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{{Technical data page}}
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This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out|tempers out]] the porwell comma, {{monzo| 11 1 -3 -2 }} ([[6144/6125]]).  
This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out|temper out]] the [[porwell comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 11 1 -3 -2 }}, [[ratio]]: [[6144/6125]]).  


Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
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* [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|Porcupine family]]
* [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|Porcupine family]]
* ''[[Alphatrident]]'' (+14348907/14336000) → [[Alphatricot family #Alphatrident|Alphatricot family]]
* ''[[Alphatrident]]'' (+14348907/14336000) → [[Alphatricot family #Alphatrident|Alphatricot family]]
* [[Shrutar]] (+245/243) → [[Diaschismic family #Shrutar|Diaschismic family]]
* ''[[Shrutar]]'' (+245/243) → [[Diaschismic family #Shrutar|Diaschismic family]]
* [[Amity]] (+4375/4374 or 5120/5103) → [[Amity family #Septimal amity|Amity family]]
* [[Amity]] (+4375/4374 or 5120/5103) → [[Amity family #Septimal amity|Amity family]]
* [[Orwell]] (+225/224) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]]
* [[Orwell]] (+225/224) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]]
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* ''[[Septisuperfourth]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Escapade family #Septisuperfourth|Escapade family]]
* ''[[Septisuperfourth]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Escapade family #Septisuperfourth|Escapade family]]
* ''[[Hemimabila]]'' (+117649/116640) → [[Mabila family #Hemimabila|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Hemimabila]]'' (+117649/116640) → [[Mabila family #Hemimabila|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Grendel]]'' (+16875/16807) → [[Mirkwai clan #Grendel|Mirkwai clan]]
* ''[[Countermiracle]]'' (+823543/819200) → [[Quince clan #Countermiracle|Quince clan]]
* ''[[Countermiracle]]'' (+823543/819200) → [[Quince clan #Countermiracle|Quince clan]]
* ''[[Hemimaquila]]'' (+{{monzo| -5 10 5 -8 }}) → [[Maquila family #Hemimaquila|Maquila family]]
* ''[[Hemimaquila]]'' (+{{monzo| -5 10 5 -8 }}) → [[Maquila family #Hemimaquila|Maquila family]]


Considered below are hendecatonic, nessafof, twothirdtonic, aufo, absurdity, polypyth, whoops, dodifo, and icositritonic, in the order of increasing [[badness]].  
Considered below are hendecatonic, nessafof, grendel, twothirdtonic, aufo, absurdity, polypyth, whoops, dodifo, and icositritonic, in the order of increasing [[badness]].  


== Hendecatonic ==
== Hendecatonic ==
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.04
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.04


=== 11-limit ===
=== Hendecaton ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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Badness (Sintel): 2.26
Badness (Sintel): 2.26
== Grendel ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Counterwürschmidt]].''
Grendel tempers out 16875/16807, the [[mirkwai comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 152 }} temperament. [[152edo]], [[183edo]] and especially [[335edo]] serve as good tunings.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 6144/6125, 16875/16807
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -14 3 -6 | 0 23 -1 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~8/5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7348{{c}}, ~8/5 = 812.9574{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.265 -0.220 -0.067 +1.212 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 813.1311{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.059 +0.555 +1.878 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 31, 90, 121, 152, 335d, 822dd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.31
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 540/539, 1375/1372, 5632/5625
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 | 0 23 -1 13 42 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7355{{c}}, ~8/5 = 812.9622{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 813.1353{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 90e, 121, 152, 335d, 487d }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.656
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 352/351, 540/539, 625/624, 1375/1372
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4412{{c}}, ~8/5 = 812.7956{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 813.1209{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 90e, 121, 152f, 273def, 425deff }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.03
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 625/624, 715/714, 1275/1274
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 19 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 -22 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3029{{c}}, ~8/5 = 812.7156{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 813.1843{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 90e, 121, 152fg, 273defgg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.09
=== 19-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 375/374, 400/399, 456/455, 715/714
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 19 30 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 -22 -38 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3587{{c}}, ~8/5 = 812.7462{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 813.1796{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 90e, 121, 152fg, 273defgg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.12


== Twothirdtonic ==
== Twothirdtonic ==
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== Semaja ==
== Semaja ==
Cryptically named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, semaja adds the [[gariboh comma]] to the comma list, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 37 & 53 }} temperament. Its [[ploidacot]] is gamma-19-cot. The name actually refers to the fact that two of its ~[[8/7]] generator steps reach a ~[[13/10]]<ref name="petr's long post">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101780.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Suggested names for the unclasified temperaments'']</ref>.  
{{See also| Llywelynsmic clan }}
 
Cryptically named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, semaja adds the [[gariboh comma]] to the comma list, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 37 & 53 }} temperament. Its [[ploidacot]] is gamma-19-cot (or alpha-heptaseph due to a much simpler [[2.5.7 subgroup|2.5.7-subgroup]] [[restriction]]). The name actually refers to the fact that two of its ~[[8/7]] generator steps reach a ~[[13/10]]<ref name="petr's long post">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101780.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Suggested names for the unclasified temperaments'']</ref>.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Leapday]].''  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Leapday]].''  


Polypyth (46 & 121) tempers out the same 5-limit comma as the [[leapday]] temperament (29 & 46), but with the porwell (6144/6125) rather than the hemifamity (5120/5103) tempered out.
Polypyth tempers out the same 5-limit comma as [[leapday]], with which it shares the similarly sharp [[3/2|perfect-fifth]] generator, but the porwell comma (6144/6125) rather than the hemifamity comma (5120/5103) is tempered out here. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 46 & 121 }} temperament, and [[121edo]] and [[167edo]] make for good tunings.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Whoosh]].''  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Whoosh]].''  


Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, ''whoops'' is a relatively simple extension to the otherwise very accurate microtemperament known as ''whoosh''<ref name="petr's long post"/>.  
Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, whoops is a relatively simple extension to the otherwise very accurate microtemperament known as ''whoosh''<ref name="petr's long post"/>.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{See also| 23rd-octave temperaments }}
{{See also| 23rd-octave temperaments }}


The icositritonic temperament (46 & 161) has a period of 1/23 octave, so six period represents [[6/5]] and nine period represents [[21/16]].
Icositritonic has a period of 1/23 octave, so six period represents [[6/5]] and nine period represents [[21/16]]. It may be described as {{nowrap| 46 & 161 }}. It was named by [[Xenllium]] in 2019 for its number of periods per octave.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7