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{{Wikipedia|Septimal quarter tone}}
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: right;"&gt;**[[xenharmonie/36_35|Deutsch]]**
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**36/35**
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48.77038 cents
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The **septimal quarter tone** (ratio: 36/35, size: 48.77038 [[cent|cents]]) is the difference between [[10_9|10/9]] and [[8_7|8/7]], [[7_6|7/6]] and [[6_5|6/5]], [[5_4|5/4]] and [[9_7|9/7]], [[14_9|14/9]] and [[8_5|8/5]], [[5_3|5/3]] and [[12_7|12/7]], and [[7_4|7/4]] and [[9_5|9/5]]. It has a numerator which is both the sixth square number and the eighth [[triangular number]], leading to it being the product of two [[superparticular]] commas both as 64/63 * 81/80 and as 66/65 * 78/77; it is also 45/44 * 176/175, 51/50 * 120/119 and 128/125 * 225/224.
'''36/35''', the '''septimal quartertone''' (~48.8{{cent}}) is the difference between [[10/9]] and [[8/7]], [[7/6]] and [[6/5]], [[5/4]] and [[9/7]], [[14/9]] and [[8/5]], [[5/3]] and [[12/7]], and [[7/4]] and [[9/5]]. It has a numerator which is both the sixth square number and the eighth [[triangular number]], leading to it being the product of two [[superparticular]] commas both as [[64/63]] × [[81/80]] and as [[66/65]] × [[78/77]]; it is also [[45/44]] × [[176/175]], [[51/50]] × [[120/119]], [[128/125]] × [[225/224]], [[50/49]] × [[126/125]] and [[56/55]] × [[99/98]].


[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_quarter_tone]]</pre></div>
== Temperaments ==
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When treated as a comma to be tempered out, it is known as the '''mint comma''', and tempering it out leads to the [[mint]] temperament. See [[mint family]], the family of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out, and [[mint temperaments]], the collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  
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== Etymology ==
&lt;strong&gt;36/35&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The name ''mint comma'' was given by [[Mike Battaglia]] in 2012, for <u>min</u>or <u>t</u>hird because "it mixes 7/6 and 6/5 together into one minty interval"<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_103732.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Quartonic'']</ref>. Before that, it had been known as the ''quartonic comma'', which refers to another comma today.
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== Notation ==
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=== Ben Johnston's notation ===
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In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], this interval is denoted with "{{invert|7}}" (a turned "7"), and the reciprocal 35/36 with an ordinary "7". If the base note is C, then [[7/4]] is reprented by C–Bb7.  
The &lt;strong&gt;septimal quarter tone&lt;/strong&gt; (ratio: 36/35, size: 48.77038 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cents&lt;/a&gt;) is the difference between &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_9"&gt;10/9&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8_7"&gt;8/7&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_6"&gt;7/6&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/6_5"&gt;6/5&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_7"&gt;9/7&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14_9"&gt;14/9&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8_5"&gt;8/5&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_3"&gt;5/3&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12_7"&gt;12/7&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_5"&gt;9/5&lt;/a&gt;. It has a numerator which is both the sixth square number and the eighth &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/triangular%20number"&gt;triangular number&lt;/a&gt;, leading to it being the product of two &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/superparticular"&gt;superparticular&lt;/a&gt; commas both as 64/63 * 81/80 and as 66/65 * 78/77; it is also 45/44 * 176/175, 51/50 * 120/119 and 128/125 * 225/224.&lt;br /&gt;
 
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=== Sagittal notation ===
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_quarter_tone" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimal_quarter_tone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | \!) }} and is called the '''35 medium diesis''', or '''35M''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 35/1 = 5×7 (equiv. 35/16), as for example in C-D{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | \!) }}. The upward version is called '''1/35M''' or '''35M up''' and is represented by {{sagittal| /|) }}.
 
== See also ==
* [[35/18]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[35/24]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
 
== Notes ==
 
[[Category:Quartertone]]
[[Category:Mint]]
[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]
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