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Temperaments discussed in families and clans are:
Temperaments discussed in families and clans are:
* ''[[Brutus]]'' (+10/9) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Brutus|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Pater]]'' (+16/15) → [[Father family #Pater|Father family]]
* ''[[Pater]]'' (+16/15) → [[Father family #Pater|Father family]]
* [[Meantone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]]
* ''[[Mavling]]'' (+135/128) → [[Mavila family #Mavling|Mavila family]]
* ''[[Grackle]]'' (+32805/32768) → [[Schismatic family #Grackle|Schismatic family]]
* ''[[Flattie]]'' (+21/20) → [[Dicot family #Flattie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Flattie]]'' (+21/20) → [[Dicot family #Flattie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Opossum]]'' (+28/27) → [[Trienstonic clan #Opossum|Trienstonic clan]]
* [[Diaschismic]] (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Septimal diaschismic|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Augene]] (+64/63) → [[Augmented family #Augene|Augmented family]]
* [[Opossum]] (+28/27) → [[Trienstonic clan #Opossum|Trienstonic clan]]
* [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] (+36/35) → [[Diminished family #Septimal diminished|Diminished family]]
* [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] (+36/35) → [[Diminished family #Septimal diminished|Diminished family]]
* [[Wollemia]] (+2240/2187) → [[Tetracot family #Wollemia|Tetracot family]]
* [[Muggles]] (+525/512) → [[Magic family #Muggles|Magic family]]
* ''[[Passionate]]'' (+131072/127575) → [[Passion family #Passionate|Passion family]]
* ''[[Ripple]]'' (+405/392) → [[Ripple family #Septimal ripple|Ripple family]]
* [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]]
* [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]]
* [[Augene]] (+64/63) → [[Augmented family #Augene|Augmented family]]
* [[Meantone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]]
* [[Mavila]] (+135/128) → [[Pelogic family #Mavila|Pelogic family]]
* [[Sensi]] (+245/243), [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]]
* [[Sensi]] (+245/243), [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]]
* [[Muggles]] (+525/512) → [[Magic family #Muggles|Magic family]]
* [[Valentine]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Valentine|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Diaschismic]]'' (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Septimal diaschismic|Diaschismic family]]
* ''[[Wollemia]]'' (+2240/2187) → [[Tetracot family #Wollemia|Tetracot family]]
* ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Unicorn]]'' (+10976/10935) → [[Unicorn family #Unicorn|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Coblack]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Trisedodge family #Coblack|Trisedodge family]] / [[Cloudy clan #Coblack|cloudy clan]]
* ''[[Grackle]]'' (+32805/32768) → [[Schismatic family #Grackle|Schismatic family]]
* ''[[Worschmidt]]'' (+33075/32768) → [[Würschmidt family #Worschmidt|Würschmidt family]]
* ''[[Worschmidt]]'' (+33075/32768) → [[Würschmidt family #Worschmidt|Würschmidt family]]
* [[Valentine]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Valentine|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Muscogee]]'' (+33756345/33554432) → [[Mabila family #Muscogee|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Thuja]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Thuja|Buzzardsmic clan]]
* ''[[Thuja]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Thuja|Buzzardsmic clan]]
* ''[[Passionate]]'' (+131072/127575) → [[Passion family #Passionate|Passion family]]
* ''[[Paraguay]]'' (+12005/11664) → [[Parakleismic family #Paraguay|Parakleismic family]]
* ''[[Vishnean]]'' (+540225/524288) → [[Vishnuzmic family #Vishnean|Vishnuzmic family]]
* ''[[Diton]]'' (+8751645/8388608) → [[Ditonmic family #Diton|Ditonmic family]]
* ''[[Ditonic]]'' (+8751645/8388608) → [[Ditonmic family #Ditonic|Ditonmic family]]
* ''[[Vishnean]]'' (+540225/524288) → [[Vishnu family #Vishnean|Vishnu family]]
* ''[[Muscogee]]'' (+33756345/33554432) → [[Mabila family #Muscogee|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Bisemidim]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Bisemidim|Stearnsmic clan]]
* ''[[Coblack]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Trisedodge family #Coblack|Trisedodge family]]
 
Considered below are myna, nusecond, oolong, vines, kumonga, cypress, casablanca, amigo, supersensi, and cobalt, sorted by increasing [[badness]].


Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} 126/125 × 12/7}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is actually three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, contrary to the popular belief that it is four stacked minor thirds.  
Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} (126/125)⋅(12/7)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord.  


== Myna ==
== Myna ==
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Mynic]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Mynic]].''


7-limit myna is naturally found by establishing a structure of thirds, by making [[7/6]]–[[6/5]]–[[49/40]]–[[5/4]]–[[9/7]] all equidistant (the distances between which are [[36/35]], [[49/48]], and [[50/49]]). 11-limit myna then arises from equating this neutral third to [[11/9]]. Myna's characteristic feature is that the pental thirds are tuned outwards so that the chroma between them ([[25/24]]) is twice the size of the interval between the pental and septimal thirds ([[36/35]]), leaving space for a neutral third in between. In that sense, it is opposed to [[keemic temperaments]], where the chroma between the pental thirds is the same as the distance between the pental and septimal thirds.
7-limit myna is naturally found by establishing a structure of thirds, by making [[7/6]]–[[6/5]]–[[49/40]]–[[5/4]]–[[9/7]] all equidistant (the distances between which are [[36/35]], [[49/48]], and [[50/49]]). [[11-limit]] myna then arises from equating this neutral third to [[11/9]]. Myna's characteristic feature is that the pental thirds are tuned outwards so that the chroma between them ([[25/24]]) is twice the size of the interval between the pental and septimal thirds ([[36/35]]). In that sense, it is opposed to [[keemic temperaments]], in particular [[quasitemp]], where the distance between the pental and septimal thirds is the same as the chroma between the pental thirds and different from the septimal dieses.
 
In terms of vanishing commas, in addition to 126/125, myna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 31 }} temperament, and has a [[ploidacot]] signature of beta-decacot. It has [[~]][[6/5]] as a generator.  


In terms of commas tempered, in addition to 126/125, myna adds [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 31 }} temperament. It has 6/5 as a generator, and [[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round amounts in cents may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11 and 13 limits.
[[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round cent values may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11- and 13-limit.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~6/5 = {{monzo| 1/10 1/10 0 0}}
* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~6/5 = {{monzo| 1/10 1/10 0 0}}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 0 1 0 0 | 9/10 9/10 0 0 | 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 0 1 0 0 | 9/10 9/10 0 0 | 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.3


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 31, 58, 89, 236cc }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 31, 58, 89, 236cc }}
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 243/242
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 243/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 196/195
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 196/195


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 -3 5 | 0 10 9 7 25 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 5 | 0 10 9 7 25 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 78/77, 91/90, 126/125, 176/175
Comma list: 78/77, 91/90, 126/125, 176/175


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -2 | 0 10 9 7 25 22 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -2 | 0 10 9 7 25 22 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 126/125, 243/242
Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 126/125, 243/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 26 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 -3 -3 | 0 10 9 7 25 26 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 385/384
Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 5 | 0 10 9 7 -6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 5 | 0 10 9 7 -6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 1728/1715
Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 1728/1715


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 0 1 4 | 0 10 9 7 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 0 1 4 | 0 10 9 7 -2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Nusecond]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Nusecond]].''


Nusecond tempers out [[2430/2401]] and [[16875/16807]] in addition to 126/125, and may be described as {{nowrap| 31 & 70 }}. It has a neutral second generator of [[49/45]], two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.
Nusecond tempers out [[2430/2401]] and [[16875/16807]] in addition to 126/125, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 39d }} temperament. It has a neutral second generator of [[49/45]], two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. Note that in the data below, the generator is its [[octave complement]] since eleven such generators [[octave reduction|octave reduced]] give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]; its [[ploidacot]] is thus theta-hendecacot.
 
