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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
240edo notably provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 5-limit [[compton]] temperament, the rank-2 temperament associated with the [[Pythagorean comma]]. However, it is only [[consistent]] in the [[5-odd-limit]]. Its mapping for 3 is not well approximated, meaning it is a [[dual-fifth system]]; its alternative mapping for 3/2 is the 705{{c}} sharp fifth inherited from [[80edo]]. | 240edo notably provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 5-limit [[compton]] temperament, the rank-2 temperament associated with the [[Pythagorean comma]]. However, it is only [[consistent]] in the [[5-odd-limit]]. Its mapping for [[harmonic]] [[3/1|3]] is not well approximated, meaning it is a [[dual-fifth system]]; its alternative mapping for 3/2 is the 705{{c}} sharp fifth inherited from [[80edo]]. | ||
Although no longer consistent | Although no longer consistent to the higher limits, 240edo's [[patent val]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[225/224]] in the 7-limit, [[support]]ing [[marvel]] with harmonics 3, [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]] having less than two cents of error. Retuning 5-limit scales to 240edo is a simple way to to make them function as 7-limit scales while retaining very accurate tuning. | ||
240edo is similar to [[197edo]] in terms of intonation in the 7-limit. The main difference is that 197edo, despite a flatter third, gives generally better results and may be preferred, whitherfore a compromise between good results and an accurate 5 may be worked out by means of retuning 5-limit scales to the 43 & 197 temperament, which has a comma basis {225/224, {{monzo| -49 19 -10 15 }}} in the 7-limit. | 240edo is similar to [[197edo]] in terms of intonation in the 7-limit. The main difference is that 197edo, despite a flatter third, gives generally better results and may be preferred, whitherfore a compromise between good results and an accurate 5 may be worked out by means of retuning 5-limit scales to the {{nowrap| 43 & 197 }} temperament, which has a comma basis {225/224, {{monzo| -49 19 -10 15 }}} in the 7-limit. | ||
For higher limits, 240edo tempers out [[243/242]] in the 11-limit, [[351/350]] in the 13-limit, and [[375/374]] in the 17-limit, and adding these to the mix converts marvel temperament into [[spectacle]] temperament. This is still a | For higher limits, 240edo tempers out [[243/242]] in the 11-limit, [[351/350]] in the 13-limit, and [[375/374]] in the 17-limit, and adding these to the mix converts marvel temperament into [[spectacle]] temperament. This is still a [[rank-3 temperament]], but more complex as two undecimal neutral thirds of [[11/9]] make up a fifth (which is in fact the same fifth as that of 12edo, and the 11/9 is the 350-cent interval often employed in [[24edo]] versions of [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Arabic music]].) | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|240}} | {{Harmonics in equal|240}} | ||
=== Subsets and supersets === | |||
240edo is the 12th [[highly composite edo]], with subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, 120 }}. In addition, as every fifth step of [[1200edo]], it is the largest highly composite edo expressible in integer cents. | |||
== Interval table == | == Interval table == | ||
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! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br | ! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | ||
! colspan="2" | Tuning error | ! colspan="2" | Tuning error | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| 2.3.5 | | 2.3.5 | ||
| 531441/524288, {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }} | | 531441/524288, {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }} | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 240 380 557 }} | ||
| 0.5998 | | 0.5998 | ||
| 0.5044 | | 0.5044 | ||
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|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Periods<br | ! Periods<br>per 8ve | ||
! Generator* | ! Generator* | ||
! Cents* | ! Cents* | ||
! Associated<br | ! Associated<br>ratio* | ||
! Temperaments | ! Temperaments | ||
|- | |- | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 77\240<br>(3\240) | |||
| 385.00<br>(15.00) | |||
| 5/4<br>(81/80) | |||
| 77\240<br | |||
| 385.00<br | |||
| 5/4<br | |||
| [[Compton]] | | [[Compton]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki />* [[Normal | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 – [[Compton]][24] | * 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 – [[Compton]][24] | ||
* 23 31 80 23 83 – [[Indonesian|Balinese]] pentatonic [[pelog]] scale; [[Tolgahan Çoğulu]]'s tuning | * 23 31 80 23 83 – [[Indonesian|Balinese]] pentatonic [[pelog]] scale; [[Tolgahan Çoğulu]]'s tuning | ||
== Instruments == | |||
A [[Lumatone mapping for 240edo]] is now available. | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
; [[Chris Charles]] (via [https://www.youtube.com/@microtonalguitar Microtonal Guitar - Tolgahan Çoğulu]) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GoGlj5IyZc ''Balinese Gamelan Music on Microtonal Guitar - Chris Charles''] (2017) (Uses a 5-tone subset of 240edo for all three pieces performed in the recording—as explained in the video description: "''The scale we used in the piece: Pelog Selisir: D, Eb +30 F -15 A -30 Bb -15''".) | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Nu-xBrsd8_o ''microtonal improvisation in 240edo''] (2025) | |||
== | == Trivia == | ||
[[Shaahin Mohajeri]], an [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Iranian]] Tombak player and composer, calls his personal [https://sites.google.com/site/240edo/ Google site] "240edo", where he makes the point that five cents is a size close to the [[ | [[Shaahin Mohajeri]], an [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Iranian]] Tombak player and composer, calls his personal [https://sites.google.com/site/240edo/ Google site] "240edo", where he makes the point that five cents is a size close to the [[just-noticeable difference]] between pitches. | ||
[[Category:Compton]] | [[Category:Compton]] | ||
[[Category:Marvel]] | [[Category:Marvel]] | ||