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{{Infobox ET}}
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{{EDO intro|65}}
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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
65et can be characterized as the temperament which [[tempering out|tempers out]] 32805/32768 ([[schisma]]), 78732/78125 ([[sensipent comma]]), 393216/390625 ([[würschmidt comma]]), and {{monzo| -13 17 -6 }} ([[graviton]]). In the [[7-limit]], there are two different maps; the first is {{val| 65 103 151 '''182''' }} (65), tempering out [[126/125]], [[245/243]] and [[686/675]], so that it [[support]]s [[sensi]], and the second is {{val| 65 103 151 '''183''' }} (65d), tempering out [[225/224]], [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]] and [[5120/5103]], so that it supports [[garibaldi]]. In both cases, the tuning privileges the [[5-limit]] over the 7-limit, as the 5-limit of 65 is quite accurate. The same can be said for the two different versions of 7-limit [[würschmidt]] temperament (wurschmidt and worschmidt) these two mappings provide.
65et can be characterized as the temperament which [[tempering out|tempers out]] 32805/32768 ([[schisma]]), 78732/78125 ([[sensipent comma]]), 393216/390625 ([[würschmidt comma]]), and {{monzo| -13 17 -6 }} ([[graviton]]). In the [[7-limit]], there are two different maps; the first is {{val| 65 103 151 '''182''' }} (65), tempering out [[126/125]], [[245/243]] and [[686/675]], so that it [[support]]s [[sensi]], and the second is {{val| 65 103 151 '''183''' }} (65d), tempering out [[225/224]], [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]] and [[5120/5103]], so that it supports [[garibaldi]]. In both cases, the tuning privileges the [[5-limit]] over the 7-limit, as the 5-limit of 65 is quite accurate. The same can be said for the two different versions of 7-limit [[würschmidt]] temperament (wurschmidt and worschmidt) these two mappings provide.


65edo approximates the intervals [[3/2]], [[5/4]], [[11/8]], [[19/16]], [[23/16]], [[31/16]] and [[47/32]] well, so that it does a good job representing the 2.3.5.11.19.23.31.47 [[just intonation subgroup]]. To this one may want to add [[17/16]], [[29/16]] and [[43/32]], giving the [[47-limit]] no-7's no-13's no-37's no-41's subgroup 2.3.5.11.17.19.23.29.31.43.47. In this sense it is a tuning of [[schismic]]/[[nestoria]] that focuses on the very primes that [[53edo]] neglects and that instead elegantly connects primes 7, 13, 37, and 41 to nestoria. Also of interest is the [[19-limit]] [[k*N subgroups|2*65 subgroup]] 2.3.5.49.11.91.119.19, on which 65 has the same tuning and commas as the [[zeta]] edo [[130edo]].
65edo approximates the intervals [[3/2]], [[5/4]], [[11/8]], [[19/16]], [[23/16]], [[31/16]] and [[47/32]] well, so that it does a good job representing the 2.3.5.11.19.23.31.47 [[just intonation subgroup]]. To this one may want to add [[17/16]], [[29/16]] and [[43/32]], giving the [[47-limit]] no-7's no-13's no-37's no-41's subgroup 2.3.5.11.17.19.23.29.31.43.47. In this sense it is a tuning of [[schismic]]/[[nestoria]] that focuses on the very primes that [[53edo]] neglects (which instead elegantly connects primes 7, 13, 37, and 41 to nestoria). Also of interest is the [[19-limit]] [[k*N subgroups|2*65 subgroup]] 2.3.5.49.11.91.119.19, on which 65 has the same tuning and commas as the [[zeta]] edo [[130edo]].


=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
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=== Subsets and supersets ===
=== Subsets and supersets ===
65edo contains [[13edo]] as a subset. The offset between a just perfect fifth at 702 cents and the 13edo superfifth at 738.5 cents, is approximately 2 degrees of 65edo. Therefore, an instrument fretted to 13edo, with open strings tuned to 3-limit intervals such as 4/3, 3/2, 9/8, 16/9 etc, will approximate a subset of 65edo. For an example of this, see [[Andrew Heathwaite]]'s composition [https://soundcloud.com/andrew_heathwaite/rubble-a-xenuke-unfolded ''Rubble: a Xenuke Unfolded''].
65edo contains [[5edo]] and [[13edo]] as subsets. The offset between a just perfect fifth at 702 cents and the 13edo superfifth at 738.5 cents, is approximately 2 degrees of 65edo. Therefore, an instrument fretted to 13edo, with open strings tuned to 3-limit intervals such as 4/3, 3/2, 9/8, 16/9 etc, will approximate a subset of 65edo. For an example of this, see [[Andrew Heathwaite]]'s composition [https://soundcloud.com/andrew_heathwaite/rubble-a-xenuke-unfolded ''Rubble: a Xenuke Unfolded''].


[[130edo]], which doubles its, corrects its approximation to harmonics 7 and 13.
[[130edo]], which doubles its, corrects its approximation to harmonics 7 and 13.
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== Notation ==
== Notation ==
=== Ups and downs notation ===
=== Ups and downs notation ===
Using [[Helmholtz–Ellis]] accidentals, 65edo can also be notated using [[ups and downs notation]]:
65edo can be notated with ups and downs, spoken as up, dup, trup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, trud, dupflat etc.
{{Sharpness-sharp6a}}
 
Half-sharps and half-flats can be used to avoid triple arrows:
{{Sharpness-sharp6b}}
 
[[Alternative symbols for ups and downs notation#Sharp-6| Alternative ups and downs]] have arrows borrowed from extended [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]]:
{{Sharpness-sharp6}}
{{Sharpness-sharp6}}


In some cases, certain notes may be best notated using semi- and sesquisharps and flats with arrows:
If double arrows are not desirable, arrows can be attached to quarter-tone accidentals:
{{Sharpness-sharp6-qt}}
{{Sharpness-sharp6-qt}}


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default [[File:65-EDO_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg]]
default [[File:65-EDO_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg]]
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== Approximation to JI ==
=== Zeta peak index ===
{{ZPI
| zpi = 334
| steps = 65.0158450885860
| step size = 18.4570391781413
| tempered height = 7.813349
| pure height = 7.642373
| integral = 1.269821
| gap = 16.514861
| octave = 1199.70754657919
| consistent = 6
| distinct = 6
}}


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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| 4/3
| 4/3
| [[Helmholtz]] / [[nestoria]] / [[photia]]
| [[Helmholtz (temperament)|Helmholtz]] / [[nestoria]] / [[photia]]
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| 1
| 1
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| 498.46<br>(18.46)
| 498.46<br>(18.46)
| 4/3<br>(81/80)
| 4/3<br>(81/80)
| [[Pental (temperament)|Pental]]
| [[Quintile]]
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<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
== Zeta properties ==
=== Zeta peak index ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! colspan="3" | Tuning
! colspan="3" | Strength
! colspan="2" | Closest EDO
! colspan="2" | Integer limit
|-
! ZPI
! Steps per octave
! Step size (cents)
! Height
! Integral
! Gap
! EDO
! Octave (cents)
! Consistent
! Distinct
|-
| [[334zpi]]
| 65.0158450885860
| 18.4570391781413
| 7.813349
| 1.269821
| 16.514861
| 65edo
| 1199.70754657919
| 6
| 6
|}


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
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[[Lumatone mapping for 65edo]]
[[Lumatone mapping for 65edo]]


== Notes ==
== Music ==
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; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W5PXWFduPco ''microtonal improvisation in 65edo''] (2025).


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