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This page discusses miscellaneous [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out]] [[225/224]], the marvel comma or septimal kleisma.
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Temperaments considered in families and clans are:
* ''[[Pelogic]]'' (+21/20 or 135/128) → [[Mavila family #Pelogic|Mavila family]]
* [[Meantone]] (+81/80 or 126/125) → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]]
* [[Garibaldi]] (+3125/3087) → [[Schismatic family #Garibaldi|Schismatic family]]
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49 or 64/63) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]]
* ''[[Sharpie]]'' (+25/24 or 28/27) → [[Dicot family #Sharpie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Immune]]'' (+781250/750141) → [[Immunity family #Immune|Immunity family]]
* ''[[August]]'' (+36/35 or 128/125) → [[Augmented family #August|Augmented family]]
* ''[[Fog]]'' (+156250/151263) → [[Misty family #Fog|Misty family]]
* [[Bunya]] (+15625/15309) → [[Tetracot family #Bunya|Tetracot family]]
* [[Negri]] (+49/48) → [[Semaphoresmic clan #Negri|Semaphoresmic clan]]
* [[Magic]] (+245/243) → [[Magic family #Magic|Magic family]]
* ''[[Passive]]'' (+256/245) → [[Passion family #Passive|Passion family]]
* ''[[Quintapole]]'' (+7812500/7411887) → [[Quintaleap family #Quintapole|Quintaleap family]]
* ''[[Houborizic]]'' (+1250000/1240029) → [[Amity family #Houborizic|Amity family]]
* ''[[Qintosec]]'' (+2560000/2470629) → [[Quintosec family #Qintosec|Quintosec family]]
* [[Miracle]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Catakleismic]] (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]]
* ''[[Marvo]]'' (+78125000/78121827) → [[Gravity family #Marvo|Gravity family]]
* [[Orwell]] (+1728/1715) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]]
* ''[[Snipes]]'' (+6125/5832)  → [[Wesley family #Snipes|Wesley family]]
* ''[[Demibuzzard]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Demibuzzard|Buzzardsmic clan]]
* ''[[Escapist]]'' (+65625/65536) → [[Escapade family #Escapist|Escapade family]]
* ''[[Decic]]'' (+16807/16384) → [[Cloudy clan #Decic|Cloudy clan]]
* ''[[Amavil]]'' (+17496/16807) → [[Mabila family #Amavil|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Betic]]'' (+1071875/1062882) → [[Sycamore family #Betic|Sycamore family]]
* ''[[Hendeca]]'' (+122880/117649) → [[11th-octave temperaments #Hendeca|11th-octave temperaments]]
* [[Compton]] (+250047/250000) → [[Compton family #Compton|Compton family]]
* ''[[Raccoon]]'' (+41943040/40353607) → [[Vavoom family #Raccoon|Vavoom family]]
* ''[[Maquila]]'' (+30233088/28824005) → [[Maquila family #Septimal maquila|Maquila family]]
* ''[[Gammy]]'' (+94143178827/91913281250) → [[Gammic family #Gammy|Gammic family]]


This page discusses some of the temperaments tempering out |-5 2 2 -1&gt; =[[225_224| 225/224]], the [[marvel comma]] or [[septimal kleisma]]. These include negri, wizard, tritonic, septimin, slender, triton and marvo. Considered elsewhere are meantone, miracle, magic, pajara, orwell, catakleismic, garibaldi, august, compton, sharp, escapade and mavila.
Considered below are wizard, tritonic, septimin, merman, slender, triton, marvolo, enneaportent, gracecordial, alphorn, misneb, untriton, naiadical, quintannic, gwazy, and tertiosec, in the order of increasing [[badness]].  


Since (5/4)^2 = 225/224 * 14/9, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess 5/4-9/7 versions of the augmented triad. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.
Since {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (225/224)⋅(14/9)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess a version of the augmented triad where each third approximates either 5/4 or 9/7. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.


