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This is a collection of [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out]] the ragisma, [[4375/4374]] ({{monzo| -1 -7 4 1 }}). The ragisma is the smallest [[7-limit]] [[superparticular ratio]].  
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The ragisma is 4375/4374, the smallest 7-limit superparticular ratio. Since (10/9)^4 = 4375/4374 * 32/21, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low complexity in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at microtemperaments the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have 7/6 = 4375/4374 * (27/25)^2, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low cmplexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.


==Ennealimmal==
Since {{nowrap|(10/9)<sup>4</sup> {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(32/21) }}, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low [[complexity]] in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at [[microtemperament]]s the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have {{nowrap| 7/6 {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(27/25)<sup>2</sup> }}, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.
Ennealimmal temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the ennealimma comma, |1 -27 18&gt;, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two periods equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit. Its wedgie is &lt;&lt;18 27 18 1 -22 -34||.


Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.  
Microtemperaments considered below, sorted by [[badness]], are supermajor, enneadecal, semidimi, brahmagupta, abigail, gamera, crazy, orga, seniority, monzismic, semidimfourth, acrokleismic, quasithird, deca, keenanose, aluminium, ragitritonic, quatracot, moulin, and palladium. Some near-microtemperaments are appended as octoid, parakleismic, counterkleismic, quincy, sfourth, and trideci. Discussed elsewhere are:
* ''[[Hystrix]]'' (+36/35) → [[Porcupine family #Hystrix|Porcupine family]]
* ''[[Rhinoceros]]'' (+49/48) → [[Unicorn family #Rhinoceros|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Crepuscular]]'' (+50/49) → [[Fifive family #Crepuscular|Fifive family]]
* [[Modus]] (+64/63) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]]
* [[Flattone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Flattone|Meantone family]]
* [[Sensi]] (+126/125 or 245/243) → [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]]
* [[Catakleismic]] (+225/224) → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]]
* [[Unidec]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Unidec|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Quartonic]]'' (+1728/1715 or 4000/3969) → [[Quartonic family]]
* ''[[Srutal]]'' (+2048/2025) → [[Diaschismic family #Srutal|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Ennealimmal]] (+2401/2400) → [[Septiennealimmal clan #Ennealimmal|Septiennealimmal clan]]
* ''[[Maja]]'' (+2430/2401 or 3125/3087) → [[Maja family #Septimal maja|Maja family]]
* [[Amity]] (+5120/5103) → [[Amity family #Septimal amity|Amity family]]
* [[Pontiac]] (+32805/32768) → [[Schismatic family #Pontiac|Schismatic family]]
* ''[[Zarvo]]'' (+33075/32768) → [[Gravity family #Zarvo|Gravity family]]
* ''[[Whirrschmidt]]'' (+393216/390625) → [[Würschmidt family #Whirrschmidt|Würschmidt family]]
* ''[[Mitonic]]'' (+2100875/2097152) → [[Minortonic family #Mitonic|Minortonic family]]
* ''[[Vishnu]]'' (+29360128/29296875) → [[Vishnuzmic family #Septimal vishnu|Vishnuzmic family]]
* ''[[Vulture]]'' (+33554432/33480783) → [[Vulture family #Septimal vulture|Vulture family]]
* ''[[Alphatrillium]]'' (+{{monzo| 40 -22 -1 -1 }}) → [[Alphatricot family #Trillium|Alphatricot family]]
* ''[[Vacuum]]'' (+{{monzo| -68 18 17 }}) → [[Vavoom family #Vacuum|Vavoom family]]
* ''[[Unlit]]'' (+{{monzo| 41 -20 -4 }}) → [[Undim family #Unlit|Undim family]]
* ''[[Chlorine]]'' (+{{monzo| -52 -17 34}}) → [[17th-octave temperaments #Chlorine|17th-octave temperaments]]
* ''[[Quindro]]'' (+{{monzo| 56 -28 -5 }}) → [[Quindromeda family #Quindro|Quindromeda family]]
* ''[[Dzelic]]'' (+{{monzo|-223 47 -11 62}}) → [[37th-octave temperaments #Dzelic|37th-octave temperaments]]


If 1/9 of an octave is too small of a period for you, you could try generator-period pairs of [3, 5], [5/3, 3], [6/5, 4/3], [4/3, 8/5] or [10/9, 4/3] (for example.) In particular, people fond of the idea of "tritaves" as analogous to octaves might consider the 28 or 43 note MOS with generator an approximate 5/3 within 3; for instance as given by 451/970 of a "tritave". Tetrads have a low enough complexity that (for example) there are nine 1-3/2-7/4-5/2 tetrads in the 28 notes to the tritave MOS, which is equivalent in average step size to a 17 2/3 to the octave MOS.  
== Supermajor ==
The generator for supermajor temperament is a supermajor third, [[9/7]], tuned about 0.002 cents flat. Note that in the data that follow, the generator is given as its [[octave complement]]. 37 of these give 3/2<sup>22</sup>, 46 give 5/2<sup>27</sup>, and 75 give 7/2<sup>45</sup>. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: [[1106edo]] or [[1277edo]] can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater than that of [[ennealimmal]]. The 80-note generator chain is presumably the place to start, and if that is not enough notes for you, there is always the 171-note generator chain.


