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:: I also think "ha/ba" is a decent enough replacement for the "la/sa" pair. It uses consonants no color uses, it's derived from italian "alta/bassa" (except with "h" added for a consonant, also invoking "high") which refers to both sets' fifth-shift and pitch relative to the Central row. I won't get to check for conflicts with "b" as the flat sign nor "8va/8vb" for a while, however. [[User:Kaiveran|Kaiveran]] ([[User talk:Kaiveran|talk]]) 02:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

::: Sawa 2nd becomes bw2, which looks like a flat wa 2nd. IMO a little too confusing. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 10:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

: After lengthy discussion in XA Discord, fo/fu/fa and so/su/sa didn't seem clearly better than the current system, which is rather entrenched at this point. But the suffix "-ti" has been officially adopted. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

== Colorspeak names for detempered edos? ==

Za5 could refer to 5edo detempered using the 2.3.7 subgroup, making 1/1 8/7 4/3 3/2 7/4 2/1. Wa5 would be 1/1 9/8 4/3 3/2 16/9 2/1. Yaza19 would be 19edo detempered using the 2.3.5.7 subgroup.

If there were a rigorous algorithm for finding the "best" ratio for a certain edostep, then the resulting scale could be *the* yaza19 (or whatever) scale. But one can prioritize minimizing the odd limit vs. maximizing the accuracy differently. Thus there are multiple plausible yaza19 scales, and "yaza19" would refer to a category of scales, not just one. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

== Colorspeak tensome ==

Colorspeak's easy and colorspeak's pretty

Colorspeak's pithy/pyth-y and colorspeak's witty

Even if people insist otherwise,

Colorspeak is a delight to my eyes || 1 ||

Color notation is fit for the sages,

Simple and easy and good for all ages,

Colorspeak makes it clear what music is,

Learning it makes you a harmony whiz || 2 ||

Porcupine, magic, vavoom and mavila,

Meantone and schismic and bleu and godzilla,

Temperament names with no logic or rhyme,

Learning all those takes up way too much time || 3 ||

I wanted to find out the perfect notation,

I made many friends with the same dedication,

The prospects were looking so terribly bleak,

Till one day I stumbled upon colorspeak || 4 ||

Colorspeak helps us pursue meditation,

Nothing's effective like color notation,

My favorite yoga pose beats out the rest

Yazalathasana's simply the best || 5 ||

Cherries make every fruit salad more pleasant,

Roses and orchids enrich every present

Honeymoon nights are enriched by the moon,

Color enriches the score of my tune || 6 ||

If you're a choral or barbershop singer,

And you're not sure, on what pitch you should linger,

Common notation will not give a clue,

But color notation will truly help you || 7 ||

Color notation is great for conductors,

Musical theorists and college instructors,

No fuss over pental and septimal thirds,

Colorspeak has much more elegant words || 8 ||

Learning two new words is all you need to do,

Yazalathasana, followed by guru,

To notate harmonics, turn a into o,

That's almost all that a guru must know || 9 ||

If you're confused about music notation,

These ten little stanzas will ease your frustration,

Notational matters will not leave you stressed,

'Cause color notation is simply the best || 10 ||

-- Praveen Venkataramana (2024)

--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 20:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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 :: I also think "ha/ba" is a decent enough replacement for the "la/sa" pair. It uses consonants no color uses, it's derived from italian "alta/bassa" (except with "h" added for a consonant, also invoking "high") which refers to both sets' fifth-shift and pitch relative to the Central row. I won't get to check for conflicts with "b" as the flat sign nor "8va/8vb" for a while, however. [[User:Kaiveran|Kaiveran]] ([[User talk:Kaiveran|talk]]) 02:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
 ::: Sawa 2nd becomes bw2, which looks like a flat wa 2nd. IMO a little too confusing. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 10:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
+: After lengthy discussion in XA Discord, fo/fu/fa and so/su/sa didn't seem clearly better than the current system, which is rather entrenched at this point. But the suffix "-ti" has been officially adopted. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Colorspeak names for detempered edos? ==
+Za5 could refer to 5edo detempered using the 2.3.7 subgroup, making 1/1 8/7 4/3 3/2 7/4 2/1. Wa5 would be 1/1 9/8 4/3 3/2 16/9 2/1. Yaza19 would be 19edo detempered using the 2.3.5.7 subgroup.
+If there were a rigorous algorithm for finding the "best" ratio for a certain edostep, then the resulting scale could be *the* yaza19 (or whatever) scale. But one can prioritize minimizing the odd limit vs. maximizing the accuracy differently. Thus there are multiple plausible yaza19 scales, and "yaza19" would refer to a category of scales, not just one. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Colorspeak tensome ==
+Colorspeak's easy and colorspeak's pretty<br>
+Colorspeak's pithy/pyth-y and colorspeak's witty<br>
+Even if people insist otherwise,<br>
+Colorspeak is a delight to my eyes || 1 ||<br>
+Color notation is fit for the sages,<br>
+Simple and easy and good for all ages,<br>
+Colorspeak makes it clear what music is,<br>
+Learning it makes you a harmony whiz || 2 ||
+Porcupine, magic, vavoom and mavila,<br>
+Meantone and schismic and bleu and godzilla,<br>
+Temperament names with no logic or rhyme,<br>
+Learning all those takes up way too much time || 3 ||
+I wanted to find out the perfect notation,<br>
+I made many friends with the same dedication,<br>
+The prospects were looking so terribly bleak,<br>
+Till one day I stumbled upon colorspeak || 4 ||
+Colorspeak helps us pursue meditation,<br>
+Nothing's effective like color notation,<br>
+My favorite yoga pose beats out the rest<br>
+Yazalathasana's simply the best || 5 ||
+Cherries make every fruit salad more pleasant,<br>
+Roses and orchids enrich every present<br>
+Honeymoon nights are enriched by the moon,<br>
+Color enriches the score of my tune || 6 ||
+If you're a choral or barbershop singer,<br>
+And you're not sure, on what pitch you should linger,<br>
+Common notation will not give a clue,<br>
+But color notation will truly help you || 7 ||
+Color notation is great for conductors,<br>
+Musical theorists and college instructors,<br>
+No fuss over pental and septimal thirds,<br>
+Colorspeak has much more elegant words || 8 ||
+Learning two new words is all you need to do,<br>
+Yazalathasana, followed by guru,<br>
+To notate harmonics, turn a into o,<br>
+That's almost all that a guru must know || 9 ||
+If you're confused about music notation,<br>
+These ten little stanzas will ease your frustration,<br>
+Notational matters will not leave you stressed,<br>
+'Cause color notation is simply the best || 10 ||
+-- Praveen Venkataramana (2024)
+--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 20:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)