=Negri=
The melodic signature of marvel temperaments is that 16/15 and 15/14 are tempered to be equal. Hence 8/7 can be divided into two equal parts.
[[Comma]]s: 49/48, 225/224


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 125.608
Marvel tempering allows for a tritone substitution whereby the dominant seventh chord formed by adding 16/9 above the root shares its tritone with a 4:5:6:7 tetrad. (The tritone of the dominant seventh is {{nowrap|(16/9)/(5/4) {{=}} 64/45}}. Setting this equal to 10/7 gives {{nowrap|(10/7)/(64/45) {{=}} 225/224}}.)


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 2 2 3|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2|]
== Wizard ==
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;4 -3 2 -14 -8 13||
{{Main| Wizard }}
EDOs: [[9edo|9]], [[10edo|10]], [[19edo|19]], [[86edo|86]]
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Wizard]].''


==11-limit==
Wizard has a [[semi-octave]] period and is generated by an interval that can be treated as [[~]][[17/15]]. The semi-octave complement of this interval is ~[[5/4]]. Wizard can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 72 }}. Its [[ploidacot]] is diploid alpha-hexacot, so six generator steps plus a semi-octave period gives the [[3/1|perfect twelfth]]. [[72edo]], [[94edo]], and especially [[166edo]] are good tunings for it.
Commas: 45/44, 49/48, 56/55


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 126.474
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 -5|]
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 118098/117649
EDOs: 9, 10, 19
[[Badness]]: 0.0262


==13-limit==
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 5 2 | 0 6 -1 10 }}
Commas: 45/44, 49/48, 56/55, 78/77
: mapping generators: ~1225/864, ~245/216


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 126.431
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~1225/864 = 600.3438{{c}}, ~245/216 = 216.8680{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.688 -0.403 -1.463 +0.541 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~1225/864 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~245/216 = 216.7977{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.169 -3.111 -0.849 }}


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4 4|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 -5 -3|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 50, 72, 238c, 310c, 382c, 454bccd }}
EDOs: 9, 10, 19


=Negril=
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.03
Commas: 49/48, 100/99, 225/224


POTE generator: ~15/14 = 124.767
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 2|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 14|]
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 4000/3993
EDOs: 9, 10, 19, [[29edo|29]], [[48edo|48]], [[77edo|77]]
Badness: 0.0387


==13-limit==
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 }}
Commas: 49/48, 65/64, 91/90, 875/858


POTE generator: ~15/14 = 124.716
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.3051{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.8782{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.7961{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 2 4|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 14 -3|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }}
EDOs: 9, 10, 19, 29, 48, 77
Badness: 0.0244


=Negric=
Badness (Sintel): 0.613
Commas: 33/32, 49/48, 77/75


POTE generator: ~15/14 = 127.039
==== Lizard ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 3|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 4|]
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 364/363, 385/384
EDOs: 9, 19, [[85edo|85]]
Badness: 0.0306


==13-limit==
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 }}
Commas: 33/32, 49/48, 65/64, 91/90


POTE generator: ~15/14 = 127.039
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~55/39 = 600.4824{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.7852{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.6247{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 3 4|, &lt;0 -4 3 -2 4 -3|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72 }}
EDOs: 9, 19, 85
Badness: 0.0202


=Wizard=
Badness (Sintel): 0.900
Commas: 225/224, 118098/117649


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 383.256
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2|, &lt;0 6 -1 10|]
Comma list: 221/220, 273/272, 289/288, 351/350, 375/374
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;12 -2 20 -31 -2 52||
EDOs: [[22edo|22]], [[50edo|50]], [[72edo|72]], [[94edo|94]], [[166edo|166]], [[238edo|238c]], [[269edo|269c]], [[310edo|310c]], [[382edo|382c]], [[454edo|454bcd]]
Badness: 0.0408


==11-limit==
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 6 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6 }}
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 4000/3993


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 383.232
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.5032{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8002{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.6361{{c}}


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72 }}
EDOs: 22, 31, 41, 50, 72, [[166edo|166]], [[238edo|238c]], [[310edo|310c]]
Badness: 0.0185


==Lizard==
Badness (Sintel): 0.741
Commas: 225/224, 351/350, 364/363, 385/384


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 383.389
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 11|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 -10|]
Comma list: 153/152, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 273/272, 343/342
EDOs: 22, 31, 41f, 46, 50, 62, 65f, 72
Badness: 0.0218


