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The '''compton family''', otherwise known as the '''aristoxenean family''', of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[Pythagorean comma]] ([[ratio]]: 531441/524288, {{monzo|legend=1| -19 12 }}, and hence the fifths form a closed 12-note [[circle of fifths]], identical to [[12edo]]. While the tuning of the fifth | The '''compton family''', otherwise known as the '''aristoxenean family''', of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[Pythagorean comma]] ([[ratio]]: 531441/524288, {{monzo|legend=1| -19 12 }}, and hence the fifths form a closed 12-note [[circle of fifths]], identical to [[12edo]]. While the tuning of the fifth is fixed to 7 steps of 12edo, about 2{{cent}} flat of [[just]], these temperaments aim to add tunings for higher primes which are more in tune than in 12edo. | ||
== Compton == | == Compton == | ||
{{Main| Compton }} | {{Main| Compton }} | ||
5-limit compton | 5-limit compton tempers out the Pythagorean comma and has a period of 1\12, so it is the 12edo circle of fifths with an independent dimension for the harmonic 5. Equivalent generators are [[5/4]], [[6/5]], [[10/9]], [[16/15]] (the [[secor]]), [[45/32]], [[135/128]] and most importantly, [[81/80]]. In terms of [[equal temperament]]s, compton is the {{nowrap| 12 & 72 }} temperament; its [[ploidacot]] is dodecaploid acot. [[72edo]], [[84edo]] or [[240edo]] make for good tunings. | ||
This temperament is documented as ''aristoxenean'' in [[Tonalsoft Encyclopedia]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5 | ||
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* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~256/243 = 100.0513{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.0800{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.1253{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.616 -0.980 -0.001 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~256/243 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.3590{{c}} (~81/80 = 14.6410{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 - | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -0.955 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 48, 60, 72, 84, 156, 240, 396b, 636bbc }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 48, 60, 72, 84, 156, 240, 396b, 636bbc }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.22 | ||
== Septimal compton == | == Septimal compton == | ||
{{Main| Compton }} | {{Main| Compton }} | ||
In terms of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]], septimal compton adds 413343/409600 ({{monzo| -14 10 -2 1 }}) to the Pythagorean comma; however, it can also be characterized by saying it adds [[225/224]]. Other important commas of this temperament are 250047/250000, the [[landscape comma]], which sets [[63/50]] to 1/3 of an octave, and 390625/388962, the [[dimcomp comma]], which sets [[25/21]] to 1/4 of an octave. | |||
In either the 5- or 7-limit, 240edo is an excellent tuning, with [[81/80]] coming in at 15 cents exactly. In the 12edo, the major third is sharp by 13.686 cents, and the minor third flat by 15.641 cents; adjusting these down and up by 15 cents puts them in excellent tune. | |||
Septimal compton is catalogued as ''waage'' in [[Graham Breed]]'s [https://x31eq.com/temper/ temperament finder]. | |||
In terms of the normal comma list, we may add 8019/8000 to get to the 11-limit version of compton, which also adds [[441/440]] | In terms of the normal comma list, we may add [[8019/8000]] to get to the 11-limit version of compton, which also adds [[441/440]] and has a natural extension to the 13-limit. In 13-limit compton, intervals of 5, 7, 11, and 13 are off by one, two, three, and four generators, respectively. For these, 72edo can be recommended as a tuning. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~256/243 = 100.0579{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9974{{c}} (~126/125 = 16.2342{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.695 -0.855 -0.927 +0.674 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~256/243 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.1429{{c}} (~126/125 = 15.8571{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2.171 -0.540 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, …, 60, 72, 228, 300c, 372bc, 444bc }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.903 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~35/33 = 100.0633{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5087{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.7446{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~35/33 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.5958{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.4042{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, …, 60e, 72 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.735 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~35/33 = 100.0508{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.1577{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.0454{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~35/33 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.1782{{c}} (~100/99 = 15.8218{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, …, 60eff, 72, 228f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.903 | ||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 100.0658{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0024{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.2607{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 383.9647{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.0353{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 60eff, 72 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 60eff, 72 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.873 | ||
==== Comptone ==== | ==== Comptone ==== | ||
