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== Cathartic ==
== Cathartic ==
{{Main| Canou }}
[[File:Lattice Orthocanousmic.png|thumb|Lattice for cathartic.]]
[[File:Lattice Orthocanousmic Rearranged.png|thumb|Ditto, but re-arranged into hemitwelfths.]]
{{See also| Cathartic scales }}


Cathartic (formerly ''canou'') features a [[period]] of an [[octave]] and [[generator]]s of [[3/2]] and [[81/70]]. The ~81/70 generator is about 255 cents wide, three of which make [[14/9]], and four make [[9/5]]. It therefore splits the large septimal diesis, [[49/48]], into three equal parts, guaranteeing the existence of two [[interseptimal interval]]s related to the 35th harmonic.  
Cathartic (formerly ''canou'') features a [[period]] of an [[octave]] and [[generator]]s of [[3/2]] and [[81/70]]. The ~81/70 generator is about 255 cents wide, three of which make [[14/9]], and four make [[9/5]]. It therefore splits the large septimal diesis, [[49/48]], into three equal parts, guaranteeing the existence of two [[interseptimal interval]]s related to the 35th harmonic.  


A basic tuning option would be [[99edo]], although [[80edo]] is even simpler and distinctive. More intricate tunings are provided by [[311edo]] and [[410edo]], whereas the [[optimal patent val]] goes up to [[1131edo]], associating it with the [[amicable]] temperament.  
A basic tuning option would be [[99edo]], although [[80edo]] is even simpler and distinctive. More intricate tunings are provided by [[311edo]] and [[410edo]], whereas the [[optimal patent val]] goes up to [[1131edo]], associating it with the [[amicable]] temperament.  
9-, 14- and 19-note scales are highly characteristic for the temperament, with the abundance of [[28/27]] subminor seconds making it melodically active.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Undecimal cathartic ==
== Undecimal cathartic ==
The fifth is in the range where a stack of four (i.e. a major third) can serve as ~[[19/15]] and a stack of five (i.e. a major seventh) can serve as ~[[19/10]], tempering out [[1216/1215]]. Moreover, the last generator of ~81/70 is sharpened to slightly overshoot [[22/19]], so it only makes sense to temper out their difference, [[1540/1539]]. The implied 11-limit comma is the [[symbiotic comma]], which suggests the [[wilschisma]] should also be tempered out in the [[13-limit]].  
The fifth is in the range where a stack of four (i.e. a major third) can serve as ~[[19/15]] and a stack of five (i.e. a major seventh) can serve as ~[[19/10]], tempering out [[1216/1215]]. Moreover, the last generator of ~81/70 is sharpened to slightly overshoot [[22/19]], so it only makes sense to temper out their difference, [[1540/1539]]. The implied 11-limit comma is the [[symbiotic comma]].  


Since the syntonic comma has been split in two, it is natural to map [[19/17]] to the mean of [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], tempering out [[1445/1444]], while the other 11-limit comma, [[42875/42768]] (S34⋅S35<sup>2</sup>), suggests tempering out [[595/594]] (S34⋅S35), [[1156/1155]] (S34), and [[1225/1224]] (S35), which coincides with above. Finally, we can map [[23/20]] to the fourth complement of 22/19 to make an equidistant sequence consisting of 7/6, 22/19, 23/20, and 8/7, tempering out [[760/759]]. [[311edo]] remains an excellent tuning in all the limits.  
Since the syntonic comma has been split in two, it is natural to map [[19/17]] to the mean of [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], tempering out [[1445/1444]], while the other 11-limit comma, [[42875/42768]] (S34⋅S35<sup>2</sup>), suggests tempering out [[595/594]] (S34⋅S35), [[1156/1155]] (S34), and [[1225/1224]] (S35), which coincides with above. Finally, we can map [[23/20]] to the fourth complement of 22/19 to make an equidistant sequence consisting of 7/6, 22/19, 23/20, and 8/7, tempering out [[760/759]]. These extensions add little additional error, and [[311edo]] remains an excellent tuning in all cases.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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: error map: {{val| 0.0000 +0.228 -0.422 -0.604 +0.107 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.0000 +0.228 -0.422 -0.604 +0.107 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 94, 99e, 118, 193, 212, 311, 740, 1051d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, …, 75e, 94, 99e, 118, 193, 212, 311, 740, 1051d }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.45
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.45
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[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 9/8, 9/7, 7/6, 5/4, 6/5, 10/9, 11/9, 8/7, 12/11, 11/10, 14/11, 11/8, 7/5
[[Complexity spectrum]]: 4/3, 9/8, 9/7, 7/6, 5/4, 6/5, 10/9, 11/9, 8/7, 12/11, 11/10, 14/11, 11/8, 7/5


=== 13-limit ===
=== 2.3.5.7.11.17 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.17
 
Comma list: 2080/2079, 19712/19683, 42875/42768
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -13 | 0 1 2 2 7 10 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 4 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0501{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2100{{c}}, ~81/70 = 254.6345{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1889{{c}}, ~81/70 = 254.6222{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 94, 118f, 193f, 212, 217, 311, 740, 1051d }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 2.39
 
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Comma list: 595/594, 833/832, 1156/1155, 19712/19683
Comma list: 595/594, 1156/1155, 19712/19683


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -13 -5 | 0 1 2 2 7 10 6 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 4 -2 }}
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -5 | 0 1 2 2 7 6 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 -2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0630{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2317{{c}}, ~51/44 = 254.6224{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0485{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2481{{c}}, ~51/44 = 254.6343{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2055{{c}}, ~51/44 = 254.6066{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2325{{c}}, ~51/44 = 254.6253{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 94, 118f, 193f, 212g, 217, 311, 740g, 1051dg }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, …, 75e, 94, 99e, 118, 193, 212g, 217, 311, 1051dg }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.41
Badness (Sintel): 1.01


=== 19-limit ===
=== 2.3.5.7.11.17.19 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.17.19


Comma list: 595/594, 833/832, 969/968, 1156/1155, 1216/1215
Comma list: 595/594, 969/968, 1156/1155, 1216/1215


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -13 -5 -6 | 0 1 2 2 7 10 6 7 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 4 -2 -4 }}
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -5 -6 | 0 1 2 2 7 6 7 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 -2 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0624{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2377{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6139{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0444{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2569{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6305{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2117{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.5983{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2421{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6224{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 94, 118f, 193f, 212gh, 217, 311, 740g, 1051dgh }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, …, 75e, 94, 99e, 118, 193, 217, 311, 1051dgh }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.03
Badness (Sintel): 0.641


=== 23-limit ===
=== 2.3.5.7.11.17.19.23 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.17.19.23


Comma list: 595/594, 760/759, 833/832, 875/874, 969/968, 1156/1155
Comma list: 595/594, 760/759, 875/874, 969/968, 1156/1155


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -13 -5 -6 4 | 0 1 2 2 7 10 6 7 1 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 4 -2 -4 -5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -7 -5 -6 4 | 0 1 2 2 7 6 7 1 | 0 0 -4 3 -3 -2 -4 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0004{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2361{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6225{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9778{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2794{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6572{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2359{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6223{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2883{{c}}, ~22/19 = 254.6625{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 94, 193f, 212gh, 217, 311 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 75e, 94, 99e, 118, 193, 217, 311 }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.09
Badness (Sintel): 0.703


== Canta ==
== Canta ==