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== Theory ==

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=== Prime harmonics ===

{{Harmonics in equal|125|columns=9|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of prime harmonics in 125edo (continued)}}

=== Octave stretch ===

125edo's approximated harmonics 3, 5, and 13 can be improved, and moreover the approximated harmonic 11 can be brought to consistency, by slightly [[stretched and compressed tuning|stretching the octave]], though it comes at the expense of somewhat less accurate approximations of 7, 17, and 19. Tunings such as [[198edt]] and [[323ed6]] are great demonstrations of this.

=== Subsets and supersets ===

Since 125 factors into ~~{{factorization|125}}~~, 125edo contains [[5edo]] and [[25edo]] as ~~its subsets~~. Being the cube closest to division of the octave by the Germanic {{w|long hundred}}, 125edo has a unit step which is the cubic (fine) relative cent of [[1edo]]. Using every 9th step, ~~or [[~~1ed86.~~4c]]~~ still encapsulates many of its best-tuned harmonics.

Since 125 factors into primes as 53, 125edo contains [[5edo]] and [[25edo]] as subset edos. Being the cube closest to division of the octave by the Germanic {{w|long hundred}}, 125edo has a unit step which is the cubic (fine) relative cent{{Idio}} of [[1edo]].

Using every 9th step of 125edo, '''86.4-cET''' (also known as '''1ed86.4{{cent}}''', and sometimes '''13.888edo''' by approximation) still encapsulates many of its best-tuned harmonics, such as the 3rd, 7th, 9th and 11th. It has been voted "monthly tuning" multiple times on the [[Monthly Tunings]] Facebook group. This subset is closely related to [[22edt]], another tuning that closely approximates [[42zpi]].

{{Harmonics in cet|86.4|prec=1|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 1ed86.4c (continued)}}

== Approximation to JI ==

=== Higher-limit JI ===

125edo does well as a flat-tending no-13's no-41's 67-limit system by using error cancellations to achieve frequently accurate approximations of the corresponding [[odd limit]]. Due to the relative simplicity of intervals of 13, harmonies of 13 are usable in practice, but will run into numerous inconsistencies no matter which mapping for 13 you use (the flat one or the sharp one, the latter being used by the [[patent val]]). In the no-13's no-41's 67-odd-limit (so omitting 39 and 65*), there are 31 inconsistent interval pairs out of 362 interval pairs total, meaning less than 9% of intervals are mapped to their second-best mapping rather than their best. In ascending order, these intervals are: 56/55, 50/49, 34/33, 33/32, 57/55, 55/53, 49/46, 55/51, 49/45, 54/49, 49/44, 28/25, 55/49, 63/55, 55/48, 38/33, 64/55, 33/28, 28/23, 60/49, 68/55, 56/45, 61/49, 66/53, 14/11, 55/42, 45/34, 66/49, 23/17, 34/25, 76/55, 55/38, 25/17, and their [[octave complement]]s. (Therefore, all 331 other intervals are mapped with strictly less than 4.8{{cent}} of error.)

<nowiki>*</nowiki> including odd 39 and/or 65 is possible if you don't mind about a dozen more inconsistent interval pairs so that there's more inconsistencies in total but with more coverage.

== Regular temperament properties ==

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! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]

! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]

! rowspan="2" | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢)

! rowspan="2" | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢)

! colspan="2" | Tuning error

|-

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| 2.3

| {{~~monzo~~| -198 125 }}

| {{Monzo| -198 125 }}

| [{{~~val~~| 125 198 }}]

| {{Mapping| 125 198 }}

| +0.364

| 0.364

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| 2.3.5

| 15625/15552, 17433922005/17179869184

| [{{~~val~~| 125 198 290 }}]

| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 }}

| +0.575

| 0.421

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| 2.3.5.7

| 225/224, 4375/4374, 589824/588245

| [{{~~val~~| 125 198 290 351 }}]

| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 }}

| +0.362

| 0.519

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| 2.3.5.7.11

| 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 4375/4374

| [{{~~val~~| 125 198 290 351 432 }}]

| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 432 }}

| +0.528

| 0.570

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| 2.3.5.7.11.13

| 169/168, 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323

| [{{~~val~~| 125 198 290 351 432 462 }}] (125f)

| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 432 462 }} (125f)

| +0.680

| 0.622

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|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator

|-

! Periods per 8ve

! Periods per 8ve

! Generator*

! Cents*

! Associated ratio*

! Associated ratio*

! Temperaments

|-

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| 5

| 26\125 (1\125)

| 26\125 (1\125)

| 249.6 (9.6)

| 249.6 (9.6)

| 81/70 (176/175)

| 81/70 (176/175)

| [[~~Hemipental~~]]

| [[Hemiquintile]]

|-

| 5

| 52\125 (2\125)

| 52\125 (2\125)

| 499.2 (19.2)

| 499.2 (19.2)

| 4/3 (81/80)

| 4/3 (81/80)

| [[~~Pental~~ (~~temperament~~)|~~Pental~~]]

| [[Quintile]]

|-

| 5

| 33\125 (8\125)

| 316.8 (76.8)

| 6/5 (23/22)

| [[Thunderclysmic]]

|}

<nowiki />* [[Normal ~~lists~~|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[~~Normal lists~~|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct