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* | * WE: ~35/33 = 100.0926{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9660{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.4045{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~35/33 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7748{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.2252{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 60e, 72, 204cdef, 276cdeff }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 60e, 72, 204cdef, 276cdeff }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.04 | ||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 100.0941{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.9567{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.4796{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 382.7381{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.2619{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 60e, 72, 204cdefg, 276cdeffgg }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 60e, 72, 204cdefg, 276cdeffgg }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.833 | ||
== Catler == | == Catler == | ||
In terms of the normal comma list, catler is characterized by the addition of the [[ | In terms of the normal comma list, catler is characterized by the addition of the schisma, [[32805/32768]], to the Pythagorean comma, though it can also be characterized as adding [[81/80]], [[128/125]] or [[648/625]]. In any event, the 5-limit is exactly the same as the 5-limit of 12edo. Catler can also be characterized as the {{nowrap| 12 & 24 }} temperament. [[36edo]] or [[48edo]] are possible tunings. Possible generators are [[36/35]], [[21/20]], [[15/14]], [[8/7]], [[7/6]], [[9/7]], [[7/5]], and most importantly, [[64/63]]. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~16/15 = 99.8680{{c}}, ~7/4 = 971.9257{{c}} (~64/63 = 26.7545{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -1.584 -4.463 +9.991 -0.068 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 972.0971{{c}} (~64/63 = 27.9029{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 +13.686 + | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 +13.686 +3.271 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 24, 36, 48c, 84c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 24, 36, 48c, 84c }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.27 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~16/15 = 99.8542{{c}}, ~7/4 = 975.8519{{c}} (~64/63 = 22.6896{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 976.4125{{c}} (~64/63 = 23.5875{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 36e, 48c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 36e, 48c }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.92 | ||
=== Catlat === | === Catlat === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~16/15 = 99.8791{{c}}, ~7/4 = 970.9614{{c}} (~64/63 = 27.8300{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 972.2549{{c}} (~64/63 = 27.7451{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 36, 48c, 84c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 36, 48c, 84c }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.71 | ||
=== Catnip === | === Catnip === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~16/15 = 99.8519{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.7912{{c}} (~64/63 = 32.7275{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 965.8666{{c}} (~64/63 = 34.1334{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36 | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.14 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~16/15 = 99.8308{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.1391{{c}} (~40/39 = 37.1694{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.1435{{c}} (~40/39 = 38.8565{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.18 | ||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 99.8958{{c}}, ~7/4 = 959.2226{{c}} (~40/39 = 39.7354{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 959.4216{{c}} (~40/39 = 40.5784{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.18 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 99.9058{{c}}, ~7/4 = 958.9307{{c}} (~40/39 = 40.1270{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 959.2303{{c}} (~40/39 = 40.7697{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 24, 36f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.15 | ||
==== Duodecic ==== | ==== Duodecic ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 99.9301{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.6396{{c}} (~64/63 = 37.6617{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 962.1413{{c}} (~64/63 = 37.8587{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.58 | ||
===== 17-limit ===== | ===== 17-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 99.9556{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.4763{{c}} (~64/63 = 38.0796{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.8075{{c}} (~64/63 = 38.1925{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36, 60c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36, 60c }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.40 | ||
===== 19-limit ===== | ===== 19-limit ===== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~18/17 = 99.9545{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.4829{{c}} (~64/63 = 38.0624{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~18/17 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 961.8354{{c}} (~64/63 = 38.1646{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36, 60c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 24, 36, 60c }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.27 | ||
== Duodecim == | == Duodecim == | ||
