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* YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Recentlymaterialized|recentlymaterialized]] ([[User_talk:Recentlymaterialized|talk]]) 21:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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=== Question 2. Should Fredg999 be granted sysop permissions? YES or NO? === | === Question 2. Should Fredg999 be granted sysop permissions? YES or NO? === | ||
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* YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Recentlymaterialized|recentlymaterialized]] ([[User_talk:Recentlymaterialized|talk]]) 21:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Recentlymaterialized|recentlymaterialized]] ([[User_talk:Recentlymaterialized|talk]]) 21:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* Neutral. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * Neutral. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* Neutral. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * Neutral. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * YES. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* YES. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* YES. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). In addition, any content that is deemed worthy of long-term conservation should be hosted elsewhere than on a wiki, since a wiki is by nature constantly evolving, being subject to community edits over time, especially since the Xen Wiki which allows for original research. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). In addition, any content that is deemed worthy of long-term conservation should be hosted elsewhere than on a wiki, since a wiki is by nature constantly evolving, being subject to community edits over time, especially since the Xen Wiki which allows for original research. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are A. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* A. I agree largely with Sintel's reasoning above. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A. [[User:Arseniiv|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv|talk]]) 16:17, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* I'm good with A or B. Also F: Create a page category tag thingy to say "This is a legacy page, because its primary author is deceased. Use the discussion tab to suggest changes." In other words, I'm proposing B but without any formal process or deadline on what we do in response. [[User:Xenjacob|Xenjacob]] ([[User talk:Xenjacob|talk]]) 03:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning), though not much of us are good enough at maths, so I'd also pick F and G. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning), though not much of us are good enough at maths, so I'd also pick F and G. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). All information on the wiki, mathematical or not, can be subject to factual verification by users, and I don't see why math as a field would be treated differently from history, psychoacoustics, instrument making, etc. Any voluntary user can contribute to such verification tasks, so far as they work in collaboration with the rest of the community. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are A (see Sintel's reasoning). All information on the wiki, mathematical or not, can be subject to factual verification by users, and I don't see why math as a field would be treated differently from history, psychoacoustics, instrument making, etc. Any voluntary user can contribute to such verification tasks, so far as they work in collaboration with the rest of the community. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are A, C, E, G. [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* A; I again agree with Sintel's comment. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A. [[User:Arseniiv|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv|talk]]) 16:17, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A. Additionally I recommend looking into the feasibility of adding a checkbox when editing, like "minor edit" but, "mathematical correction". [[User:Xenjacob|Xenjacob]] ([[User talk:Xenjacob|talk]]) 03:23, 19 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are A, B, C (Sintel's proposal). [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A, B, C (by Sintel). [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A and C (by Sintel). [[User:Recentlymaterialized|recentlymaterialized]] ([[User_talk:Recentlymaterialized|talk]]) 21:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are C (by Sintel). [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are C (Sintel's proposal). [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A, B, C (by Sintel). [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* D. A page is created where anyone can nominate a page to be locked or unlocked. A yes/no vote is then held using the same rules as the yes/no votes on this page, except that ONLY admins can vote. The admins must enforce the results of the vote. | * D. A page is created where anyone can nominate a page to be locked or unlocked. A yes/no vote is then held using the same rules as the yes/no votes on this page, except that ONLY admins can vote. The admins must enforce the results of the vote. | ||
* E. Any proposed lock or unlock must be first suggested in both a Discord poll in #wiki, and a Facebook poll in Xenwiki Work Group. It must recieve more yes votes than no votes on BOTH platforms, as of exactly 7 days after the poll is posted. If nobody votes at all on one of the platforms, that is considered a "yes" vote. The admins must enforce the results of the vote. | * E. Any proposed lock or unlock must be first suggested in both a Discord poll in #wiki, and a Facebook poll in Xenwiki Work Group. It must recieve more yes votes than no votes on BOTH platforms, as of exactly 7 days after the poll is posted. If nobody votes at all on one of the platforms, that is considered a "yes" vote. The admins must enforce the results of the vote. | ||
* F. None of these options are acceptable, the community should be asked to invent a different option which can then be voted on. | * F. There should be a clear protection policy (analogous to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy Wikipedia's protection policy]). | ||