==Supermajor==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
The generator for supermajor temperament is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of &lt;&lt;37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater than that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.


==Enneadecal==
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 52734375/52706752
Enndedecal temperament tempers out the enneadeca, |-14 -19 19&gt;, and as a consequence has a period of 1/19 octave. This is because the enneadeca is the amount by which nineteen just minor thirds fall short of an octave. If to this we add 4375/4374 we get the 7-limit temperament we are considering here, but note should be taken of the fact that it makes for a reasonable 5-limit microtemperament also, where the generator can be 25/24, 27/25, 10/9, 5/4 or 3/2. To this we may add possible 7-limit generators such as 225/224, 15/14 or 9/7. Since enneadecal tempers out 703125/702464, the amount by which 81/80 falls short of three stacked 225/224, we can equate the 225/224 generator with (81/80)^(1/3). This is the interval needed to adjust the 1/3 comma meantone flat fifths and major thirds of [[19edo]] up to just ones. [[171edo]] is a good tuning for either the 5 or 7 limits, and [[494edo]] shows how to extend the temperament to the 11 or 13 limit, where it is accurate but very complex. Fans of near-perfect fifths may want to use [[665edo]] for a tuning.


==Mitonic==
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -22 -27 -45 | 0 37 46 75 }}
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic is a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.
: mapping generators: ~2, ~14/9


However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. The wedgie is now &lt;&lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0067{{c}}, ~14/9 = 764.9222{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.007 +0.019 -0.074 +0.037 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 764.9181{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.013 -0.083 +0.029 }}


==Abigail==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 80, 171, 764, 935, 1106, 1277, 3660, 4937, 6214 }}
Commas: 4375/4374, 2147483648/2144153025


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 208.899
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.274


Map: [&lt;2 7 13 -1|, &lt;0 -11 -24 19|]
=== Semisupermajor ===
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;22 48 -38 25 -122 -223||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
EDOs: 46, 132, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1034, 1798
Badness: 0.0370


===11-limit===
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 35156250/35153041
Comma: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 20614528/20588575


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 208.901
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 -7 -8 -15 -6 | 0 37 46 75 47 }}
: mapping generators: ~99/70, ~11/10


Map: [&lt;2 7 13 -1 1|, &lt;0 -11 -24 19 17|]
Optimal tunings:  
EDOs: 46, 132, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.0103{{c}}, ~11/10 = 164.9205{{c}}
Badness: 0.0129
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 164.9180{{c}}


===13-limit===
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 80, 262d, 342, 764, 1106, 1448, 2554, 4002e, 6556cee }}
Commas: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 3025/3024, 4096/4095


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 208.903
Badness (Sintel): 0.422


Map: [&lt;2 7 13 -1 1 -2|, &lt;0 -11 -24 19 17 27|]
== Enneadecal ==
EDOs: 46, 178, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1258
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Enneadecal (5-limit)]].''
Badness: 0.00886


=Nearly Micro=
Enneadecal tempers out the [[enneadeca]], {{monzo| -14 -19 19 }}, and as a consequence has a period of 1/19 octave. This is because the enneadeca is the amount by which nineteen [[6/5|just minor thirds]] fall short of an octave. If to this we add 4375/4374 we get the 7-limit temperament we are considering here, but note should be taken of the fact that it makes for a reasonable 5-limit microtemperament also, where the generator can be ~25/24, ~27/25, ~10/9, ~5/4 or ~3/2. To this we may add possible 7-limit generators such as ~225/224, ~15/14 or ~9/7. Since enneadecal tempers out [[703125/702464]], the amount by which 81/80 falls short of three stacked 225/224, we can equate the 225/224 generator with (81/80)<sup>1/3</sup>. This is the interval needed to adjust the 1/3-comma meantone flat fifths and major thirds of [[19edo]] up to just ones.


