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'''405/392''', the '''greenwoodma''', is a [[medium comma|medium]] [[7-limit]] [[comma]].  
'''405/392''', the '''greenwoodma''', is a [[medium comma|medium]] [[7-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between [[8/5]] and a stack of two [[9/7]]'s. In terms of commas, it is the sum of the [[81/80|syntonic comma (81/80)]] and the [[50/49|jubilisma (50/49)]].
 
In the 11-limit, it factors into simpler commas as ([[45/44]])⋅([[99/98]]).  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
[[Tempering out]] this comma leads to the '''greenwoodmic temperament'''. See [[Greenwoodmic temperaments]] for a collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  
[[Tempering out]] this comma leads to the rank-3 [[greenwoodmic]] temperament. This temperament splits a [[~]][[5/2]] in two, each representing ~[[14/9]]. See [[Greenwoodmic temperaments]] for a collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  


== Notation ==
== Notation ==
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Latest revision as of 18:51, 9 April 2026

Interval information
Ratio 405/392
Factorization 2-3 × 34 × 5 × 7-2
Monzo [-3 4 1 -2
Size in cents 56.4819¢
Name greenwoodma
Color name rry-2, ruruyo negative 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d}{-2}^{5}_{7,7} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 17.2765
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 17.3236
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 37
Comma size medium
Open this interval in xen-calc

405/392, the greenwoodma, is a medium 7-limit comma. It is the difference between 8/5 and a stack of two 9/7's. In terms of commas, it is the sum of the syntonic comma (81/80) and the jubilisma (50/49).

In the 11-limit, it factors into simpler commas as (45/44)⋅(99/98).

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-3 greenwoodmic temperament. This temperament splits a ~5/2 in two, each representing ~14/9. See Greenwoodmic temperaments for a collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.

Notation

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal and is called the 49/5 medium diesis, or 49/5M for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 49/5 = 7×7/5 (equiv. 49/40), as for example in C-E⁠ ⁠. The upward version is called 5/49M or 49/5M up and is represented by .