<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct

== Scales ==

* [[Catakleismic]][7]: 7 26 7 26 7 26 26

* Catakleismic[11]: 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 19 7

* Catakleismic[15]: 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7

* Catakleismic[19]: 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7

* Catakleismic[34]: 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5

* Catakleismic[53]: 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3

; Catakleismic[34] subsets

{{Idiosyncratic terms|Meta-tropolis and its subsets named by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]}}

* Meta-tropolis scale (12-tone): 14 7 5 14 19 14 14 5 9 10 2 12

** City-at-dawn scale: 21 38 14 14 14 24

** City-at-midday scale: 40 19 14 14 14 24

** City-at-dusk scale: 40 19 14 28 12 12

** City-at-midnight scale: 40 19 14 14 26 12

** Port-at-dawn scale: 26 33 14 19 9 24

** Port-at-midday scale: 40 19 14 19 9 24

** Port-at-dusk scale: 40 19 14 28 10 14

** Port-at-midnight scale: 40 19 14 19 19 14

* Pseudo-minor blues: 21 12 26 14 33 19

* Pseudo-whole tone scale 19 21 21 19 26 19

== Music ==

* ''[https://soundcloud.com/morphosyntax-1/the-butterflys-dream The Butterfly’s Dream]'' (in 86.4-cET) by [[Herman Miller]] (2022)

[[Category:Catakleismic]]