==Amity==
[[171edo]] is a good tuning for either the 5- or 7-limit, and [[494edo]] shows how to extend the temperament to the 11- or 13-limit, where it is accurate but very complex. Fans of near-perfect fifths may want to use [[665edo]] for a tuning.
The generator for amity temperament is the acute minor third, which means an ordinary 6/5 minor third raised by an 81/80 comma to 243/200, and from this it derives its name. Aside from the ragisma it tempers out the 5-limit amity comma, 1600000/1594323, 5120/5103 and 6144/6125. It can also be described as the 46&amp;53 temperament, or by its wedgie, &lt;&lt;5 13 -17 9 -41 -76||. [[99edo]] is a good tuning for amity, with generator 28/99, and MOS of 11, 18, 25, 32, 46 or 53 notes are available. If you are looking for a different kind of neutral third this could be the temperament for you.


In the 5-limit amity is a genuine microtemperament, with 58/205 being a possible tuning. Another good choice is (64/5)^(1/13), which gives pure major thirds.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


==Parakleismic==
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 703125/702464
In the 5-limit, parakleismic is an undoubted microtemperament, tempering out the parakleisma, |8 14 -13&gt;, with the [[118edo]] tuning giving errors well under a cent. It has a generator a very slightly (half a cent or less
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 19 0 14 -37 | 0 1 1 3 }}
: mapping generators: ~28/27, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~28/27 = 63.1599{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9027{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.1437{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.038 -0.014 -0.134 +0.080 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~28/27 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9002{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.1634{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.055 -0.203 +0.033 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 152, 171, 665, 836, 1007, 2185, 3192c }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.277
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 540/539, 4375/4374, 16384/16335
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 19 0 14 -37 126 | 0 1 1 3 -2 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~28/27 = 63.1431{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1956{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.6216{{c}})
* CWE: ~28/27 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.3164{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.5795{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 133d, 152, 323e, 475de, 627de }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.45
 
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 540/539, 625/624, 729/728, 2205/2197
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 19 0 14 -37 126 -20 | 0 1 1 3 -2 3 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~28/27 = 63.1406{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0192{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.4730{{c}})
* CWE: ~28/27 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.1539{{c}} (~225/224 = 7.4171{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 133df, 152f, 323ef }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.39
 
=== Hemienneadecal ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 234375/234256
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 38 0 28 -74 11 | 0 1 1 3 2 }}
: mapping generators: ~55/54, ~3
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/54 = 31.5800{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9053{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.1448{{c}})
* CWE: ~55/54 = 31.5789{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9034{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.1666{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 152, 342, 836, 1178, 2014, 3192ce, 5206ce }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.330
 
==== Hemienneadecalis ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 3025/3024, 234375/234256
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 38 0 28 -74 11 -281 | 0 1 1 3 2 7 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/54 = 31.5785{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9995{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.2727{{c}})
* CWE: ~55/54 = 31.5789{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.0053{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.2685{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 152f, 342f, 494 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.859
 
==== Hemienneadec ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374, 31250/31213
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 38 0 28 -74 11 502 | 0 1 1 3 2 -6 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/54 = 31.5784{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9736{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.2493{{c}})
* CWE: ~55/54 = 31.5789{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9855{{c}} (~243/242 = 7.2487{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 152, 342, 494, 1330, 1824, 2318d }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.26
 
==== Semihemienneadecal ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 78125/78078
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 38 1 29 -71 13 111 | 0 2 2 6 4 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~55/54, ~429/250
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/54 = 31.5799{{c}}, ~429/250 = 935.1824{{c}} (~144/143 = 12.2152{{c}})
* CWE: ~55/54 = 31.5789{{c}}, ~429/250 = 935.1617{{c}} (~144/143 = 12.2067{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 190, 304d, 494, 684, 1178, 2850, 4028ce }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.607
 
=== Kalium ===
Named after the 19th element, potassium, and after an archaic variant of the element's name to resolve a name conflict. [[19/16]] can be used as a generator. Since it is enfactored in the 17-limit and lower, it makes no sense to name it for the lower subgroups.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
 
Comma list: 2500/2499, 3250/3249, 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 11016/11011, 57375/57344
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 19 3 17 -28 82 92 159 78 | 0 10 10 30 -6 -8 -30 1 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~28/27 = 63.1582{{c}}, ~6545/5928 = 171.2448{{c}}
* CWE: ~28/27 = 63.1579{{c}}, ~6545/5928 = 171.2439{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 855, 988, 1843 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 3.15
 
== Semidimi ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Semidimi]].''
 
The generator of semidimi is a semi-diminished fourth interval tuned between 162/125 and 35/27. It tempers out 5-limit {{monzo| -12 -73 55 }} and 7-limit 3955078125/3954653486, as well
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