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* The UDP for multi-period mosses may be written as ''u|d''(''p'') rather than ''up|dp''(''p''). This is because the period already appears in both the quantity of bright (''u times p'') and dark (''d times p'') generators, so omitting the ''p'' term makes the notation less redundant. In contexts where it doesn't cause confusion, the notation can be simplified further to ''u|d.''

* The UDP for a mode may be shortened to "u|" under the reasoning that omitting the ''d'' term, which can be inferred by the ''u'' term, makes the notation less redundant. For example, "5L 3s 5|", which refers to LsLLsLLs, is read as "5 ell 3 ess 5 pipe".

This is a system for describing scales beyond the set of named TAMNAMS scales. Both [[User:Frostburn]] ([[User:Frostburn/TAMNAMS Extension]]) and I have similar systems, with the main difference here being how mosses can be named any number of generations away from a named mos.

 

 

 

! colspan="2" |10-note mosses

! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses

The designations of chromatic, enharmonic, and subchromatic by themselves does not describe a specific mos descendant. To do that, the name of a step ratio range can be prefixed to the terms ''chromatic'', ''enharmonic'', and ''subchromatic'' (or ''(mos-prefix)chromatic'', ''(mos-prefix)enharmonic'', and ''(mos-prefix)subchromatic''). Specifying the step ratio is optional, and the names for step ratios can be abbreviated into a one or two-letter prefix. (Frostburn's abbreviations can be used here, too.) These prefixes are used for specific descendants, with the notable exception of ''soft'' and ''hard''. For enharmonic mosses, these describe mosses with a step ratio outside the hyposoft and hypohard range. For subchromatic mosses, these describe mosses within the entire soft and hard ranges, producing terminology more specific than just ''subchromatic'' but not as specific as the specific step ratio ranges. These prefixes must include a hyphen.

| rowspan="2" |(x+y)L (2x+y)s

| rowspan="2" |soft-

# Let z and w be the number of large and small steps of the parent mos to be found. Assign to z and w the values x and y respectively. Let n = 0, where n is the number of generations away from zL ws.

# Let m1 be equal to max(z, w) and m2 be equal to min(z, w).

# If both z and w are equal to 1, then the parent mos is nL ns and is n generations from the mos descendant xL ys. If not, repeat the process starting at step 2.

|+Names for wood scales up to 10 periods

!Abbrev.

|-

|hexwud-

|octwud-

=== Other names (in-progress) ===

* n-monolarge or monolarge - Refers to any mos that is of the form 1L ns. These mosses form an infinite mos family that is itself a singular line. This family includes 1L 1s, 1L 2s, 1L 3s, and so on.

* n-polylarge or polylarge - Refers to any mos of the form xL (nx+y)s that is along the pseudocollapsed range of step ratios for a mos xL ys. These mosses form an infinite linear family, similar to monolarge mosses. One example of this is 2L 1s, 2L 3s, 2L 5s, 2L 7s, 2L 9s, and so on.

=== Reasoning for names ===

The names for chromatic scales are based on former names for the child mosses of diatonic (5L 2s) - p-chromatic for 5L 7s and m-chromatic for 7L 5s - and was generalized to ''chromatic mos''. The term enharmonic is already in use to describe the grandchild mosses of diatonic, and so was generalized to ''enharmonic mos''. The term subchromatic is a term coined by Mike Battaglia to describe a scale that is more chromatic than either chromatic or enharmonic, and is generalized to ''subchromatic mos''.

The format of adding a mos's prefix to the terms descendant, chromatic, enharmonic, and subchromatic is best applied to mosses that have no more than three periods. With mosses that descend directly from nL ns mosses especially (4L 4s and above), this is to keep names from being too cumbersome (eg, ''chromatic (number)-wood'' instead of ''(number)-woodchromatic'').

 

 

The choice of names are not perfect and some may have issues. Some name suggestions went through different versions. This section is meant to start a discussion on alternate names should a need come up for it.

