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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
Since {{nowrap|60 {{=}} 5 | Since {{nowrap| 60 {{=}} 5 × 12 }}, 60edo belongs to the family of edos which contain [[12edo]], and like the other small edos of this kind, it [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[Pythagorean comma]], 531441/524288 ({{monzo| -19 12 }}). In the [[5-limit]], it tempers out both the [[magic comma]], 3125/3072, and the [[amity comma]], 1600000/1594323, and supplies the [[optimal patent val]] for 5-limit [[magic]]. In the [[7-limit]] it tempers out [[225/224]], [[245/243]], [[875/864]], and [[10976/10935]], and [[support]]s [[magic]], [[compton]] and [[tritonic]] temperaments. In the [[11-limit]], the 60e [[val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''207''' }} scores lower in [[badness]] than the [[patent val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''208''' }} and makes for an excellent tritonic tuning. It tempers out [[121/120]] and [[441/440]], whereas the patent val tempers out [[100/99]], [[385/384]] and [[540/539]]. The tuning of 13 is superb at half a cent flat, and the 60e val also works excellently for [[13-limit]] tritonic. As a no-fives [[subgroup temperament]], it is also excellent for the 2.3.7.11.13-subgroup [[bleu]] temperament, using the 60d val. | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
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| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 1/1 | | [[1/1]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 81/80, ''49/48'' | | [[81/80]], ''[[49/48]]'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 50/49, ''64/63'' | | [[50/49]], ''[[64/63]]'' | ||
| ''33/32'' | | ''[[33/32]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 60 | | 60 | ||
| ''25/24'', 28/27, ''36/35'' | | ''[[25/24]]'', [[28/27]], ''[[36/35]]'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 80 | | 80 | ||
| 21/20 | | [[21/20]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 100 | | 100 | ||
| 17/16, 18/17 | | [[17/16]], [[18/17]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 120 | | 120 | ||
| 16/15, 15/14, 14/13 | | [[16/15]], [[15/14]], [[14/13]] | ||
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| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 140 | | 140 | ||
| 13/12 | | [[13/12]] | ||
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| 160 | | 160 | ||
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| 12/11, 11/10 | | [[12/11]], [[11/10]] | ||
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| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 180 | | 180 | ||
| 10/9 | | [[10/9]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 200 | | 200 | ||
| 9/8 | | [[9/8]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 220 | | 220 | ||
| 17/15 | | [[17/15]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 240 | | 240 | ||
| 8/7, 15/13 | | [[8/7]], [[15/13]] | ||
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| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 260 | | 260 | ||
| 7/6 | | [[7/6]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 280 | | 280 | ||
| 20/17 | | [[20/17]] | ||
| | | [[33/28]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 300 | | 300 | ||
| 32/27 | | [[32/27]] | ||
| | | ''[[13/11]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 320 | | 320 | ||
| 6/5 | | [[6/5]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 340 | | 340 | ||
| 39/32, 17/14 | | [[39/32]], [[17/14]] | ||
| 11/9 | | [[11/9]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 360 | | 360 | ||
| 16/13, 21/17 | | [[16/13]], [[21/17]] | ||
| 27/22 | | [[27/22]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 380 | | 380 | ||
| 5/4 | | [[5/4]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 400 | | 400 | ||
| 81/64 | | [[81/64]] | ||
| | | ''[[33/26]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 420 | | 420 | ||
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| 14/11 | | [[14/11]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 440 | | 440 | ||
| 9/7 | | [[9/7]] | ||
| 22/17 | | [[22/17]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 460 | | 460 | ||
| ''21/16'', 13/10, 17/13 | | ''[[21/16]]'', [[13/10]], [[17/13]] | ||
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| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 500 | | 500 | ||
| 4/3 | | [[4/3]] | ||
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| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 520 | | 520 | ||
| 27/20 | | [[27/20]] | ||
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| 540 | | 540 | ||
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| ''11/8'', 15/11 | | ''[[11/8]]'', [[15/11]] | ||
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| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 560 | | 560 | ||
| 18/13 | | [[18/13]] | ||