===17-limit===
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 6 2 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6 18 }}
Commas: 221/220, 273/272, 289/288, 351/350, 375/374


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 383.381
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.4698{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.6925{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.5434{{c}}


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 11 6|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22h, 50, 72, 122g, 194dfg }}
EDOs: 22, 26, 31, 41fg, 46, 50, 62, 72
Badness: 0.0145


===19-limit===
Badness (Sintel): 0.955
Commas: 153/152, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 273/272, 343/342


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 383.477
==== Gizzard ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 11 6 2|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6 18|]
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1573/1568
EDOs: 22, 24, 26, 31, 41g, 50, 65fg, 72, [[122edo|122g]], [[194edo|194dfg]], [[266edo|266bcdfg]]
Badness: 0.0157


==Gizzard==
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 }}
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 325/324, 1573/1568


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 383.170
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.2896{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.9343{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.8501{{c}}


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 -2|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 26|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 72, 166, 238cf }}
EDOs: [[22edo|22]], [[26edo|26]], [[31edo|31]], [[41edo|41]], [[53edo|53]], [[72edo|72]], [[94edo|94]], [[113edo|113]], [[125edo|125f]], [[166edo|166]], [[238edo|238cf]], [[404edo|404cef]]
Badness: 0.0203


===17-limit===
Badness (Sintel): 0.837
Commas: 225/224, 289/288, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 383.175
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 -2 6|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6|]
Comma list: 225/224, 289/288, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384
EDOs: 22, 26, 31, 41g, 46, 53g, 63g, 72, 94, [[135edo|135fg]], [[166edo|166g]], [[238edo|238cfg]], [[404edo|404cefg]]
Badness: 0.0136


===19-limit===
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 6 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6 }}
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 325/324, 595/594, 375/374, 400/399


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 383.138
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.3227{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.9414{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8469{{c}}


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 8 -2 6 15|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6 -18|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 72, 166g, 238cfg }}
EDOs: 22, 26, 31, 41g, 46, 53g, 72, 94, 166g
Badness: 0.0148


==Mage==
Badness (Sintel): 0.694
Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 1331/1296


POTE generator: ~55/48 = 216.876
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


Map: [&lt;2 1 5 2 4|, &lt;0 6 -1 10 8|]
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594
EDOs: 22, 72e, 94e
Badness: 0.0578


=Triton=
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 6 15 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6 -18 }}
Commas: 225/224, 1029/1000


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 568.865
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.2637{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.9570{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8687{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 0 6 7|, &lt;0 3 -7 -8|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 94, 166g }}
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;3 -7 -8 -18 -21 1||
EDOs: 19, 135, 289


=Tritonic=
Badness (Sintel): 0.901
Commas: 225/224, 50421/50000


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 580.286
=== Mage ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Map: [&lt;1 4 -3 -3|, &lt;0 -5 11 12|]
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 1331/1296
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;5 -11 -12 -29 -33 3||
EDOs: [[29edo|29]], [[31edo|31]], [[60edo|60]], [[91edo|91]], [[122edo|122]], 213bcd


==11-limit==
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 4 | 0 6 -1 10 8 }}
Commas: 121/120, 225/224, 441/440


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~7/5 = 580.267
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~77/54 = 600.6486{{c}}, ~55/48 = 217.1099{{c}}
* CWE: ~77/54 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~55/48 = 216.9841{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 4 -3 -3 2|, &lt;0 -5 11 12 3|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50e, 72ee }}
EDOs: 29, 31, 60e
Badness: 0.0237


==13-limit==
Badness (Sintel): 1.91
Commas: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 275/273


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 580.108
== Tritonic ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tritonic]].''


