5 | 0 0 3 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~175/128
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.2543{{c}}, ~175/128 = 527.7872{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.254 -1.698 -1.491 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~175/128 = 527.2041{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -4.701 -4.846 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25, 41, 66, 305ccdd, 371ccddd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.70
=== Ostara ===
Ostara is a temperament that is derived from 93 & 524 solar calendar leap rule scale, interpreted in general no-3's 19-limit. It is a weak extension of the unnamed 2.5.7-subgroup 28 & 31 temperament, which tempers out 8589934592/8544921875.
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11
Comma list: 8589934592/8544921875, 30691800524/30517578125
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 | 0 3 -39 119 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5120/3773
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9115{{c}}, ~5120/3773 = 528.9650{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5120/3773 = 529.0037{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 245e, 338, 955c, 1386c }}
Badness (Sintel): 11.7
==== 2.5.7.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 1001/1000, 34420736/34328125, 5670699008/5661858125
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9194{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 528.9681{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 529.0036{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 245e, 338, 431, 1386c }}
Badness (Sintel): 3.42
==== 2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 1001/1000, 32768/32725, 147968/147875, 537824/537251
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 42 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9054{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 528.9628{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 529.0046{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 338, 431, 955c, 1386cg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.99
==== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 1001/1000, 2128/2125, 3328/3325, 16807/16796, 147968/147875
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 42 21 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86 -38 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9081{{c}}, ~19/14 = 528.9639{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/14 = 529.0045{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 338, 431, 955c, 1386cg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.29


=== Frostburn ===
=== Frostburn ===
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Badness (Sintel): 0.463


=== Mabilic ===
=== Rainy ===
{{Main| Mabilic and trismegistus }}
In rainy, three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. It is the no-3's [[restriction]] of [[tertiaseptal]] (and [[valentine]]), notable theoretically as it equates ([[2/1]])/([[5/4]])<sup>3</sup> (128/125, the lesser diesis) with ([[2/1]])/([[8/7]])<sup>5</sup> (the 2.7-subgroup [[cloudy comma]], which is similar to the 2.5-subgroup lesser diesis in that tempering it out tunes the 8/7 about 8.8{{cent}} sharp, while tempering out 128/125 similarly sharpens the 5/4 by about 13.7{{cent}}). By tempering out their difference, stacked 5's and stacked 7's become easier to navigate, using the general-purpose diesis to simplify clusters.
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Mabilic }}
 
A highly notable tuning of rainy not shown here is [[311edo]], which is 140 + 171 so tuned between them.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: [[2100875/2097152]]
 
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 2 3 | 0 5 -3 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 2 3 | 0 0 5 -3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~256/245
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0939{{c}}, ~256/245 = 77.2107{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.094 -0.072 -0.176 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/245 = 77.2093{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.267 -0.454 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 16, 31, 109, 140, 171, 373, 544, 1259, 1803d }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.156
 
=== Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ===
Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe is the common [[restriction]] of [[gamelismic clan #Gorgo|gorgo]] (16 & 21), [[breedsmic temperaments #Gorgik|gorgik]] (21 & 37), and [[gariboh clan #Semaja|semaja]] (16 & 37). It can be described as 16 & 21, and tempers out the [[llywelynsma]]. Its generator is a flattened [[~]][[8/7]] whole tone, seven of which give the interval class of [[5/1|5]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-heptaseph. [[Weak extension]]s to the full 7-limit include [[marvel temperaments #Misneb|misneb]] (21 & 32), which splits 8/7 into two for [[15/14]]~[[16/15]] each, [[archytas clan #Ultrapyth|ultrapyth]] (32 & 37), which splits [[16/7]] into two for a [[3/2|perfect fifth]], and [[buzzardsmic clan #Septimal buzzard|buzzard]] (53 & 58), which splits 16/7 into three, each for [[21/16]].
 