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 {{Infobox ET}}
-{{EDO intro|125}}
+{{ED intro}}
 == Theory ==
@@ Line 7: / Line 7: @@
 === Prime harmonics ===
 {{Harmonics in equal|125}}
+{{Harmonics in equal|125|columns=9|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of prime harmonics in 125edo (continued)}}
+=== Octave stretch ===
+edo's approximated harmonics 3, 5, and 13 can be improved, and moreover the approximated harmonic 11 can be brought to consistency, by slightly [[stretched and compressed tuning|stretching the octave]], though it comes at the expense of somewhat less accurate approximations of 7, 17, and 19. Tunings such as [[198edt]] and [[323ed6]] are great demonstrations of this.
 === Subsets and supersets ===
-Since 125 factors into {{factorization|125}}, 125edo contains [[5edo]] and [[25edo]] as its subsets. Being the cube closest to division of the octave by the Germanic {{w|long hundred}}, 125edo has a unit step which is the cubic (fine) relative cent of [[1edo]]. Using every 9th step, or [[1ed86.4c]] still encapsulates many of its best-tuned harmonics.
+Since 125 factors into primes as 5<sup>3</sup>, 125edo contains [[5edo]] and [[25edo]] as subset edos. Being the cube closest to division of the octave by the Germanic {{w|long hundred}}, 125edo has a unit step which is the cubic (fine) relative cent{{Idio}} of [[1edo]].
+Using every 9th step of 125edo, '''86.4-cET''' (also known as '''1ed86.4{{cent}}''', and sometimes '''13.888edo''' by approximation) still encapsulates many of its best-tuned harmonics, such as the 3rd, 7th, 9th and 11th. It has been voted "monthly tuning" multiple times on the [[Monthly Tunings]] Facebook group. This subset is closely related to [[22edt]], another tuning that closely approximates [[42zpi]].
+{{Harmonics in cet|86.4|prec=1|columns=11|collapsed=true}}
+{{Harmonics in cet|86.4|prec=1|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 1ed86.4c (continued)}}
+== Approximation to JI ==
+=== Higher-limit JI ===
+edo does well as a flat-tending no-13's no-41's 67-limit system by using error cancellations to achieve frequently accurate approximations of the corresponding [[odd limit]]. Due to the relative simplicity of intervals of 13, harmonies of 13 are usable in practice, but will run into numerous inconsistencies no matter which mapping for 13 you use (the flat one or the sharp one, the latter being used by the [[patent val]]). In the no-13's no-41's 67-odd-limit (so omitting 39 and 65*), there are 31 inconsistent interval pairs out of 362 interval pairs total, meaning less than 9% of intervals are mapped to their second-best mapping rather than their best. In ascending order, these intervals are: 56/55, 50/49, 34/33, 33/32, 57/55, 55/53, 49/46, 55/51, 49/45, 54/49, 49/44, 28/25, 55/49, 63/55, 55/48, 38/33, 64/55, 33/28, 28/23, 60/49, 68/55, 56/45, 61/49, 66/53, 14/11, 55/42, 45/34, 66/49, 23/17, 34/25, 76/55, 55/38, 25/17, and their [[octave complement]]s. (Therefore, all 331 other intervals are mapped with strictly less than 4.8{{cent}} of error.)
+<nowiki>*</nowiki> including odd 39 and/or 65 is possible if you don't mind about a dozen more inconsistent interval pairs so that there's more inconsistencies in total but with more coverage.
 == Regular temperament properties ==
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 ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]
 ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
-! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br />8ve stretch (¢)
+! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢)
 ! colspan="2" | Tuning error
 |-
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 |-
 | 2.3
-| {{monzo| -198 125 }}
+| {{Monzo| -198 125 }}
-| [{{val| 125 198 }}]
+| {{Mapping| 125 198 }}
 | +0.364
 | 0.364
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 | 2.3.5
 | 15625/15552, 17433922005/17179869184
-| [{{val| 125 198 290 }}]
+| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 }}
 | +0.575
 | 0.421
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 | 2.3.5.7
 | 225/224, 4375/4374, 589824/588245
-| [{{val| 125 198 290 351 }}]
+| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 }}
 | +0.362
 | 0.519
@@ Line 46: / Line 60: @@
 | 2.3.5.7.11
 | 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 4375/4374
-| [{{val| 125 198 290 351 432 }}]
+| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 432 }}
 | +0.528
 | 0.570
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 | 2.3.5.7.11.13
 | 169/168, 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323
-| [{{val| 125 198 290 351 432 462 }}] (125f)
+| {{Mapping| 125 198 290 351 432 462 }} (125f)
 | +0.680
 | 0.622
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 |+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
 |-
-! Periods<br />per 8ve
+! Periods<br>per 8ve
 ! Generator*
 ! Cents*
-! Associated<br />ratio*
+! Associated<br>ratio*
 ! Temperaments
 |-
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 |-
 | 5
-| 26\125<br />(1\125)
+| 26\125<br>(1\125)
-| 249.6<br />(9.6)
+| 249.6<br>(9.6)
-| 81/70<br />(176/175)
+| 81/70<br>(176/175)
-| [[Hemipental]]
+| [[Hemiquintile]]
 |-
 | 5
-| 52\125<br />(2\125)
+| 52\125<br>(2\125)
-| 499.2<br />(19.2)
+| 499.2<br>(19.2)
-| 4/3<br />(81/80)
+| 4/3<br>(81/80)
-| [[Pental (temperament)|Pental]]
+| [[Quintile]]
+|-
+| 5
+| 33\125<br>(8\125)
+| 316.8<br>(76.8)
+| 6/5<br>(23/22)
+| [[Thunderclysmic]]
 |}
-<nowiki />* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
+<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
+== Scales ==
+* [[Catakleismic]][7]: 7 26 7 26 7 26 26
+* Catakleismic[11]: 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 19 7
+* Catakleismic[15]: 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7
+* Catakleismic[19]: 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7
+* Catakleismic[34]: 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 5 2 5 2 5 2 5 2 5
+* Catakleismic[53]: 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3
+; Catakleismic[34] subsets
+{{Idiosyncratic terms|Meta-tropolis and its subsets named by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]}}
+* Meta-tropolis scale (12-tone): 14 7 5 14 19 14 14 5 9 10 2 12
+** City-at-dawn scale: 21 38 14 14 14 24
+** City-at-midday scale: 40 19 14 14 14 24
+** City-at-dusk scale: 40 19 14 28 12 12
+** City-at-midnight scale: 40 19 14 14 26 12
+** Port-at-dawn scale: 26 33 14 19 9 24
+** Port-at-midday scale: 40 19 14 19 9 24
+** Port-at-dusk scale: 40 19 14 28 10 14
+** Port-at-midnight scale: 40 19 14 19 19 14
+* Pseudo-minor blues: 21 12 26 14 33 19
+* Pseudo-whole tone scale 19 21 21 19 26 19
+== Music ==
+* ''[https://soundcloud.com/morphosyntax-1/the-butterflys-dream The Butterfly’s Dream]'' (in 86.4-cET) by [[Herman Miller]] (2022)
 [[Category:Catakleismic]]