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| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 580 | | 580 | ||
| 7/5 | | [[7/5]] | ||
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| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 600 | | 600 | ||
| 17/12, 24/17 | | [[17/12]], [[24/17]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 620 | | 620 | ||
| 10/7 | | [[10/7]] | ||
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| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 640 | | 640 | ||
| 13/9 | | [[13/9]] | ||
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| 660 | | 660 | ||
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| ''16/11'', 22/15 | | ''[[16/11]]'', [[22/15]] | ||
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| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 680 | | 680 | ||
| 40/27 | | [[40/27]] | ||
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| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 700 | | 700 | ||
| 3/2 | | [[3/2]] | ||
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| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 740 | | 740 | ||
| ''32/21'', 20/13, 26/17 | | ''[[32/21]]'', [[20/13]], [[26/17]] | ||
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| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 760 | | 760 | ||
| 14/9 | | [[14/9]] | ||
| 17/11 | | [[17/11]] | ||
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| 39 | | 39 | ||
| 780 | | 780 | ||
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| | | [[11/7]] | ||
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| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 800 | | 800 | ||
| 128/81 | | [[128/81]] | ||
| | | ''[[52/33]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 41 | | 41 | ||
| 820 | | 820 | ||
| 8/5 | | [[8/5]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 42 | | 42 | ||
| 840 | | 840 | ||
| 13/8, 34/21 | | [[13/8]], [[34/21]] | ||
| 44/27 | | [[44/27]] | ||
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| 43 | | 43 | ||
| 860 | | 860 | ||
| 64/39, 28/17 | | [[64/39]], [[28/17]] | ||
| 18/11 | | [[18/11]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 44 | | 44 | ||
| 880 | | 880 | ||
| 5/3 | | [[5/3]] | ||
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| 45 | | 45 | ||
| 900 | | 900 | ||
| 27/16 | | [[27/16]] | ||
| | | ''[[22/13]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 46 | | 46 | ||
| 920 | | 920 | ||
| 17/10 | | [[17/10]] | ||
| | | [[56/33]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 47 | | 47 | ||
| 940 | | 940 | ||
| 12/7 | | [[12/7]] | ||
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| 48 | | 48 | ||
| 960 | | 960 | ||
| 7/4, 26/15 | | [[7/4]], [[26/15]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 49 | | 49 | ||
| 980 | | 980 | ||
| 30/17 | | [[30/17]] | ||
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| 50 | | 50 | ||
| 1000 | | 1000 | ||
| 16/9 | | [[16/9]] | ||
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| 51 | | 51 | ||
| 1020 | | 1020 | ||
| 9/5 | | [[9/5]] | ||
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| 1040 | | 1040 | ||
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| 11/6, 20/11 | | [[11/6]], [[20/11]] | ||
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| 53 | | 53 | ||
| 1060 | | 1060 | ||
| 24/13 | | [[24/13]] | ||
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| 54 | | 54 | ||
| 1080 | | 1080 | ||
| 15/8, 28/15, 13/7 | | [[15/8]], [[28/15]], [[13/7]] | ||
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| 55 | | 55 | ||
| 1100 | | 1100 | ||
| 17/9, 32/17 | | [[17/9]], [[32/17]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 56 | | 56 | ||
| 1120 | | 1120 | ||
| 40/21 | | [[40/21]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 57 | | 57 | ||
| 1140 | | 1140 | ||
| ''48/25'', 27/14, ''35/18'' | | ''[[48/25]]'', [[27/14]], ''[[35/18]]'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 58 | | 58 | ||
| 1160 | | 1160 | ||
| 49/25, ''63/32'' | | [[49/25]], ''[[63/32]]'' | ||
| ''64/33'' | | ''[[64/33]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 59 | | 59 | ||
| 1180 | | 1180 | ||
| 160/81, ''96/49'' | | [[160/81]], ''[[96/49]]'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 60 | | 60 | ||
| 1200 | | 1200 | ||
| 2/1 | | [[2/1]] | ||
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|} | |} | ||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== | === Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation === | ||
[[Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation]] uses sharps and flats with arrows: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp5-szg|60}} | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp5|60}} | |||
=== Kite's ups and downs notation === | |||