; Scales
* [[Shoe5]], [[Shoe6]], [[Shoe11]], [[Shoe16]]
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 4194304/4117715
 
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 3 | 0 7 -1 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 1 3 | 0 0 7 -1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.1974{{c}}, ~8/7 = 226.7586{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.803 +0.194 +2.008 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 226.8388{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.558 +4.335 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 11c, 16, 21, 37, 164d }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.06
 
==== 2.5.7.11 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 1 | 0 7 -1 13 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 1 3 1 | 0 0 7 -1 13 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1784{{c}}, ~8/7 = 226.9582{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.0438{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 206cd, 243cd, …, 354ccdd }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.651
 
==== 2.5.7.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 1 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 1 3 1 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1643{{c}}, ~8/7 = 226.9495{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.0315{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 206cdf, 243cdf, …, 354ccddff }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.319
 
==== 2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 176/175, 221/220, 640/637, 847/845
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3162{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.1125{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.1774{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 95 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.458


Mabilic is the no-3 [[restriction]] of [[mavila family #Armodue|armodue]] (7 & 16), [[magic family #Trismegistus|trismegistus]] (16 & 25), and [[mabila family #Semabila|semabila]] (25 & 34). It is the 7 & 9 temperament in the [[2.5.7 subgroup]], and tempers out [[1071875/1048576]], the mabilisma. [[Weak extension]]s of mabilic include [[archytas clan #Sixix|sixix]] (7 & 25), [[vishnu family #Vishnean|vishnean]] (16 & 34), [[marvel temperaments #Septimin|septimin]] (9 & 41) and [[tetracot family #Monkey|monkey]] (7 & 34).  
=== Mercy ===
Named by {{u|KingHyperio}} in 2021, mercy is the common restriction of [[gamelismic clan #Miracle|miracle]] and [[porwell temperaments #Countermiracle|countermiracle]]. It tempers out the [[quince comma]]. In this temperament, two generators make [[~]][[8/7]], five make ~[[7/5]], and seven make ~[[8/5]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is omega-heptaseph. [[Weak extension]]s of this temperament include [[starling temperaments #Cassablanca|cassablanca]], [[octagar temperaments #Slendi|slendi]], [[ragismic microtemperaments #Quincy|quincy]], [[septischismic clan #Cotoneum|cotoneum]], and [[varunismic temperaments #Octowerck|octowerck]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 1071875/1048576
[[Comma list]]: 823543/819200
 
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 3 3 | 0 -7 -2 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 3 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~343/320
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2169{{c}}, ~343/320 = 116.3116{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.217 +0.156 -0.798 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~343/320 = 116.2576{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.117 -1.341 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 21, 31, 134, 165, 196, 227, 485d, 712d, 1197dd }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.428
 
==== 2.5.7.13 subgroup ====
Presented here is a low-accuracy extension, which may be thought of as a way to conceptualize the 2.5.7.13.17.19 subgroup of [[31edo]].
 
Subgroup: 2.5.7.13
 
Comma list: 343/338, 640/637
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2166{{c}}, ~14/13 = 116.0181{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/13 = 116.2099{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 21, 31 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.546
 
==== 2.5.7.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.13.17
 
Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5476{{c}}, ~14/13 = 115.6294{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/13 = 115.9132{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 21, 31, 83fg }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.451
 
==== 2.5.7.13.17.19 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.13.17.19
 
Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338, 476/475


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 5 | 0 3 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 4 3 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 13 }}


{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 1 5 | 0 0 3 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~175/128


[[Optimal tuning]]s:
Optimal tunings:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.2543{{c}}, ~175/128 = 527.7872{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.4839{{c}}, ~14/13 = 115.5700{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.254 -1.698 -1.491 }}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/13 = 115.7299{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~175/128 = 527.2041{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -4.701 -4.846 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25, 41, 66, 305ccdd, 371ccddd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10h, 21, 31, 52f, 83fg }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.70
Badness (Sintel): 0.759


=== Huntington ===
=== Huntington ===
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Badness (Sintel): 0.504
Badness (Sintel): 0.504
=== Ostara ===
Ostara is a temperament that is derived from 93 & 524 solar calendar leap rule scale, interpreted in general no-3's 19-limit. It is a weak extension of the unnamed 2.5.7-subgroup 28 & 31 temperament, which tempers out 8589934592/8544921875.
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11
Comma list: 8589934592/8544921875, 30691800524/30517578125
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 | 0 3 -39 119 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5120/3773
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9115{{c}}, ~5120/3773 = 528.9650{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5120/3773 = 529.0037{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 245e, 338, 955c, 1386c }}
Badness (Sintel): 11.7
==== 2.5.7.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 1001/1000, 34420736/34328125, 5670699008/5661858125
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9194{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 528.9681{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 529.0036{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 245e, 338, 431, 1386c }}
Badness (Sintel): 3.42
==== 2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 1001/1000, 32768/32725, 147968/147875, 537824/537251
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 42 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9054{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 528.9628{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~1664/1225 = 529.0046{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 338, 431, 955c, 1386cg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.99
==== 2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 1001/1000, 2128/2125, 3328/3325, 16807/16796, 147968/147875
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 20 -49 35 42 21 | 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86 -38 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9081{{c}}, ~19/14 = 528.9639{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/14 = 529.0045{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 93, 338, 431, 955c, 1386cg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.29