[[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125
Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 | 0 11 13 17 12 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 | 0 11 13 17 12 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125
Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 -5 | 0 11 13 17 12 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -8 -9 -12 -7 -5 | 0 11 13 17 12 10 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 | 0 17 18 20 56 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 | 0 17 18 20 56 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 0 | 0 17 18 20 56 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -11 -11 -12 -38 0 | 0 17 18 20 56 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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== Vines ==
== Vines ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Vines]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Vines]].''
Vines may be described as the {{nowrap| 46 & 50 }} temperament. It has a [[semi-octave]] period and a [[~]][[6/5]] generator. Eight generators minus three periods give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]], so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is diploid gamma-octacot. [[96edo]] in the 96d val may be recommended as a tuning.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376
Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376


Mapping: {{mapping| 2 -1 1 3 9 | 0 8 7 5 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -1 1 3 9 | 0 8 7 5 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 2 -1 1 3 9 10 | 0 8 7 5 -4 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 -1 1 3 9 10 | 0 8 7 5 -4 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.23
Badness (Sintel): 1.23
== Xenial ==
{{Main| Xenial }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Xenial]].''
Named by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] in 2026, xenial may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 70 }} temperament, splitting the [[8/3|perfect eleventh]] into nine equal parts, each for ~[[10/9]]. Equivalently, a stack of nine [[9/5]]s is equated with the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] above 7 [[octave]]s, so the [[ploidacot]] for the temperament is zeta-enneacot, and from this it derives its name.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 177147/175616
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 -12 -25 | 0 9 17 33 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0095{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1532{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.010 -1.634 +3.176 -1.009 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1456{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.644 +3.162 -1.021 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.13
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 16384/16335
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 | 0 9 17 33 -22 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6137{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.8717{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.1915{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.31
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 729/728
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8559{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0911{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2102{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.98
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6970{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9792{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2323{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cd, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.06
=== 19-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 171/170, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7741{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.0334{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2230{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.03
=== 23-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Comma list: 126/125, 162/161, 169/168, 171/170, 208/207, 221/220, 231/230
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -6 -12 -25 22 -14 26 27 2 | 0 9 17 33 -22 21 -26 -27 3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6628{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1010.9415{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~9/5 = 1011.2245{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 51cdh, 70, 89 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.93


== Kumonga ==
== Kumonga ==
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Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 | 0 13 9 1 19 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 | 0 13 9 1 19 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175
Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 -2 | 0 13 9 1 19 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -5 2 -12 -2 | 0 13 9 1 19 7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 | 0 12 17 27 30 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 | 0 12 17 27 30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242
Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 126/125, 243/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 -10 | 0 12 17 27 30 25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -5 -7 -12 -13 -10 | 0 12 17 27 30 25 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.56
Badness (Sintel): 1.56
== Bisemidim ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 118098/117649
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 2 2 | 0 9 11 15 }}
: mapping generators: ~343/243, ~49/45
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~343/243 = 599.8915{{c}}, ~49/45 = 144.5293{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.217 -1.299 +3.292 -1.103 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~343/243 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~49/45 = 144.5351{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.139 +3.572 -0.799 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 50, 58, 108, 166c, 408ccc }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.47
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 1344/1331
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 2 2 5 | 0 9 11 15 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~99/70 = 599.6360{{c}}, ~12/11 = 144.5388{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~12/11 = 144.5623{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 50, 58, 108, 166ce, 224cee }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.36
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 364/363
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 2 2 5 5 | 0 9 11 15 8 10 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/39 = 599.5217{{c}}, ~12/11 = 144.5375{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~12/11 = 144.5698{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 50, 58, 166cef, 224ceeff }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.987


== Casablanca ==
== Casablanca ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Casablanca]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Casablanca]].''


Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma [[823543/819200]] and also [[589824/588245]], and may also be described as {{nowrap| 31 & 73 }}. 74\135 or 91\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note mosses are available.
Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma [[823543/819200]] and also [[589824/588245]], and may be described as {{nowrap| 31 & 73 }} with a [[ploidacot]] signature of eta-19-cot. 61\135 or 75\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note [[mos scale]]s are available.
 
It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the [[~]][[48/35]] generator is particularly interesting; like [[15/14]] and [[21/20]], it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads.  


It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the ~35/24 generator is particularly interesting; like 15/14 and 21/20, it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads. For another, if we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 35/24 is identified with 16/11, and casablanca is revealed as an 11-limit temperament with a very low complexity for 11 and not too high a one for 7; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit meantone.
If we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 48/35 is identified with [[11/8]], and casablanca is revealed as an [[11-limit]] temperament with a very low complexity for [[11/1|11]] and not too high a one for [[7/1|7]]; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit [[meantone]].


