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[[Comma list]]: 823543/819200
[[Comma list]]: 823543/819200


{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 | 0 -7 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 3 3 | 0 -7 -2 }}


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 3 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=5| 1 0 3 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~343/320
: mapping generators: ~2, ~343/320


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* ''[[Casablanca]]'' (+126/125) → [[Starling temperaments #Casablanca|Starling temperaments]]
* ''[[Casablanca]]'' (+126/125) → [[Starling temperaments #Casablanca|Starling temperaments]]
* [[Miracle]] (+225/224) → [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Miracle]] (+225/224) → [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Slendi]]'' (+4000/3969) → [[Octagar temperaments #Slendi|Octagar temperaments]]
* ''[[Quincy]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Quincy|Ragismic microtemperaments]]
* ''[[Quincy]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Quincy|Ragismic microtemperaments]]
* ''[[Birds]]'' (+3136/3125) → [[31st-octave temperaments #Birds|31st-octave temperaments]]
* ''[[Birds]]'' (+3136/3125) → [[31st-octave temperaments #Birds|31st-octave temperaments]]
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== Countermiracle ==
== Countermiracle ==
The countermiracle temperament tempers out the porwell comma ([[6144/6125]]), the trimyna comma ([[50421/50000]]) and the quince comma ([[823543/819200]]). It can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 145 }} temperament, and finds the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] -25 generators away (normalized for 2.5.7) as opposed to miracle's +6 generators. It has the [[ploidacot]] signature of 22-sheared 25-cot.  
The countermiracle temperament tempers out the porwell comma ([[6144/6125]]), the trimyna comma ([[50421/50000]]) and the quince comma ([[823543/819200]]). It can be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 176 }} temperament, and finds the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] -25 generators away (normalized for 2.5.7) as opposed to miracle's +6 generators. It has the [[ploidacot]] signature of 22-sheared 25-cot (or omega-heptaseph).  


Like miracle, it is naturally an 11-limit temperament with the generator representing [[77/72]], but here the generator does not represent [[15/14]] or [[16/15]].  
Like miracle, it is naturally an [[11-limit]] temperament with the generator representing [[77/72]], but here the generator does not represent [[15/14]] or [[16/15]]. [[176edo]] makes for a recommendable tuning for both the 7- and 11-limit.
 
Countermiracle extends less naturally to the [[13-limit|13-]] and [[17-limit]], with countermiraculous (31 & 145), countermanna (145 & 176), and counterbenediction (176 & 207) being possible candidates, each favoring a tuning range shown by the [[temperament merging|equal-temperament joins]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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Comma list: 441/440, 3388/3375, 6144/6125
Comma list: 441/440, 3388/3375, 6144/6125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 | 0 25 7 2 47 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 | 0 25 7 2 47 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 1001/1000, 6144/6125
Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 1001/1000, 6144/6125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 | 0 25 7 2 47 -28 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 | 0 25 7 2 47 -28 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 196/195, 256/255, 352/351, 1001/1000, 1225/1224
Comma list: 196/195, 256/255, 352/351, 1001/1000, 1225/1224


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 33 | 0 25 7 2 47 -28 -32 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 33 | 0 25 7 2 47 -28 -32 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 3146/3125, 3584/3575
Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 3146/3125, 3584/3575


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 57 | 0 25 7 2 47 -59 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 57 | 0 25 7 2 47 -59 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 1632/1625, 3146/3125
Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 1632/1625, 3146/3125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 57 61 | 0 25 7 2 47 -59 -63 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 29 57 61 | 0 25 7 2 47 -59 -63 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 3388/3375, 6144/6125
Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 3388/3375, 6144/6125


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 -102 | 0 25 7 2 47 117 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 -102 | 0 25 7 2 47 117 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 1632/1625, 3388/3375
Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 1632/1625, 3388/3375


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 -102 -98 | 0 25 7 2 47 117 113 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -21 -4 1 -39 -102 -98 | 0 25 7 2 47 117 113 }}


Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 2.08
Badness (Sintel): 2.08
=== Counterrevelation ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 50421/50000
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -11 | 0 25 7 2 16 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1897{{c}}, ~275/147 = 1084.2521{{c}} (~343/320 = 115.9375{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~275/147 = 1084.0850{{c}} (~343/320 = 115.9150{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 114, 145e }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.12
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 13750/13689
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -11 29 | 0 25 7 2 16 -28 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7651{{c}}, ~220/117 = 1083.9253{{c}} (~117/110 = 115.8398{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~220/117 = 1084.1357{{c}} (~117/110 = 115.8643{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 83, 114 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.38
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 121/120, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195, 10647/10625
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -21 -4 1 -11 29 33 | 0 25 7 2 16 -28 -32 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6935{{c}}, ~170/91 = 1083.8704{{c}} (~91/85 = 115.8231{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~170/91 = 1084.1464{{c}} (~91/85 = 115.8536{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 83, 114 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.24


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
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Comma list: 343/338, 640/637
Comma list: 343/338, 640/637


Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 3 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 3 3 0 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338
Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338


Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 3 4 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 4 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338, 476/475
Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 343/338, 476/475


Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 3 4 4 3 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 13 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 3 3 4 4 3 | 0 -7 -2 -3 1 13 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 13 }}
{{Mapping|legend=4| 1 0 3 3 0 4 4 3 | 0 0 -7 -2 0 -3 1 13 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 0.759
Badness (Sintel): 0.759


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