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Temperaments of the '''sensipent family''' temper out the [[sensipent comma]], 78732/78125, also known as medium semicomma. The head of this family is sensipent i.e. the 5-limit version of [[sensi]], generated by the naiadic interval of tempered 162/125. Two generators make 5/3, seven make harmonic 6 and nine make harmonic 10. Its [[ploidacot]] is beta-heptacot ([[pergen]] (P8, ccP5/7)) and its color name is Sepguti.  
Temperaments of the '''sensipent family''' temper out the [[sensipent comma]], 78732/78125, also known as medium semicomma. The head of this family is sensipent i.e. the 5-limit version of [[sensi]], generated by the naiadic interval of tempered 162/125. Two generators make 5/3, seven make harmonic 6 and nine make harmonic 10. Its [[ploidacot]] is beta-heptacot ([[pergen]] (P8, ccP5/7)) and its color name is Sepguti.  


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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~31/24 = 443.050
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~31/24 = 443.050


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.243
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.243


=== Sendai ===
=== Sendai ===
{{ See also | User:VIxen/Table of sensipent intervals }}
{{ See also | Sensipent#Sendai interval table }}
Sendai is an accurate extension of (2.3.5.31) [[#Sensipent|sensipent]] with primes [[23/16|23]] and [[29/16|29]] found by [[User:VIxen|VIxen]]. It is named after the body of acquis designed to prevent disaster risk and improve civil protection through international cooperation and after the city in Japan of the same name where it was signed (and where an international music competition is held).
Sendai is an accurate extension of (2.3.5.31) [[#Sensipent|sensipent]] with primes [[23/16|23]] and [[29/16|29]] found by [[User:VIxen|VIxen]]. It is named after the body of acquis designed to prevent disaster risk and improve civil protection through international cooperation and after the city in Japan of the same name where it was signed (and where an international music competition is held).


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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~31/24 = 442.989
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~31/24 = 442.989


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.283
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.283


=== Sensible ===
=== Sensible ===
{{ See also | Sensipent#Sensible interval table }}
Sensible is an extension of sensipent with prime 11 of dubious canonicity but significantly higher accuracy than [[sensi]]. It interprets the generator as [[165/128]]~[[128/99]] by tempering out [[8019/8000]] so that [[11/8]] is reached as ([[10/9]])<sup>3</sup>. This extension is very strong as supported by the [[optimal ET sequence]] going very far and as supported by another observation that it also tempers out the [[semiporwellisma]], which is equal to [[961/960|S31]] × [[1024/1023|S32]]<sup>2</sup> (thus forming the S-expression-based comma list). The vanish of the semiporwellisma, a [[lopsided comma]], implies that this temperament equates ([[33/32]])<sup>2</sup> with [[16/15]] as well as that a natural extension to prime 31 exists through {S31, S32}, which we will see is very accurate, but this itself suggests that an extension with prime 17 is reasonably accurate through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] so that a slightly sharp ~[[22/17]] is equated with the generator.
Sensible is an extension of sensipent with prime 11 of dubious canonicity but significantly higher accuracy than [[sensi]]. It interprets the generator as [[165/128]]~[[128/99]] by tempering out [[8019/8000]] so that [[11/8]] is reached as ([[10/9]])<sup>3</sup>. This extension is very strong as supported by the [[optimal ET sequence]] going very far and as supported by another observation that it also tempers out the [[semiporwellisma]], which is equal to [[961/960|S31]] × [[1024/1023|S32]]<sup>2</sup> (thus forming the S-expression-based comma list). The vanish of the semiporwellisma, a [[lopsided comma]], implies that this temperament equates ([[33/32]])<sup>2</sup> with [[16/15]] as well as that a natural extension to prime 31 exists through {S31, S32}, which we will see is very accurate, but this itself suggests that an extension with prime 17 is reasonably accurate through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] so that a slightly sharp ~[[22/17]] is equated with the generator.


The aforementioned extension with prime 17 through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] is equivalent to the one by tempering out [[256/255|S16]] = [[256/255]] = ([[22/17]])/([[165/128]]).
The aforementioned extension with prime 17 through tempering out [[1089/1088|S33]] is equivalent to the one by tempering out [[256/255|S16]] = [[256/255]] = ([[22/17]])/([[165/128]]).