Marrakesh, named by [[Herman Miller]] in 2011<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19166.html#19186 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''A rose by any other name . . .'']</ref>, is a more accurate 11-limit extension where the generator is identified with 22/15 as opposed to 16/11 in casablanca.  
Marrakesh, named by [[Herman Miller]] in 2011<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19166.html#19186 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''A rose by any other name . . .'']</ref>, is a more accurate 11-limit extension where the generator is identified with [[15/11]] as opposed to 11/8 in casablanca.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 494: Line 558:
Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401
Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 -4 1 3 | 0 19 14 4 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 3 | 0 19 14 4 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 509: Line 573:
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 -4 1 3 1 | 0 19 14 4 1 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 3 1 | 0 19 14 4 1 6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 524: Line 588:
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 | 0 19 14 4 32 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 | 0 19 14 4 32 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 539: Line 603:
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 15 | 0 19 14 4 32 -25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 15 | 0 19 14 4 32 -25 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 554: Line 618:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 1 | 0 19 14 4 32 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 -4 1 -11 1 | 0 19 14 4 32 6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 589: Line 653:
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 16384/16335
Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 16384/16335


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 2 9 9 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 2 9 9 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 604: Line 668:
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 176/175, 364/363
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 176/175, 364/363


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 2 9 9 5 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 2 9 9 5 | 0 11 1 -19 -17 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.27
Badness (Sintel): 1.27
== Gilead ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Shibboleth]].''
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 343/324
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -5 -6 | 0 9 10 12 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.4516{{c}}, ~5/3 = 879.6394{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.452 +7.542 +2.823 -21.862 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 878.7223{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +6.545 +0.909 -24.159 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11cd, 15, 41dd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.92


== Supersensi ==
== Supersensi ==
Supersensi ({{nowrap| 8d & 43 }}) has supermajor third as a generator like [[sensi]], but the no-fives comma 17496/16807 rather than 245/243 tempered out.
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2022, supersensi tempers out the no-fives comma [[17496/16807]], and may be described as {{nowrap| 8d & 43 }}. It has a ultramajor third generator, which is sharper than the generator for [[sensi]], hence the name. Its [[ploidacot]] is epsilon-15-cot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 659: Line 703:
Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 864/847
Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 864/847


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 | 0 15 17 21 12 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 | 0 15 17 21 12 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 674: Line 718:
Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143
Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 689: Line 733:
Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143
Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 0 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 11 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 -4 -5 -1 -3 0 | 0 15 17 21 12 18 11 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 700: Line 744:


== Cobalt ==
== Cobalt ==
Cobalt ({{nowrap| 27 & 81 }}) has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539, as well as the [[aplonis]] temperament.  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[27th-octave temperaments #Cobalt]].''


The name of the cobalt temperament comes from the 27th element.
Cobalt has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539 as in the [[aplonis]] temperament. It may be described as {{nowrap| 27 & 81 }}.
 
Cobalt was named by [[Xenllium]] in 2022 after the 27th element.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 726: Line 772:
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 21609/21296
Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 21609/21296


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 | 0 1 1 1 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 | 0 1 1 1 2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 741: Line 787:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 21609/21296
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 21609/21296


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 100 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 756: Line 802:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 189/187, 196/195, 1452/1445
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 189/187, 196/195, 1452/1445


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 771: Line 817:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 171/170, 189/187, 196/195, 969/968
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 171/170, 189/187, 196/195, 969/968


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 99 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 79 99 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 2 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 786: Line 832:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 221/220, 12005/11968
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 221/220, 12005/11968


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 801: Line 847:
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 210/209, 221/220, 1088/1083
Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 210/209, 221/220, 1088/1083


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 72 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 100 -18 72 | 0 1 1 1 2 0 3 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 816: Line 862:
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 975/968
Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 540/539, 975/968


Mapping: {{mapping| 27 0 20 33 8 57 | 0 1 1 1 2 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 27 0 20 33 8 57 | 0 1 1 1 2 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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== References ==
== References ==


[[Category:Starling temperaments| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Temperament collections]]
[[Category:Temperament collections]]
[[Category:Starling temperaments| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]]
[[Category:Rank 2]]