Map: [&lt;1 4 -3 -3 2 -5|, &lt;0 -5 11 12 3 18|]
Tritonic tempers out [[50421/50000]] and may be described as the {{nowrap| 29 & 31 }} temperament. It splits the [[6/1|6th]] [[harmonic]] into five generators of [[~]][[10/7]] [[tritone]]s, hence the name. Its [[ploidacot]] is beta-pentacot. [[60edo]] may be used as a tuning, which in the 11-limit entails the 60e val.  
EDOs: 29, 31, 60e, 151cde
Badness: 0.0230


==Tritoni==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 27783/27500


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 580.389
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 50421/50000


Map: [&lt;1 4 -3 -3 17|, &lt;0 -5 11 12 -28|]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 8 9 | 0 5 -11 -12 }}
EDOs: 31, 91, 122
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
Badness: 0.0455


=Merman=
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
Commas: 225/224, 2500000/2470629
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.3539{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.4131{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.354 -1.243 -0.027 -1.598 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6778{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.566 -2.769 -4.959 }}


POTE generator: ~7/5 = 585.585
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 29, 31, 60, 91, 122, 213bcd }}


Map: [&lt;1 5 -5 -5|, &lt;0 -7 15 16|]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.20
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;7 -15 -16 -40 -45 5||
EDOs: 41, 84, 125
Badness: 0.0551


=Septimin=  
=== 11-limit ===
Commas: 225/224, 84035/82944
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 263.632
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 441/440


Map: [&lt;1 4 1 5|, &lt;0 -11 6 -10|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 }}
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;11 -6 10 -35 -15 40||
EDOs: 9, [[32edo|32]], 41, 91, [[132edo|132]]


==11-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 2401/2376
* WE: ~2 = 1201.7116{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.6166{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6890{{c}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 263.634
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29, 31, 60e, 91e, 213bcdeee }}


Map: [&lt;1 4 1 5 5|, &lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7|]
Badness (Sintel): 0.782
EDOs: 9, 32, 41, 91


==13-limit==  
==== 13-limit ====
Commas: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 245/242
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 263.700
Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 275/273


Map: [&lt;1 4 1 5 5 7|, &lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7 -15|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 }}
EDOs: 9, 41, 91


=Slender=  
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 225/225, 589824/588245
* WE: ~2 = 1201.5355{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.6855{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.8469{{c}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: ~49/48 = 38.413
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29, 31, 60e }}


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3|, &lt;0 -13 10 -6|]
Badness (Sintel): 0.950
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;13 -10 6 -46 -27 42||
EDOs: 31, 94, 125
Badness: 0.0569


==11-limit==  
==== 17-limit ====
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: ~49/48 = 38.387
Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 154/153, 196/195, 273/272


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4|, &lt;0 -13 10 -6 -17|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 }}
EDOs: 31, 63, 94, 125
Badness: 25.342


==13-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384, 1331/1323
* WE: ~2 = 1201.5260{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.7330{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.8986{{c}}


POTE generator: ~49/48 = 38.314
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29g, 31, 60e }}


Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4 3|, &lt;0 -13 10 -6 -17 22|]
Badness (Sintel): 0.973
EDOs: 31, 63, 94
Badness: 25.913


=Marvo=  
==== 19-limit ====
Commas: 225/224, 78125000/78121827
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: ~27/20 = 516.694
Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 121/120, 153/152, 196/195, 273/272


Map: [&lt;1 5 12 29|, &lt;0 -6 -17 -46|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 }}
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;6, 17, 46, 13, 56 59||
EDOs: 65, 72


==11-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 4000/3993
* WE: ~2 = 1201.3100{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.6509{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.9328{{c}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: ~27/20 = 516.699
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29g, 31, 60e }}


Map: [&lt;1 5 12 29 12|, &lt;0 -6 -17 -46 -15|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.03
EDOs: 65, 72, 281, 497


==13-limit==
==== 23-limit ====
Commas: 243/242, 225/224, 351/350, 1625/1617
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23


POTE generator: ~27/20 = 516.730
Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 115/114, 121/120, 153/152, 161/160, 196/195


Map: [&lt;1 5 12 29 12 39|, &lt;0 -6 -17 -46 -15 -62|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 4 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 1 }}
EDOs: 72, 137, 209, 281f, 490bcf
Badness: 0.0269


=Marvolo=
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 225/224, 156250000/155649627
* WE: ~2 = 1201.4074{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.7185{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.9548{{c}}


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.348
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 29g, 31, 60e }}