60edo can also be notated with [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Kite's ups and downs]], spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down). | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp5a}} | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | === Sagittal notation === | ||
This notation is a superset of the notations for | This notation is a superset of the notations for edos [[12edo #Sagittal notation|12]] and [[6edo #Sagittal notation|6]]. | ||
==== Evo flavor ==== | ==== Evo flavor ==== | ||
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== Approximation to JI == | == Approximation to JI == | ||
=== | === Interval mappings === | ||
{ | {{Q-odd-limit intervals|60}} | ||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|59.9|apx=val|header=none|tag=none|title=15-odd-limit intervals by 60e val mapping}} | |||
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== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| 340.0 | | 340.0 | ||
| 39/32 | | 39/32 | ||
| [[Houborizic]] (60) / houbor (60e) | | [[Houborizic]] (60) / [[houbor]] (60e) | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| 380.0 | | 380.0 | ||
| 5/4 | | 5/4 | ||
| [[Magic]] (60) / witchcraft (60e) | | [[Magic]] (60) / [[Magic_extensions#Witchcraft|witchcraft]] (60e) | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| 580.0 | | 580.0 | ||
| 7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
| [[Tritonic]] (60e) / tritoni (60) | | [[Tritonic]] (60e) / [[tritoni]] (60) | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
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| 500.0<br>(20.0) | | 500.0<br>(20.0) | ||
| 4/3<br>(81/80) | | 4/3<br>(81/80) | ||
| [[ | | [[Quintile]] (60) | ||
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| 6 | | 6 | ||
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| 500.0<br>(20.0) | | 500.0<br>(20.0) | ||
| 4/3<br>(91/90) | | 4/3<br>(91/90) | ||
| [[ | | [[Decile]] (60e)<br>[[Decic]] (60) / [[splendecic]] (60e) / [[prodecic]] (60e) | ||
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| 12 | | 12 | ||
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| 380.0<br>(20.0) | | 380.0<br>(20.0) | ||
| 5/4<br>(81/80) | | 5/4<br>(81/80) | ||
| [[Compton]] / comptone (60e) | | [[Compton]] / [[comptone]] (60e) | ||
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| 12 | | 12 | ||
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| 500.0<br>(20.0) | | 500.0<br>(20.0) | ||
| 4/3<br>(126/125) | | 4/3<br>(126/125) | ||
| [[Pentadecal]] (60) / quindecal (60e) | | [[Pentadecal]] (60) / [[Cloudy_clan#Quindeca|quindecal]] (60e) | ||
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| 20 | | 20 | ||
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| [[Degrees]] (60e) | | [[Degrees]] (60e) | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Diagrams == | == Diagrams == | ||
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[[File:blue_60edo.png|alt=blue_60edo.png|blue_60edo.png]] | [[File:blue_60edo.png|alt=blue_60edo.png|blue_60edo.png]] | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
What follows is a comparison of compressed- and stretched-octave 60edo tunings. | |||
60edo can benefit from slightly [[stretched and compressed tuning|stretching the octave]], especially when using it as a no-11 17-limit equal temperament. With the right amount of stretch we can find better harmonics 3, 5, and 7 at the expense of somewhat less accurate approximations of 2 and 13. Tunings such as [[155ed6]], [[95edt]] or [[zpi|301zpi]] make good options for this. | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
* [[5- to 10-tone scales in 60edo]] | * [[5- to 10-tone scales in 60edo]] | ||
* Amulet{{idiosyncratic}} (approximated from [[25edo]], subset of [[magic]]): 5 2 5 5 2 5 7 5 5 2 5 7 5 | * Amulet{{idiosyncratic}} (approximated from [[25edo]], subset of [[magic]]): 5 2 5 5 2 5 7 5 5 2 5 7 5 | ||
* Approximations of [[gamelan]] scales: | |||
** 5-tone pelog: 6 8 20 5 21 | |||
** 7-tone pelog: 6 8 12 8 5 14 7 | |||
** 5-tone slendro: 12 12 12 12 12 | |||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
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* [http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3 ''Dingshi''] | * [http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3 ''Dingshi''] | ||
* ''Gene's Jitterbug'' [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg (ogg)] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Breed/jitter.mp3 (mp3)] [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter60.pdf Score] | * ''Gene's Jitterbug'' [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg (ogg)] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Breed/jitter.mp3 (mp3)] [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter60.pdf Score] | ||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nlKHUDCR3pI ''60edo improv''] (2025-05-16) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VA_P26_3dTk ''60edo improv''] (2025-11-22) | |||
; [[Robin Perry]] | ; [[Robin Perry]] | ||