Sensible uses the accurate mapping of prime 31 in sensipent, so that the sensible generator serves many roles in subgroup harmony, but it is not ~[[9/7]] or ~[[13/10]] which would incur more damage. Its S-expression-based comma list is {([[256/255|S16]], [[8019/8000|S9/S10]],) [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]], [[961/960|S31]], [[1024/1023|S32]], [[1089/1088|S33]]} implying also tempering out [[496/495]] = S31 × S32 and [[528/527]] = S32 × S33 as well as [[16337/16335]] = S31/S33 = ([[17/15|34/30]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup> = ([[17/15]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup>. A notable [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence is [[157edo]].
Sensible uses the accurate mapping of prime 31 in sensipent, so that the sensible generator serves many roles in subgroup harmony, but it is not ~[[9/7]] or ~[[13/10]] which would incur more damage. Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list is {([[256/255|S16]], [[8019/8000|S9/S10]],) [[529/528|S23]], [[576/575|S24]], [[961/960|S31]], [[1024/1023|S32]], [[1089/1088|S33]]} implying also tempering out [[496/495]] = S31 × S32 and [[528/527]] = S32 × S33 as well as [[16337/16335]] = S31/S33 = ([[17/15|34/30]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup> = ([[17/15]])/([[33/31]])<sup>2</sup>. A notable [[patent val]] tuning not appearing in the optimal ET sequence is [[157edo]].


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.11
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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~128/99 = 443.115
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~128/99 = 443.115


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.728
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.728


==== 2.3.5.11.17 subgroup ====
==== 2.3.5.11.17 subgroup ====
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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~22/17 = 443.188
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~22/17 = 443.188


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.639
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.639


==== 2.3.5.11.17.23 subgroup ====
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23 subgroup ====
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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~22/17 = 443.185
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~22/17 = 443.185


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.555
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.555


==== 2.3.5.11.17.23.31 subgroup ====
==== 2.3.5.11.17.23.31 subgroup ====
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 46, 65, 111, 176g }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~22/17 = 443.183
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: 2/1 = 1\1, ~22/17 = 443.183
* [[CEE]]: 2/1 = 1\1, ~22/17 = 443.115


[[Badness]] (Dirichlet): 0.490
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.490


== Sensi ==
== Sensi ==
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 -2 1 5 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~9/7 = {{monzo| 2/13 0 0 1/13 }}  
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~9/7 = {{monzo| 2/13 0 0 1/13 }}  
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis]]: 2.7
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~9/7 = {{monzo| 1/5 2/5 -1/5 0 }}
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~9/7 = {{monzo| 1/5 2/5 -1/5 0 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis]]: 2.9/5
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.9/5


[[Tuning ranges of regular temperaments|Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges of regular temperaments|Tuning ranges]]:  
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 -15 -2 1 -48 5 -66 -87 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 9 0 | 0 7 9 13 -15 10 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 -15 10 -2 1 -48 -10 5 -66 -10 -87 -20 90 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 31 -2 1 25 5 41 42 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 -8 0 | 0 7 9 13 31 10 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 31 10 -2 1 25 -10 5 41 -10 42 -20 -80 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~9/7
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 4 -2 1 -18 5 -22 -34 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 2 0 | 0 7 9 13 4 10 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 -1 -2 2 0 | 0 7 9 13 4 10 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 13 4 10 -2 1 -18 -10 5 -22 -10 -34 -20 20 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125
: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 32 -2 31 49 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~162/125 = 442.755
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~162/125 = 442.755
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125
: mapping generators: ~2, ~162/125
{{Multival|legend=1| 7 9 -33 -2 -72 -102 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~162/125 = 443.289
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~162/125 = 443.289
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* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 3 | 0 -7 -9 10 }}
* mingen form: {{mapping| 2 5 7 3 | 0 -7 -9 10 }}
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~35/32
:: mapping generators: ~567/400, ~35/32
{{Multival|legend=1| 14 18 -20 -4 -71 -97 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~567/400 = 600.000, ~162/125 = 443.075 (~35/32 = 156.925)
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~567/400 = 600.000, ~162/125 = 443.075 (~35/32 = 156.925)
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~56/45
: mapping generators: ~2, ~56/45
{{Multival|legend=1| 14 18 45 -4 32 54 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~56/45 = 378.467
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~56/45 = 378.467
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35
: mapping generators: ~2, ~48/35
{{Multival|legend=1| 21 27 -7 -6 -70 -92 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~48/35 = 546.815
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000, ~48/35 = 546.815
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: mapping generators: ~63/50, ~36/35
: mapping generators: ~63/50, ~36/35
{{Multival|legend=1| 21 27 12 -6 -40 -48 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~63/50 = 400.000, ~36/35 = 43.147
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~63/50 = 400.000, ~36/35 = 43.147
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