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The '''equal division of the 5th harmonic''' ('''ed5''') is a [[tuning]] obtained by dividing the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] in a certain number of [[equal]] steps.  
An '''equal division of the 5th harmonic''' ('''ed5''') is a [[tuning]] obtained by dividing the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] in a certain number of [[equal]] steps.  


== Theory ==
The 5th harmonic, quintuple, or pentave, is particularly wide as far as [[equivalence]]s go, as there are at absolute most about 4.8 instances of the 5th harmonic within the [[human hearing range]]. If one does indeed deal with equivalence of the 5th harmonic, this range restriction is a crucial consideration.  
The 5th harmonic is particularly wide as far as [[equivalence]]s go. There are (at absolute most) ~4.8 pentaves within the human hearing range; imagine if that were the case with octaves. If one does indeed deal with pentave equivalence, this range restriction is a crucial consideration. Pentave equivalence itself may have a basis in Western music seeing as minor chords have an octave of 5 in their root (i.e. 10:12:15).


One way to treat 5/1 as an equivalence is by eliminating the primes 2 and 3. The most fundamental chord in this paradigm is 5:7:11. This chord can be approximated in a 5.7.11 (or "no-twos-or-threes [[11-limit]]") subgroup [[regular temperament]] by eliminating the comma 859375/823543, equating a stack of 7 [[7/5]] generators with [[11/5]]. Other equivalences that could be used for such "no-two-or-threes" music include [[ed11/5|equal divisions of 11/5]] and [[ed11/7|equal divisions of 11/7]].
One way to treat 5/1 as an equivalence is by eliminating the [[prime harmonics|primes]] [[2/1|2]] and [[3/1|3]]. The most fundamental chord in this paradigm is [[5:7:11]]. This chord can be approximated in a 5.7.11-subgroup [[regular temperament]] by eliminating the comma 859375/823543, equating a stack of seven [[7/5]] generators with [[11/5]]. Other equivalences that could be used for such no-2's no-3's music include [[ed11/5|equal divisions of 11/5]] and [[ed11/7|equal divisions of 11/7]].


The quintessential example of a pentave based tuning is hyperpyth (see [[17ed5]]). However, perhaps the more common reason to use these scales is in approximation with lower harmonic factors than 5. This approach is highlighted by Hieronymus ([[20ed5]]) which itself is a zeta peak tuning (not "no-fives", full on zeta). Other reasons for taking the ''n''-th root of 5 include finding temperaments like [[orwell]], [[meantone]], and [[thuja]]. This approach can of course be used indiscriminately.
The quintessential example of a 5th-harmonic based tuning is [[hyperpyth]] (see [[17ed5]]). However, perhaps the more common reason to use these systems is in approximation with lower harmonic factors than 5. This approach is highlighted by Hieronymus ([[20ed5]]) which itself is a zeta peak tuning (not "no-5's", full on zeta).  


Some equal divisions of the pentave are known by alternate names or have special interest:
== As generator chains for temperaments ==
One reason for taking the ''n''-th root of 5 include finding temperaments like [[orwell]], [[meantone]], and [[thuja]]. This approach can of course be used indiscriminately. The ed5's serve as generator chains for


* [[3ed5]] [[orwell]] generator
* [[3ed5]] [[orwell]] generator
* [[4ed5]] [[meantone]] generator
* [[4ed5]] [[meantone]] generator
* [[5ed5]] [[2L_7s|thuja]] generator
* [[5ed5]] [[thuja]] generator
* [[6ed5]] [[Trienstonic clan #Uncle|uncle]] generator
* [[6ed5]] [[uncle]] generator
* [[8ed5]] [[mohajira]] generator
* [[8ed5]] [[mohajira]] generator
* [[Hyperpyth]] tuning (e.g. [[17ed5]])
* [[Hyperpyth]] tuning (e.g. [[17ed5]])
* [[20ed5]] Hieronymus Tuning
* [[20ed5]] Hieronymus Tuning
* [[25ed5]] (Stockhausen, McLaren)
* [[25ed5]] Stockhausen, McLaren


== Individual pages for ed5's ==
== Individual pages for ed5's ==
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* [[116ed5|116]], [[139ed5|139]], [[175ed5|175]], [[256ed5|256]]
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== Ed5-edo correspondence ==
== Ed5–edo correspondence ==
Following ed5's (up to 339) contain good correspondences to edo tunings<ref>Edo with relative error of 5th harmonic below 1/3</ref>.
Following ed5's (up to 339) contain good correspondences to edo tunings<ref>Edo with relative error of 5th harmonic below 1/3</ref>.


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| [[7ed5]]
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| [[3edo]]
| [[3edo]]
| 7ed5 is 3edo with ~5.9 cent compressed octaves. <br>Equivalently, 3edo is 7ed5 with pentaves stretched by ~13.7 cents. <br>Patent vals match through the 67-limit.
| 7ed5 is 3edo with ~5.9 cent compressed octaves. Equivalently, 3edo is 7ed5 with pentaves stretched by ~13.7 cents. Patent vals match through the 67-limit.
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| [[9ed5]]
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* [[Pentave Reduced Subharmonics]]
* [[Pentave Reduced Subharmonics]]
* [[Relative errors of small ED5s]]
* [[Relative errors of small ED5s]]
* http://www.nonoctave.com/tuning/fifth_harmonic.html


[[Category:Equal-step tuning]]
== External links ==
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* [http://www.nonoctave.com/tuning/fifth_harmonic.html| Nonoctave.com: tuning: equal division of the fifth harmonic]
[[category:Nonoctave]]
 
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[[Category:Lists of scales]]
[[Category:Pentave]]
[[Category:Pentave]]


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