Map: [&lt;1 2 1 1|, &lt;0 -6 19 26|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.04
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;6 -19 -26 -44 -58 -7||
EDOs: 29, 43, 72, 619bcd, 691bcd
Badness: 0.0833


==11-limit==
=== Tritoni ===
Commas: 225/224, 441/440, 4000/3993
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.340
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 27783/27500


Map: [&lt;1 2 1 1 2|, &lt;0 -6 19 26 21|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 -11 | 0 5 -11 -12 28 }}
EDOs: 29, 43, 72
Badness: 0.0290


==13-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 169/168, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0888{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.1733{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6146{{c}}


POTE generator: ~21/20 = 83.330
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 91, 122, 153d }}


Map: [&lt;1 2 1 1 2 3|, &lt;0 -6 19 26 21 10|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.50
EDOs: 29, 43, 72
Badness: 0.0215


=Amavil=
== Septimin ==
Commas: 225/224, 17496/16807
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Septimin]].''


POTE generator: ~48/35 = 529.979
Septimin may be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 50 }} temperament. It is generated by a septimal minor third ([[7/6]]), which gives rise to the name, but the generator can be taken to be the [[octave complement]], [[12/7]], such that eleven of them [[octave reduction|octave reduced]] give the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]; its [[ploidacot]] is thus eta-hendecacot. [[91edo]] may be recommended as a tuning.  


Map: [&lt;1 6 1 9|, &lt;0 -10 3 -14|]
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;10 -3 14 -28 -6 41||
EDOs: 9, 34d, 43, 77d
Badness: 0.1096


==11-limit==
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 84035/82944
Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 864/847


POTE generator: ~15/11 = 529.974
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -7 7 -5 | 0 11 -6 10 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~12/7


Map: [&lt;1 6 1 9 7|, &lt;0 -10 3 -14 -8|]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
EDOs: 9, 34d, 43, 77de
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.2452{{c}}, ~12/7 = 937.3394{{c}}
Badness: 0.0426
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.245 +0.062 -1.633 -1.658 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.4036{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.516 -4.735 -4.790 }}


==13-limit==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 91, 132d }}
Commas: 78/77, 99/98, 144/143, 176/175


POTE generator: ~15/11 = 529.951
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38


Map: [&lt;1 6 1 9 7 9|, &lt;0 -10 3 -14 -8 -12|]
=== 11-limit ===
EDOs: 9, 34d, 43, 77de
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Badness: 0.0258


=Enneaportent=
Comma list: 225/224, 245/242, 385/384
Commas: 225/224, 40353607/40310784


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 383.165
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 | 0 11 -6 10 7 }}


Map: [&lt;9 0 28 11|, &lt;0 2 -1 2|]
Optimal tunings:  
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;18 -9 18 -56 -22 67||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8059{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.9952{{c}}
EDOs: 9, 54, 63, 72, 495bcd
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3906{{c}}
Badness: 0.0937


==11-limit==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 91, 223cdef }}
Commas: 225/224, 385/384, 12005/11979


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 383.146
Badness (Sintel): 1.04


Map: [&lt;9 0 28 11 24|, &lt;0 2 -1 2 1|]
=== 13-limit ===
EDOs: 9, 54, 63, 72, 423cd, 495bcd
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Badness: 0.0304
 
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Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 245/242
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 -8 | 0 11 -6 10 7 15 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5990{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.7670{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3196{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 91 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.955
 
== Merman ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Merman]].''
 
Merman may be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 43 }} temperament. Like [[#Tritonic|tritonic]], it is generated by a [[~]][[10/7]] [[tritone]], but here, seven generator steps give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is gamma-heptacot.
 
The name was likely derived from {{w|Triton (mythology)|''Triton''}}, which was in turn derived from ''tritonic''.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
 
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 2500000/2470629
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 10 11 | 0 7 -15 -16 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.3898{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.6413{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.390 -0.435 -1.630 +1.634 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4073{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.104 -2.423 +0.657 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 84, 125 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.39
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 10 11 5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9578{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.3720{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.3943{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 84, 125e }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.20
 
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 144/143, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 10 11 5 -5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 17 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7422{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.2110{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.3442{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend