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Decanonicalize tridecimal marvel
 
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The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
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* ''[[Marvelpine]]'' (+4000/3993) → [[Wizardharry clan #Marvelpine|Wizardharry clan]]
* ''[[Marvelpine]]'' (+4000/3993) → [[Wizardharry clan #Marvelpine|Wizardharry clan]]
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic rank-3 family #Catakleismoid|Kleismic rank-3 family]]


== Undecimal marvel ==
== Undecimal marvel ==
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Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.
Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.


In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as ([[351/350]])⋅([[625/624]]) or ([[325/324]])⋅([[729/728]]). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to tridecimal marvel, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of [[catakleismic]].  
In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as ([[351/350]])⋅([[625/624]]) or ([[325/324]])⋅([[729/728]]). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of [[catakleismic]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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=== 13-limit ===
=== Helios ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
== Catakleismoid ==
Catakleismoid is the same as catakleismic in the 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup but with an independent generator for prime 11.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 4375/4374
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 -3 0 | 0 6 5 22 0 | 0 0 0 0 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5, ~11
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5965{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8893{{c}}, ~11/8 = 549.5258{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.596 -0.619 -1.271 +0.948 -0.003 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7705{{c}}, ~11/8 = 550.0343{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.332 -2.461 +0.126 -1.284 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.53
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 325/324
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 -3 0 0 | 0 6 5 22 0 14 | 0 0 0 0 1 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8238{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9478{{c}}, ~11/8 = 548.9611{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7939{{c}}, ~11/8 = 549.5903{{c}}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.853


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==