=== Bastille ===
=== Bastille ===
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Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
* Jacobin superfamily ([[6656/6655]]) → [[The Jacobins]]
* Jacobin superfamily ([[6656/6655]]) → [[The Jacobins]]
=== Sephiroth ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Sephiroth }}
Sephiroth is the common [[restriction]] of [[magic family #Muggles|muggles]] and [[avicennmic temperaments #Submerged|submerged]].
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
[[Comma list]]: 34375/32768
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 15 | 0 1 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 0 15 | 0 0 1 0 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1203.3290{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.6097{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +3.329 -6.046 -2.722 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 372.1586{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -14.155 -12.111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29, 132cceee }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.85
==== 2.5.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13
Comma list: 65/64, 6875/6656
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 15 6 | 0 1 -5 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 0 15 6 | 0 0 1 0 -5 -1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.3825{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.6318{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 372.1519{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29, 132cceeeff }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.410
==== 2.5.11.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13.17
Comma list: 65/64, 170/169, 221/220
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 15 6 11 | 0 1 -5 -1 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 0 15 6 11 | 0 0 1 0 -5 -1 -3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.6741{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.3775{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 371.6773{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29g, 129ccceeffgggg }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.299


=== Wizz ===
=== Wizz ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Wizz }}
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Wizz }}


Wizz, the 6 & 16 temperament in the 2.5.11 subgroup, tempers out [[15625/15488]], and is the common [[restriction]] of [[astrology]] and [[wizard]].  
Wizz, the 6 & 16 temperament in the 2.5.11 subgroup, tempers out [[15625/15488]], and is the common [[restriction]] of [[jubilismic clan #Astrology|astrology]] and [[stearnsmic clan #Wizard|wizard]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
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=== Movila ===
=== Movila ===
This temperament has a structure very similar to [[mavila]] but is somewhat more accurate because the generator is a flat [[11/8]] rather than a sharp [[4/3]]. The major third is still ~[[5/4]], but the minor third is now ~[[64/55]] instead of ~[[6/5]].
This temperament has a structure very similar to [[mavila family #Mavila|mavila]] but is somewhat more accurate because the generator is a flat [[11/8]] rather than a sharp [[4/3]]. The major third is still ~[[5/4]], but the minor third is now ~[[64/55]] instead of ~[[6/5]].


[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.718
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.718
=== Sephiroth ===
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Sephiroth }}
Sephiroth is the common [[restriction]] of [[muggles]] and [[submerged]].
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11
[[Comma list]]: 34375/32768
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 15 | 0 1 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 0 15 | 0 0 1 0 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1203.3290{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.6097{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +3.329 -6.046 -2.722 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 372.1586{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -14.155 -12.111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29, 132cceee }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.85
==== 2.5.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13
Comma list: 65/64, 6875/6656
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 15 6 | 0 1 -5 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 0 15 6 | 0 0 1 0 -5 -1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.3825{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.6318{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 372.1519{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29, 132cceeeff }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.410
==== 2.5.11.13.17 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.5.11.13.17
Comma list: 65/64, 170/169, 221/220
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 15 6 11 | 0 1 -5 -1 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 0 15 6 11 | 0 0 1 0 -5 -1 -3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.6741{{c}}, ~5/4 = 373.3775{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 371.6773{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 10, 13, 16, 29g, 129ccceeffgggg }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.299


=== Trader ===
=== Trader ===
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[[Comma list]]: 26/25
[[Comma list]]: 26/25


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 2 3 | 0 1 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 -1 | 0 1 2 }}
: mapping generators, ~2, ~5/4
: mapping generators, ~2, ~5


