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| Name = just major sixth, classic(al) major sixth, ptolemaic major sixth
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| Color name = y6, yo 6th
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'''5/3'''
In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''5/3''' is the '''just major sixth''', '''classic(al) major sixth''', or '''ptolemaic major sixth'''<ref>For reference, see [[5-limit]]. </ref> of about 884.4¢. It represents the difference between the 5th and 3rd [[harmonic]]s, and appears in just chords such as 3:4:5 (a 2nd inversion major triad). Its inversion is [[6/5]], the 5-limit minor third. It differs from the Pythagorean major sixth of [[27/16]] (about 905.9¢) by the syntonic comma of [[81/80]] (about 21.5¢). This means that in systems which temper out the syntonic comma, such as [[12edo]] and [[meantone]] systems, 5/3 and [[27/16]] are conflated.
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884.35871 cents
5/3 has a more mellow sound than 27/16, owing to its simpler beating pattern as well as its smaller size.


[[File:jid_5_3_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3]] [[:File:jid_5_3_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3|sound sample]]
== Approximation ==
5/3 is very accurately approximated by [[19edo]] (14\19), and hence the [[enneadecal]] temperament.  
{{Interval edo approximation|5/3}}


In [[5-limit|5-limit]] [[Just_intonation|Just Intonation]], 5/3 is a major sixth of about 884.4¢. It represents the difference between the 5th and 3rd overtones of the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]], and appears in just chords such as 3:4:5 (a 2nd inversion major triad). Its inversion is [[6/5|6/5]], the 5-limit minor third. It differs from the Pythagorean major sixth of [[27/16|27/16]] (about 905.9¢) by the syntonic comma of [[81/80|81/80]] (about 21.5¢). This means that in systems which temper out the syntonic comma, such as [[12edo|12edo]] and [[Meantone|meantone]] systems, 5/3 and 27/16 are conflated.
== See also ==
* [[6/5]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[9/5]] – its [[twelfth complement]]
* [[Ed5/3]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


5/3 has a more mellow sound than 27/16, owing to its relative smallness.
== Notes ==
<references/>


See: [[Gallery_of_Just_Intervals|Gallery of Just Intervals]]     [[Category:5-limit]]
[[Category:Sixth]]
[[Category:interval]]
[[Category:Major sixth]]
[[Category:just_interval]]
[[Category:Over-3 intervals]]
[[Category:ratio]]
[[Category:Tritave-reduced harmonics]]
[[Category:Taxicab-2 intervals]]

Latest revision as of 13:11, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 5/3
Factorization 3-1 × 5
Monzo [0 -1 1
Size in cents 884.3587¢
Names just major sixth,
classic(al) major sixth,
ptolemaic major sixth
Color name y6, yo 6th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M6}^{5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 3.90689
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 4.64386
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 8

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In 5-limit just intonation, 5/3 is the just major sixth, classic(al) major sixth, or ptolemaic major sixth[1] of about 884.4¢. It represents the difference between the 5th and 3rd harmonics, and appears in just chords such as 3:4:5 (a 2nd inversion major triad). Its inversion is 6/5, the 5-limit minor third. It differs from the Pythagorean major sixth of 27/16 (about 905.9¢) by the syntonic comma of 81/80 (about 21.5¢). This means that in systems which temper out the syntonic comma, such as 12edo and meantone systems, 5/3 and 27/16 are conflated.

5/3 has a more mellow sound than 27/16, owing to its simpler beating pattern as well as its smaller size.

Approximation

5/3 is very accurately approximated by 19edo (14\19), and hence the enneadecal temperament.

Edo approximations for 5/3 (884.36 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
4 3\4 900.00 +15.64 +5.21
15 11\15 880.00 -4.36 -5.45
19 14\19 884.21 -0.15 -0.23
23 17\23 886.96 +2.60 +4.98
34 25\34 882.35 -2.01 -5.68
38 28\38 884.21 -0.15 -0.47
42 31\42 885.71 +1.36 +4.74
46 34\46 886.96 +2.60 +9.96
53 39\53 883.02 -1.34 -5.92
57 42\57 884.21 -0.15 -0.70
61 45\61 885.25 +0.89 +4.51
65 48\65 886.15 +1.80 +9.72
72 53\72 883.33 -1.03 -6.15
76 56\76 884.21 -0.15 -0.94
80 59\80 885.00 +0.64 +4.28

See also

Notes

  1. For reference, see 5-limit.