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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0308{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0308{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.230 -1.160 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.230 -1.160 }}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0586{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.007{{c}} -->


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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. Keemun, catakleismic and countercata all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic and countercata define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun.  
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, gives catakleismic. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives keemun. [[5120/5103]], hemifamity, gives countercata. [[179200/177147]], the tolerant comma, gives metakleismic. [[64/63]], the archytas comma, gives catalan. Catakleismic, keemun, countercata, metakleismic, and catalan all have octave period and use the minor third as a generator; catakleismic, countercata, and metakleismic define the 7/4 more complexly but more accurately than keemun and catalan.  


[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives hemikleismic. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives clyde. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives tritikleismic. [[2401/2400]] the breedsma, gives quadritikleismic. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of 35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a 9/7 generator. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.
[[6144/6125]], the porwell comma, gives [[#Hemikleismic|hemikleismic]]. [[245/243]], sensamagic, gives [[#Clyde|clyde]]. [[1029/1024]], the gamelisma, gives [[#Tritikleismic|tritikleismic]]. [[10976/10935]], hemimage, gives [[#Marfifths|marfifths]]. [[1728/1715]], the orwellismia, gives [[#Kleiboh|kleiboh]]. [[2401/2400]], the breedsma, gives [[#Quadritikleismic|quadritikleismic]]. [[2460375/2458624]], the breeze comma, gives [[#Marthirds|marthirds]]. Hemikleismic splits the 6/5 in half to get a neutral second generator of ~35/32, and clyde similarly splits the 5/3 in half to get a ~9/7 generator. Marfifths splits the 12/5 into three. Kleiboh splits the 24/5 into three. Marthirds splits the 12/5 into four. Finally, tritikleismic has a 1/3-octave period with minor third generator, and quadritikleismic a 1/4-octave period with the minor third generator.
 
Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Sqrtphi|sqrtphi]], [[#Quartkeenlig|quartkeenlig]], [[#Novemkleismic|novemkleismic]]. Those split the kleismic structure into five to nine parts.
 
The kleismic family boasts a very remarkable extension to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], which has further extensions with higher primes. These are listed at the bottom of this page, in [[#Subgroup extensions]].  


== Catakleismic ==
== Catakleismic ==
{{Main| Catakleismic }}
{{Main| Catakleismic }}
Catakleismic tempers out 225/224, the [[marvel comma]], and 4375/4374, the [[ragisma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 72 }} temperament. [[125edo]] and especially [[197edo]] make for excellent tunings.
Catakleismic extends easily with [[prime interval|prime]] [[13/1|13]]. The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this extension is {[[169/168|S13]], [[225/224|S15 = S25⋅S26⋅S27]], [[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]], [[676/675|S26 = S13/S15]], [[729/728|S27]])}.


=== 7-limit ===
=== 7-limit ===
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7705{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7705{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.332 -2.461 +0.126 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.332 -2.461 +0.126 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.732{{c}} -->


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==== 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup ====
==== 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup ====
The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this temperament is {[[169/168|S13]], [[225/224|S15 = S25*S26*S27]], [[325/324|S10/S12 = S25*S26]], ([[625/624|S25]], [[676/675|S26 = S13/S15]], [[729/728|S27]])}.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13


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* WE: ~2 = 1200.7838{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9478{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7838{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9478{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7939{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7939{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8865{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 125f, 197f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53, 72, 125f, 197f }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.6524{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8911{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.6524{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8911{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7267{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7267{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.719{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1200.7982{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9482{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7982{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9482{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7491{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7491{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.738{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1199.9590{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0315{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9590{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0315{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0403{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0403{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.042{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 34d, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 34d, 53 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.0797{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0571{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0797{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0571{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0400{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0400{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.036{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 34d, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 34d, 53 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.8102{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8669{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8102{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8669{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6768{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6768{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.653{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 53e, 72 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 53e, 72 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1201.0807{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9246{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0807{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9246{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6700{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6700{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.639{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 53e, 72, 307bcdeeffff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 53e, 72, 307bcdeeffff }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.6575{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7282{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.6575{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7282{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0257{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0257{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.083{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53e }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.8403{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8111{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8403{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8111{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0652{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0652{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.118{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 34d, 53e }}
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* WE: ~99/70 = 600.2674{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8624{{c}}
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.2674{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8624{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7575{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7575{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~99/70 = 600.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.721{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 72, 322c, 394c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 72, 322c, 394c }}
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* WE: ~55/39 = 600.3582{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9152{{c}}
* WE: ~55/39 = 600.3582{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9152{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7759{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7759{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~55/39 = 600.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.726{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 72 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 72 }}
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* WE: ~17/12 = 600.4210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9282{{c}}
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.4210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9282{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7578{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7578{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~17/12 = 600.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.726{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 38df, 72 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 38df, 72 }}
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* WE: ~17/12 = 600.3763{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8720{{c}}
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.3763{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8720{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7205{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.7205{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~17/12 = 600.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.726{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34dh, 38df, 72 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34dh, 38df, 72 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8293{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.8293{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.979 -2.167 -18.388 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.979 -2.167 -18.388 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.473{{c}} -->


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.7353{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5055{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7353{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5055{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5546{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5546{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.576{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1201.8360{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0958{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1201.8360{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0958{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6829{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.6829{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.611{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1199.7816{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3653{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7816{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3653{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.4070{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.4070{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.423{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1196.7615{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.7353{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1196.7615{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.7353{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 319.4059{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 319.4059{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.595{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 11b, 15 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 11b, 15 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1204.5534{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.9247{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1204.5534{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.9247{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.1686{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.1686{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 314.730{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4e, 19, 42bcd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4e, 19, 42bcd }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1204.4937{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.2241{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1204.4937{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.2241{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.4748{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.4748{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 315.044{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4ef, 19 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4ef, 19 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1201.6569{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.0942{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1201.6569{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.0942{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.8547{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.8547{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.656{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19e, 34e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19e, 34e }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1201.9324{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.8090{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1201.9324{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.8090{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5170{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.5170{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.298{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19e, 34e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19e, 34e }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.2411{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.2411{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.492 +4.892 +12.281 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.492 +4.892 +12.281 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.267{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1197.0368{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.4956{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1197.0368{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.4956{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.2672{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.2672{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.282{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1196.8961{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3837{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1196.8961{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3837{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.1621{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 318.1621{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.9159{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 34d, 49f, 83def, 132bcddeefff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 34d, 49f, 83def, 132bcddeefff }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1220{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1220{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.777 -0.704 +0.391 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.777 -0.704 +0.391 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.121{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1200.0980{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1879{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0980{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1879{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1623{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1623{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.162{{c}} -->


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* WE: ~2 = 1200.0936{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1864{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0936{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1864{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1622{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1622{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.162{{c}} -->


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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3071{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3071{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.887 +0.222 +0.370 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.887 +0.222 +0.370 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.314{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 34d, 87, 121, 208, 537b }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 34d, 87, 121, 208, 537b }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.5425{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1901{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5425{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1901{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3020{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3020{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.311{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 53d, 87, 121, 208 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 53d, 87, 121, 208 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.5339{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1882{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5339{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1882{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3028{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.3028{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.311{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 53d, 87, 121, 208 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 34d, 53d, 87, 121, 208 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/32 = 158.6338{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~35/32 = 158.6338{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.651 +0.024 +3.470 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.651 +0.024 +3.470 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~35/32 = 158.649{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 38, 53, 121, 174d, 295d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 38, 53, 121, 174d, 295d }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.8009{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6508{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8009{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6508{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6717{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6717{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.677{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 38, 53, 68, 121e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 38, 53, 68, 121e }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.7952{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6279{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7952{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6279{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6493{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.6493{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/10 = 158.655{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 38f, 53, 121e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 38f, 53, 121e }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6554{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6554{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.910 +0.240 -2.441 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.910 +0.240 -2.441 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.665{{c}} -->


[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.9620{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6210{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9620{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6210{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6445{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6445{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.645{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 49e, 68, 87 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 49e, 68, 87 }}
Line 725: Line 692:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9292{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.5919{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9292{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.5919{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6355{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.6355{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 758.637{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 68, 87 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 68, 87 }}
Line 744: Line 710:
* [[CWE]]: ~63/50 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9129{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0871{{c}})
* [[CWE]]: ~63/50 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9129{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0871{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.478 -1.749 -2.652 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.478 -1.749 -2.652 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~63/50 = 400.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.872{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.128{{c}}) -->


[[Minimax tuning]]:
[[Minimax tuning]]:
Line 758: Line 723:
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43


Music:
; Music
* ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdjhC9i5KF4 Four Short Experiments in Octave Stretched 42edo (Dec 2024)]'' by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdjhC9i5KF4 ''Four Short Experiments in Octave Stretched 42edo''] (2024) by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Line 771: Line 736:
* WE: ~44/35 = 400.1571{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0058{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.1514{{c}})
* WE: ~44/35 = 400.1571{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0058{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.1514{{c}})
* CWE: ~44/35 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9154{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0846{{c}})
* CWE: ~44/35 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9154{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0846{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~44/35 = 400.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.881{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.119{{c}}) -->


Minimax tuning:
Minimax tuning:
Line 792: Line 756:
* WE: ~44/35 = 400.1514{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0785{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0729{{c}})
* WE: ~44/35 = 400.1514{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0785{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0729{{c}})
* CWE: ~44/35 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9896{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0104{{c}})
* CWE: ~44/35 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9896{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0104{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~44/35 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9585{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0415{{c}}) -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 57f, 72, 87, 159 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 57f, 72, 87, 159 }}
Line 808: Line 771:
* WE: ~34/27 = 400.1604{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0353{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.1251{{c}})
* WE: ~34/27 = 400.1604{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0353{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.1251{{c}})
* CWE: ~34/27 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9384{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0616{{c}})
* CWE: ~34/27 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9384{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0616{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~34/27 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9082{{c}} (~21/20 = 83.0918{{c}}) -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15g, 57fg, 72, 159, 231f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15g, 57fg, 72, 159, 231f }}


Badness (Sintel): 0.690
Badness (Sintel): 0.690
== Quadritikleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 15625/15552
{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 4 7 | 0 6 5 4 }}
: mapping generators: ~25/21, ~6/5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~25/21 = 300.0520{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0548{{c}} (~126/125 = 17.0029{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.208 +0.374 -0.832 -0.243 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0301{{c}} (~126/125 = 17.0301{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.225 -1.163 -0.706 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9999{{c}} (~126/125 = 16.9999{{c}}) -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 68, 72, 140, 212, 776cd, 988ccd, 1200ccd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.993
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 385/384, 1375/1372, 6250/6237
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 | 0 6 5 4 -3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.0995{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0298{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9303{{c}})
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9540{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9540{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9247{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9247{{c}}) -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212, 284, 496ce, 780ccdee }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.774
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624, 1375/1372
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 0 | 0 6 5 4 -3 14 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.0985{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0899{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9941{{c}})
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0155{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.0155{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9887{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9887{{c}}) -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.774
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 289/288, 325/324, 385/384, 442/441, 625/624
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 0 10 | 0 6 5 4 -3 14 6 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.1102{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1011{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9909{{c}})
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0155{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.0155{{c}})
<!-- * POTE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9846{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9846{{c}}) -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.651
== Kleiboh ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 1728/1715, 3125/3087
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -12 -9 -7 | 0 18 15 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~42/25
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5290{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.3417{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.471 -0.152 -1.949 +3.914 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.6741{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.178 -1.203 +4.937 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.697{{c}} -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 49, 53 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.93
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 3125/3087
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 -9 -7 -29 | 0 18 15 13 43 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1389{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.1688{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.7840{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.819{{c}} -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49, 53, 102d }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.75
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 176/175, 275/273, 325/324, 540/539
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 -9 -7 -29 -28 | 0 18 15 13 43 42 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1517{{c}}, ~22/13 = 905.1727{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/13 = 905.7801{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~22/13 = 905.813{{c}} -->
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49f, 53, 102df }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.28


== Marfifths ==
== Marfifths ==
The ''marfifths'' temperament (19 & 140) tempers out the [[hemimage comma]], 10976/10935. It splits the interval of a major thirteenth (~10/3) into three marvelous fifth ([[112/75]]) intervals, and uses it for a generator.
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, marfifths tempers out the 10976/10935, the [[hemimage comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 140 }} temperament. It is generated by a marvel fourth of [[75/56]] (or a marvel fifth of [[112/75]]), three of which minus an octave make the hanson generator of ~6/5. Its [[ploidacot]] is zeta-18-cot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 947: Line 791:
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7060{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7060{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.753 -0.724 -0.643 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.753 -0.724 -0.643 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.705{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 121, 140, 579, 719 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 121, 140, 579, 719 }}
Line 963: Line 806:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2484{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7882{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2484{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7882{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6853{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6853{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.684{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 121e, 140, 159, 299 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 121e, 140, 159, 299 }}
Line 979: Line 821:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2747{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.8019{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2747{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.8019{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6883{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6883{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.686{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 121e, 140, 159, 299 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 121e, 140, 159, 299 }}
Line 986: Line 827:


=== Diatessic ===
=== Diatessic ===
The ''diatessic'' temperament (121 & 140) is closely related to the '''diatess tuning''' (generator: 505.727281 cents).
Diatessic may be described as {{nowrap| 121 & 140 }} and is closely related to the Diatess tuning (generator: 505.727281 cents).


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Line 997: Line 838:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7886{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6513{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7886{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6513{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7366{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7366{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.740{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, …, 121, 140, 261, 401 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, …, 121, 140, 261, 401 }}
Line 1,013: Line 853:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7996{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6558{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7996{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.6558{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7366{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7366{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.740{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, …, 121, 140, 261, 401 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, …, 121, 140, 261, 401 }}
Line 1,020: Line 859:


=== Marf ===
=== Marf ===
The ''marf'' temperament (19 & 121) has a POTE generator which strongly approximates the marvelous fifth interval of 112/75.
Marf may be described as {{nowrap| 19 & 121 }}. It has a POTE generator which strongly approximates the marvelous fifth interval of 112/75.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Line 1,031: Line 870:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3198{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.4822{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3198{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.4822{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7607{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7607{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.769{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 102d, 121 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 102d, 121 }}
Line 1,047: Line 885:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3368{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.4919{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3368{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.4919{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7627{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.7627{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~75/56 = 505.771{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 102df, 121 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 102df, 121 }}
Line 1,053: Line 890:
Badness (Sintel): 1.58
Badness (Sintel): 1.58


== Marthirds ==
== Kleiboh ==
The ''marthirds'' temperament (19 & 193) tempers out the breeze comma (laquadru-atruyo comma), [[2460375/2458624]]. It splits the interval of minor tenth (~12/5) into four marvelous major third ([[56/45]]) intervals, and uses it for a generator.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 2460375/2458624
[[Comma list]]: 1728/1715, 3125/3087


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 -4 -19 | 0 24 20 69 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -12 -9 -7 | 0 18 15 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~56/45
: mapping generators: ~2, ~42/25


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1662{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.3041{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5290{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.3417{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.166 +0.347 -0.896 +0.000 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.471 -0.152 -1.949 +3.914 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2552{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.6741{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.171 -1.209 -0.214 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.178 -1.203 +4.937 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.252{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, …, 193, 212, 617c, 829c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 49, 53 }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.64
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.93


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 1375/1372, 15625/15552, 19712/19683
Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 3125/3087


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -4 -19 -43 | 0 24 20 69 147 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 -9 -7 -29 | 0 18 15 13 43 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1189{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2942{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1389{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.1688{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2580{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~42/25 = 905.7840{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.257{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, , 193, 212, 405, 617c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49, 53, 102d }}


Badness (Sintel): 2.50
Badness (Sintel): 1.75


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 325/324, 625/624, 1375/1372, 19712/19683
Comma list: 176/175, 275/273, 325/324, 540/539


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -4 -19 -43 -14 | 0 24 20 69 147 56 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 -9 -7 -29 -28 | 0 18 15 13 43 42 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2154{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.3236{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.1517{{c}}, ~22/13 = 905.1727{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2580{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~22/13 = 905.7801{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.256{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, , 193, 212, 405f, 617cff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49f, 53, 102df }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.81
Badness (Sintel): 1.28
 
== Quartkeenlig ==
Quartkeenlig uses a generator in the 11-limit that is 33/32~36/35 tempered together, and is called so because it tempers out the [[quartisma]] by virtue of five 33/32's being with 7/6, keenanisma, 385/384, tempering 33/32 and 36/35 together, and liganellus comma (6250/6237). It can also be viewed as a regular temperament interpretation of [[23edo and octave stretching|stretched 23edo]].


== Quadritikleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 117649/116640
[[Comma list]]: 2401/2400, 15625/15552


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 1 | 0 36 30 41 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 4 7 | 0 6 5 4 }}
: mapping generator: ~2, ~36/35
: mapping generators: ~25/21, ~6/5


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2825{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8528{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~25/21 = 300.0520{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0548{{c}} (~126/125 = 17.0029{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.282 +0.745 -0.448 -1.579 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.208 +0.374 -0.832 -0.243 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8476{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0301{{c}} (~126/125 = 17.0301{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.558 -0.886 -2.074 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.225 -1.163 -0.706 }}
<!-- * [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8562{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 68, 91, 159, 386d, 545dd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 68, 72, 140, 212, 776cd, 988ccd, 1200ccd }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.69
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.993


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 385/384, 6250/6237, 67228/66825
Comma list: 385/384, 1375/1372, 6250/6237


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 1 5 | 0 36 30 41 -35 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 | 0 6 5 4 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2526{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8534{{c}}
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.0995{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0298{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9303{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8446{{c}}
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 316.9540{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9540{{c}})
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~33/32 = 52.8524{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 91, 159, 386d, 545dd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212, 284, 496ce, 780ccdee }}


Badness (Sintel): 2.86
Badness (Sintel): 0.774


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624, 16807/16731
Comma list: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624, 1375/1372
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 0 | 0 6 5 4 -3 14 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.0985{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0899{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9941{{c}})
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0155{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.0155{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.774
 
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 289/288, 325/324, 385/384, 442/441, 625/624


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 1 5 0 | 0 36 30 41 -35 84 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 4 7 17 0 10 | 0 6 5 4 -3 14 6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2564{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8568{{c}}
* WE: ~25/21 = 300.1102{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1011{{c}} (~100/99 = 16.9909{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8479{{c}}
* CWE: ~25/21 = 300.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0155{{c}} (~100/99 = 17.0155{{c}})
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~33/32 = 52.8562{{c}} -->
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 72, 140, 212g }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 159, 386d, 545ddf }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.651


Badness (Sintel): 1.97
== Marthirds ==
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, marthirds tempers out 2460375/2458624, the [[breeze comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 193 }} temperament. It is generated by a marvel-comma-flat classical major third, [[56/45]], four of which minus an octave make the hanson generator of [[6/5]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is zeta-24-cot.  


== Novemkleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 40353607/40310784
[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 2460375/2458624


{{Mapping|legend=1| 9 0 9 11 | 0 6 5 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -6 -4 -19 | 0 24 20 69 }}
: mapping generators: ~2592/2401, ~6/5
: mapping generators: ~2, ~56/45


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3488{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0413{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3437{{c}})
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.1662{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.3041{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.139 +0.293 -0.968 +0.259 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.166 +0.347 -0.896 +0.000 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0260{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3593{{c}})
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2552{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.201 -1.184 -0.003 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.171 -1.209 -0.214 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.005{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.338{{c}}) -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 261, 333, 405, 477c, 882c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, , 193, 212, 617c, 829c }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.90
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.64


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 1375/1372, 4000/3993, 15625/15552
Comma list: 1375/1372, 15625/15552, 19712/19683


Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 9 11 24 | 0 6 5 6 3 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -4 -19 -43 | 0 24 20 69 147 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~250/231 = 133.3465{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0416{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3486{{c}})
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1189{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2942{{c}}
* CWE: ~250/231 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0264{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3597{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2580{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~250/231 = 133.333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.010{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.343{{c}}) -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 261, 333, 405, 882c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, , 193, 212, 405, 617c }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.71
Badness (Sintel): 2.50


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 325/324, 625/624, 1375/1372, 4000/3993
Comma list: 325/324, 625/624, 1375/1372, 19712/19683


Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 9 11 24 0 | 0 6 5 6 3 14 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -6 -4 -19 -43 -14 | 0 24 20 69 147 56 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~250/231 = 133.3385{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0978{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.4208{{c}})
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2154{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.3236{{c}}
* CWE: ~250/231 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0910{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.4243{{c}})
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~56/45 = 379.2580{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~250/231 = 133.333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.086{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.419{{c}}) -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 189f, 261, 333, 738cf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, , 193, 212, 405f, 617cff }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.61
Badness (Sintel): 1.81


== Sqrtphi ==
== Sqrtphi ==
{{Main| Sqrtphi }}
{{Main| Sqrtphi }}


The just value of sqrt (φ) is 416.545 cents.  
Sqrtphi tempers out 16875/16807, the [[mirkwai comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 49 & 72 }} temperament. The just value of sqrt(φ) is 416.545 cents, and this temperament gives a close approximation of it.
 
Note that in the data below, the generator is given as its [[octave complement]], which stands in for [[~]][[11/7]] from the [[11-limit]] onwards. Five generators octave reduced make the hanson generator of ~[[6/5]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is 19-sheared 30-cot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 1,227: Line 1,070:
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~196/125 = 783.4009{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~196/125 = 783.4009{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.072 -1.291 +0.408 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.072 -1.291 +0.408 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~196/125 = 783.397{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 23d, 49, 72, 193, 265 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 23d, 49, 72, 193, 265 }}
Line 1,243: Line 1,085:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0514{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4294{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0514{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4294{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3975{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3975{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.396{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23de, 49, 72, 193, 265 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23de, 49, 72, 193, 265 }}
Line 1,259: Line 1,100:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9314{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3705{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9314{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3705{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4134{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4134{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.415{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23deff, 49f, 72, 121, 193 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23deff, 49f, 72, 121, 193 }}
Line 1,275: Line 1,115:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9324{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3706{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9324{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3706{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4129{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4129{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.415{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23deffgg, 49fg, 72, 121, 193 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 23deffgg, 49fg, 72, 121, 193 }}
Line 1,291: Line 1,130:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8567{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3262{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.8567{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.3262{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4176{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.4176{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 783.420{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49fg, 72, 121, 193 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 49fg, 72, 121, 193 }}


Badness (Sintel): 0.897
Badness (Sintel): 0.897
== Quartkeenlig ==
Named by [[Eliora]] in 2022, quartkeenlig uses a generator that is a quartertone of [[33/32]][[~]][[36/35]] tempered together in the [[11-limit]], and is called so because it tempers out the [[quartisma]] by virtue of five 33/32's being with [[7/6]], keenanisma, [[385/384]], tempering 33/32 and 36/35 together, and liganellus comma (6250/6237). As six quartertones make the hanson generator of ~[[6/5]], its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-36-cot. It can also be viewed as a regular temperament interpretation of [[23edo and octave stretching|stretched 23edo]].
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 117649/116640
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 1 | 0 36 30 41 }}
: mapping generator: ~2, ~36/35
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.2825{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8528{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.282 +0.745 -0.448 -1.579 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8476{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.558 -0.886 -2.074 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 68, 91, 159, 386d, 545dd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.69
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 385/384, 6250/6237, 67228/66825
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 1 5 | 0 36 30 41 -35 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2526{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8534{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8446{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 91, 159, 386d, 545dd }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.86
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624, 16807/16731
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 1 5 0 | 0 36 30 41 -35 84 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2564{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8568{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~36/35 = 52.8479{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 68, 159, 386d, 545ddf }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.97
== Novemkleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 15625/15552, 40353607/40310784
{{Mapping|legend=1| 9 0 9 11 | 0 6 5 6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2592/2401, ~6/5
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3488{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0413{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3437{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.139 +0.293 -0.968 +0.259 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0260{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3593{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.201 -1.184 -0.003 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 72, 261, 333, 405, 477c, 882c }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.90
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 1375/1372, 4000/3993, 15625/15552
Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 9 11 24 | 0 6 5 6 3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~250/231 = 133.3465{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0416{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3486{{c}})
* CWE: ~250/231 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0264{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.3597{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 261, 333, 405, 882c }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.71
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 325/324, 625/624, 1375/1372, 4000/3993
Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 9 11 24 0 | 0 6 5 6 3 14 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~250/231 = 133.3385{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0978{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.4208{{c}})
* CWE: ~250/231 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0910{{c}} (~36/35 = 50.4243{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 189f, 261, 333, 738cf }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.61


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
=== Kleismic (2.3.5.13) a.k.a. cata ===
=== Kleismic (2.3.5.13) a.k.a. cata ===
Hanson lends itself nicely to this extension in the 2.3.5.13 subgroup, as the hemitwelfth, reached by three generator steps, can be interpreted as [[26/15]]. Notice 15625/15552 = ([[325/324]])([[625/624]]) and 325/324 = (625/624)([[676/675]]). The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of the temperament is {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25*S26]], ([[625/624|S25]],) [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]}. For the high-limit version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[thunderclysmic]].
Hanson lends itself nicely to this extension in the 2.3.5.13 subgroup, as the hemitwelfth, reached by three generator steps, can be interpreted as [[26/15]]. Notice 15625/15552 = ([[325/324]])([[625/624]]) and 325/324 = (625/624)([[676/675]]). The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of the temperament is {[[325/324|S10/S12 = S25⋅S26]], ([[625/624|S25]]), [[676/675|S13/S15 = S26]]}. For the high-limit version of cata with a 1\5 period, see [[thunderclysmic]].


Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
Line 1,309: Line 1,245:
Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1076{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.1210{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0920{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.1110{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0756{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 140, 193, 246 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 140, 193, 246 }}
Line 1,328: Line 1,262:
Optimal tunings:
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2924{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0998{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2924{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0998{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0452{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 317.0452{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 299l, 352fl, 405fl, 458fl, 511cfll, 564cffll }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 19, 34, 53, 299l, 352fl, 405fl, 458fl, 511cfll, 564cffll }}