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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=== Argument ===
=== Argument ===
Argument tempers out [[1372/1331]] in the 2.7.11 subgroup. It is the no-3 [[restriction]] of [[#Augment|augment]].  
Argument tempers out [[1372/1331]] in the 2.7.11 subgroup, equating [[14/11]] to a step of [[3edo]]. It is the no-3 [[restriction]] of [[#Augment|augment]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.7.11
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=== Scaevola ===
=== Scaevola ===
Scaevola is the 2.7.11-subgroup temperament tempering out 14641/14336, with a generator of [[11/8]] and mapping +4 generators is to [[7/4]]. Two strong extensions are [[score]] to 2.7.11.13 and [[joan]] to 2.9.7.11. Scaevola has a structure that is very similar to [[mavila]], but whereas Mavila has a "fifth" of [[3/2]], "major third" of [[5/4]], and "minor third" of [[6/5]], scaevola has a "fifth" of [[16/11]], "major third" of [[14/11]], and "minor third" of [[8/7]], substituting Mavila's 4:5:6 for 11:14:16. Essentially, Scaevola can be seen as a counterpart of Mavila for fifths even flatter than [[9edo]], such as [[11edo]]'s fifth. It was named by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] in 2026, referring to ''Scaevola'' (the genus of flowering plants), which is meant to sound reminiscent of "score" and "mavila" (the score and joan temperaments were actually named prior to this temperament).
Scaevola is the 2.7.11-subgroup temperament tempering out 14641/14336, with a generator of [[11/8]] and mapping +4 generators to [[7/4]]. Two strong extensions are [[#Score|score]] to 2.7.11.13 and [[subgroup temperaments #Joan|joan]] to 2.9.7.11.  
 
Scaevola has a structure that is very similar to [[mavila family #Mavila|mavila]], but whereas mavila has a "fifth" of [[3/2]], "major third" of [[5/4]], and "minor third" of [[6/5]], scaevola has a "fifth" of [[16/11]], "major third" of [[14/11]], and "minor third" of [[8/7]], substituting mavila's 4:5:6 for 11:14:16. Essentially, Scaevola can be seen as a counterpart of mavila for fifths even flatter than [[9edo]], such as [[11edo]]'s fifth.  
 
It was named by [[CompactStar]] in 2026, referring to ''{{w|Scaevola}}'' (the genus of flowering plants), which is meant to sound reminiscent of ''score'' and ''mavila'' (the score and joan temperaments were actually named prior to this temperament).


[[Subgroup]]: 2.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.7.11
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{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 3 | 0 4 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 3 | 0 4 1 }}


{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 1 3 | 0 0 0 4 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/8
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/8


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.248{{c}}, ~11/8 = 542.116{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.2479{{c}}, ~11/8 = 542.1162{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 541.940{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.248 +0.887 -5.458 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 541.9403{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.065 -9.378 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| TBA}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 7d, 9, 11, 20, 31, 51, 82e, 113e, 195eee }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.578
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.578
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{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Score }}
{{See also| Chromatic pairs #Score }}


Score is an extension of scaevola that equates [[13/8]] to +6 generators.
Score is an extension of scaevola that maps [[13/8]] to +6 generators.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.7.11.13


[[Comma list]]: 343/338, 847/832
Comma list: 343/338, 847/832


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 3 1 | 0 4 1 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 1 | 0 4 1 6 }}


{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 1 3 1 | 0 0 0 4 1 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 1 3 1 | 0 0 0 4 1 6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~11/8


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
Optimal tunings:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.5484{{c}}, ~11/8 = 540.7963{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1201.5484{{c}}, ~11/8 = 540.7963{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 540.5091{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 540.5091{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 11, 20 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 11, 20 }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.368
Badness (Sintel): 0.368


=== Bossier ===
=== Bossier ===
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{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 1 3 | 0 8 7 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 1 3 | 0 8 7 2 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping|| 1 0 0 0 1 3 | 0 0 0 8 7 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 0 0 1 3 | 0 0 0 8 7 2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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[[Comma list]]: 1352/1331
[[Comma list]]: 1352/1331


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 3 3 | 0 2 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 0 | 0 2 3 }}


{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 0 3 3 | 0 0 0 0 2 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 0 0 1 0 | 0 0 0 0 2 3 }}
: mapping generators, ~2, ~13/11
: mapping generators: ~2, ~26/11


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s: