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The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
The '''marvel family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[7-limit]] [[marvel comma]] ([[ratio]]: [[225/224]], {{monzo|legend=1| -5 2 2 -1 }}), also known as ''septimal kleisma''. These temperaments hence equate [[16/15]] and [[15/14]], or equivalently they equate two [[5/4]]'s and one [[14/9]]. The marvel comma is noteworthy in that it is tempered out by many common [[equal temperament|equal]] and [[rank-2 temperament]]s.
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* ''[[Artemis]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Artemis|Biyatismic clan]]
* ''[[Artemis]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Artemis|Biyatismic clan]]
* ''[[Spectacle]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Spectacle]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Marvelpine]]'' (+4000/3993) → [[Wizardharry clan #Marvelpine|Wizardharry clan]]
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Mirage]]'' (+243/242, +385/384) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Spectacle|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Catakleismoid]]'' (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic rank-3 family #Catakleismoid|Kleismic rank-3 family]]


== Undecimal marvel ==
== Undecimal marvel ==
{{Main| Marvel }}
{{Main| Marvel }}


Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.  
Undecimal marvel tempers out [[385/384]] as well as [[540/539]], and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[wizard]]. This extension is natural because of the factorization 225/224 = (385/384)⋅(540/539). [[197edo]] remains useful as a tuning, with the 197e val, but [[166edo]], which among other things has a virtually pure 7, works as well.
 
In the 13-limit, 225/224 factors as ([[351/350]])⋅([[625/624]]) or ([[325/324]])⋅([[729/728]]). Tempering out 351/350 and 625/624 leads to helios, tempering out 325/324 and 729/728 leads to hecate. Tempering out all of them leads to the 13-limit version of [[catakleismic]].  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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=== 13-limit ===
=== Helios ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -5 12 17 | 0 1 0 2 -1 -4 | 0 0 1 2 -3 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Apollo tempers out not only [[100/99]] but [[896/891]]. Note that marvel tempers together [[25/24]] and [[28/27]], and apollo further equates it with [[33/32]] via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of [[parapyth]], and [[associated temperament|associates]] it with [[magic]]. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of [[ares]], from which apollo only differs in the mapping of [[prime interval|prime]] [[7/1|7]].  
Apollo tempers out not only [[100/99]] but [[896/891]]. Note that marvel tempers together [[25/24]] and [[28/27]], and apollo further equates it with [[33/32]] via the vanishing of 100/99. This makes it a weak extension of [[parapyth]], and [[associated temperament|associates]] it with [[magic]]. The lattice structure is very compact, comparable to that of [[ares]], from which apollo only differs in the mapping of [[prime interval|prime]] [[7/1|7]].  


The canonical [[13-limit]] extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out [[352/351]] and [[364/363]], but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out [[105/104]] and finds ~[[13/8]] as a stack of three [[secor]]s. Musagetes tempers out [[144/143]] and conflates 16/13 and [[11/9]], which in this case is simply a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s. These extensions are [[support]]ed by 13-limit [[magic]], unlike the canonical one.  
The canonical [[13-limit]] extension is implied by parapyth, tempering out [[352/351]] and [[364/363]], but there are a number of other extenions to consider, these being called phoebus and musagetes, after epithets of Apollo. Phoebus tempers out [[105/104]] and finds ~[[16/13]] as a stack of three [[secor]]s. Musagetes tempers out [[144/143]] and conflates 16/13 and [[11/9]], which in this case is simply a stack of two ~[[10/9]]'s. These extensions are [[support]]ed by 13-limit [[magic]], unlike the canonical one.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
== Catakleismoid ==
Catakleismoid is the same as catakleismic in the 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup but with an independent generator for prime 11.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 4375/4374
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 -3 0 | 0 6 5 22 0 | 0 0 0 0 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5, ~11
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.5965{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8893{{c}}, ~11/8 = 549.5258{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.596 -0.619 -1.271 +0.948 -0.003 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7705{{c}}, ~11/8 = 550.0343{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.332 -2.461 +0.126 -1.284 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 197e, 269ce, 341ce }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.53
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 325/324
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 -3 0 0 | 0 6 5 22 0 14 | 0 0 0 0 1 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8238{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9478{{c}}, ~11/8 = 548.9611{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7939{{c}}, ~11/8 = 549.5903{{c}}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 125f, 197ef }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.853


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==