* G. None of these options are acceptable, the community should be asked to invent a different option which can then be voted on. | |||
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: Protection should be used sparingly and mostly as a last resort. Leaving pages protected indefinitely without leaving any path to unprotect them (as is happening now!) is unacceptable on a wiki. [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 13:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | : Protection should be used sparingly and mostly as a last resort. Leaving pages protected indefinitely without leaving any path to unprotect them (as is happening now!) is unacceptable on a wiki. [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 13:09, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are F. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 13:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are F. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 13:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are F. (just added Sintel's to the list at top) [[User:Xenjacob|Xenjacob]] ([[User talk:Xenjacob|talk]]) 03:26, 19 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are F. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 13:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are F. [[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 13:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are F. See Sintel's comment above. [[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 15:11, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are F. See Sintel's comment above. [[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 15:11, 9 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
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* The options I'm okay with are A, C, and D. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are A, C, and D. [[User:2^67-1|2^67-1]] ([[User talk:2^67-1|talk]]) 04:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are F (by Sintel). I assume that the protection policy would cover most needs, without requiring any community voting since the situations are clearly identifiable by the admins, and that exceptional situations could be treated in a case-by-case approach. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | * The options I'm okay with are F (by Sintel). I assume that the protection policy would cover most needs, without requiring any community voting since the situations are clearly identifiable by the admins, and that exceptional situations could be treated in a case-by-case approach. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
* The options I'm okay with are F (Sintel's proposal). [[User:DotuXil|DotuXil]] <span style="color:#f50c7d">(i like microtones)</span> 05:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are A, F (by Sintel). [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The options I'm okay with are F (by Sintel). [[User:Recentlymaterialized|recentlymaterialized]] ([[User_talk:Recentlymaterialized|talk]]) 21:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== Final results == | |||
=== Question 1 === | |||
Yes, FloraC will be granted bureaucrat permissions. (100% of 18 votes). | |||
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=== Question 2 === | |||
Yes, Fredg999 will be granted sysop permissions. (100% of 18 votes). | |||
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=== Question 3 === | |||
Yes, Fredg999 will be granted interface admin permissions. (100% of 18 votes). | |||
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=== Question 4 === | |||
Yes, Lériendil will be granted sysop permissions. (87.5% of 16 votes). | |||
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=== Question 5 === | |||
Yes, Lériendil will be granted interface admin permissions. (87.5% of 16 votes). | |||
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=== Question 6 === | |||
A. RTT pages (including Gene's) will be treated just the same as any other wiki page, not subject to extra protections just because they are RTT pages. (100% of 18 voters). | |||
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=== Question 7 === | |||
A. Mathematical content will be treated just the same as any other wiki content, any editor can check and update it. (100% of 17 voters). | |||
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=== Question 8 === | |||
C (Sintel). Any future admin nominations or removals should be discussed with everyone giving their opinions freely. After a set period the discussion closes and a bureaucrat reviews all of the arguments, and makes the final decision. The outcome should be based on community consensus (near unanimity) and not majority vote. (87.5% of 16 voters). | |||
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=== Question 9 === | |||
C (Sintel). Any future bureaucrat nominations or removals should be discussed with everyone giving their opinions freely. After a set period the discussion closes and another bureaucrat reviews all of the arguments, and makes the final decision. The outcome should be based on community consensus (near unanimity) and not majority vote. (86.7% of 15 voters). | |||
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=== Question 10 === | |||
F (Sintel). There should be a clear page protection policy (analogous to Wikipedia's protection policy). Protection can be done at the discretion of an admin, but the reasoning and duration should be clearly outlined on the talk page. To quote the Wikipedia policy: | |||
"''Applying page protection solely as a preemptive measure is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia and is generally not allowed. Instead, protection is used when vandalism, disruption, or abuse by multiple users is occurring at a frequency that warrants protection''." | |||
Protection should be used sparingly and mostly as a last resort. Leaving pages protected indefinitely without leaving any path to unprotect them (as is happening now!) is unacceptable on a wiki. | |||
(72% of 18 voters). | |||
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