Duodecim uses exactly the same mapping as the 7-limit of 12edo, only correcting its poor approximation of prime 11. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~16/15 = 99.6643{{c}}, ~11/8 = 563.1257{{c}} (~55/54 = 34.8599{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -4.029 -8.334 +4.285 +19.759 -0.279 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~16/15 = 100.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 562.2258{{c}} (~55/54 = 37.7742{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 +13.686 +31.174 + | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 +13.686 +31.174 +10.908 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 24d, 36d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 24d, 36d }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.01 | ||
== Hours == | == Hours == | ||
The hours temperament has a period of 1/24 octave and tempers out the [[cataharry comma]] (19683/19600) and the mirwomo comma (33075/32768). The name ''hours'' was | The hours temperament has a period of 1/24 octave and tempers out the [[cataharry comma]] (19683/19600) and the mirwomo comma (33075/32768). Its ploidacot is 24-ploid acot. The name ''hours'' was given for the reason that the period is 1/24 octave and there are 24 hours per day. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~36/35 = 50.0337{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.2919{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.9775{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.808 -0.675 -0.406 -0.592 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~36/35 = 50.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0719{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.9281{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2.242 -2.898 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, 48, 72, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdd, 528bcdd, 600bccdd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, 48, 72, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdd, 528bcdd, 600bccdd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.94 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~36/35 = 50.0301{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.2848{{c}} (~121/120 = 15.9559{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~36/35 = 50.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.0825{{c}} (~121/120 = 15.9175{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 48, 72, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdde, 528bcdde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 48, 72, 312bd, 384bcdd, 456bcdde, 528bcdde }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.20 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~36/35 = 50.0358{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9267{{c}} (~121/120 = 15.3594{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~36/35 = 50.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.7662{{c}} (~121/120 = 15.2338{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 48f, 72, 168df, 240dff }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 48f, 72, 168df, 240dff }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.11 | ||
== Gamelstearn == | == Gamelstearn == | ||
The gamelstearn temperament has a period of 1/36 octave and tempers out the [[gamelisma]] (1029/1024) and the [[stearnsma]] (118098/117649). | The gamelstearn temperament has a period of 1/36 octave and tempers out the [[gamelisma]] (1029/1024) and the [[stearnsma]] (118098/117649). Its ploidacot is 36-ploid acot. | ||
It used to be | It used to be called ''decades'', but was renamed in 2025 after the above two commas because the old name was deemed too confusing. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~49/48 = 33.3519{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.9781{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.2442{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.667 -0.899 -0.002 -0.288 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~49/48 = 33.3333{{c}}, ~5/4 = 385.1512{{c}} (~81/80 = 14.8488{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -1. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -1.162 -2.159 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 36, 72, 252, 324bd, 396bd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 36, 72, 252, 324bd, 396bd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.73 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~49/48 = 33.3504{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.3474{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.8576{{c}}) | ||
* | * CWE: ~49/48 = 33.333{{c}}, ~5/4 = 384.5541{{c}} (~81/80 = 15.4459{{c}}) | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 72, 396bd | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 72, 396bd }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.42 | ||
== Omicronbeta == | == Omicronbeta == | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~100/99 = 16.6768{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.3259{{c}} (~364/363 = 4.4838{{c}}) | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0. | : [[error map]]: {{val| +0.733 -0.795 -1.281 -0.104 +1.216 -0.004 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~100/99 = 16.6667{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.2660{{c}} (~364/363 = 4.9326{{c}}) | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2.980 -2.159 -1.318 -2. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.955 -2.980 -2.159 -1.318 -2.262 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 144, 216c, 288cdf }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 144, 216c, 288cdf }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.24 | ||
[[Category:Temperament families]] | [[Category:Temperament families]] | ||
[[Category:Compton family| ]] <!-- main article --> | [[Category:Compton family| ]] <!-- main article --> | ||
[[Category:Compton| ]] <!-- key article --> | [[Category:Compton| ]] <!-- key article --> | ||
[[Category:Rank 2]] | [[Category:Rank 2]] | ||