! colspan="10" |Changes to names to reduce or remove references to temperaments

! rowspan="2" |Possible issues

|5L 1s

|machinoid

|mech-

|mech

|mechatonic

|unchagned

|unchagned

|3L 7s

|sephiroid

|seph-

|seph

|sephirotonic or sephiratonic

|unchagned

|unchagned

|7L 3s

|dicoid and zaltertic

|dico- and zal-

|dico and zal

|zaltertic

|zal-

! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear the anti- prefix

! rowspan="2" |Possible issues

!Prefix

|amech

|selenite

|sel-

|sel

|selenic

|Shorter name. An indirect reference to [[luna]] temperament; "selene" is Greek for "moon". The name "selenite" follows the same pattern of 1L 6s being named after a type of gemstone.

|Pun.

|apine

|aga- or agat-

|1L 9s

|oliv-

|oliv

|parivalic, alentic

! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear other prefixes

! rowspan="2" |Possible issues

!Prefix

|2L 5s

|antidiatonic

|pel-

|pel

|pelotonic or peltonic

|pelic

| rowspan="2" |From "[[pelog]]" and "[[armodue]]". The proposed names are to make both scales more distinct from diatonic. These names must be changed together if possible. The use of the term "superdiatonic" to refer to 7L 2s was misattributed to armodue theorists, as the term cannot be found anywhere on the armodue website. The use of the term "superdiatonic" is sometimes used in contexts that do not suggest the mos 7L 2s. (Examples needed)

 

Hairtonic ("pelo" is Spanish for "hair").

|7L 2s

|superdiatonic

|arm-

|arm

|armotonic

|unchagned

|armic

|An indirect reference to [[bleu]] temperament; azure is a specific shade of blue. Simplified name. Also, the sub- prefix may falsely suggest another scale called "(prefix)neutralic", similar to how sub'''aric''' (2L 6s) is the parent to both j'''aric''' (2L 8s) and t'''aric''' (8L 2s).

|New name is referencing a temperament, albeit indirectly. The sub- prefix reasoning may be a stretch, since subaric, jaric, and taric are the only mosses related this way.

|Too minor of a modification. The use of "bar" as an abbreviation may be problematic ("bar" may also mean "measure" in sheet music).

=== Aesthetic rules ===

These are the rules that attempt to justify the logic behind much of the name suggestions. There are, of course, exceptions to these rules, as some names are arguably too memorable to change.

 

# Names for single-period mosses with 5 or fewer notes are the most general names in the sense that they're not limited to an octave period and end with -ic or -al. These should be the only mosses that contain the anti- prefix, shortened to an-. (Exception: monowood is octave-specific and does not end with -ic or -al.)

## An extreme alternative to rule 1 is to say that all mosses named under rule 1 should end with -al, but this requires renaming more mosses (antetral, tetral, pental, anpental) for arguably little gain.

# Names for single-period mosses not of the form 1L ns end with -tonic, suggesting that these are octave-specific and reference a specific interval, a notable pre-TAMNAMS or other temperament-agnostic name, or indirectly reference a temperament if all other options are exhausted. (Exceptions: mosh, semiquartal, zaltertic, balzano, and pine don't end with -tonic.)

# Names for mosses of the form 1L ns with 6 or more notes are named after gemstones and minerals, following the spirit of 1L 6s being named onyx. These are named differently than those named using the previous rule as these mosses have too broad a tuning range to even suggest a single temperament.

# Names for multi-period mosses end with -ic and always refer to an octave-equivalent scale. (Execptions: lemon, lime, tcherepnin, and all the -wood scales don't end with -ic.)

# With the exception of mosses named under rule 1, no mosses should be named in a way that they contain additional prefixes such as anti-, sub-, or super-. (Exception: semiquartal bears the semi- prefix, but its mosprefix is chton-).

* Antipentic -> anpentic; follows names of other small mosses where an- is used as a shortened form of anti-.

 

{| class="wikitable"

|+Table of mosses with all proposed name changes (changed names are shown in bold)

! colspan="18" |Single-period mosses

| rowspan="16" |1L 1s

| rowspan="8" |1L 3s

| rowspan="8" |antetric

| rowspan="6" |1L 4s

| rowspan="6" |pedal

| rowspan="5" |1L 5s

| rowspan="5" |'''selenite'''

|9L 1s

|sinatonic

|8L 1s

|'''azurtonic'''

| colspan="2" rowspan="14" |

| colspan="2" rowspan="13" |

| colspan="2" rowspan="12" |

|5L 1s

|'''mechatonic'''

| colspan="2" rowspan="11" |

| rowspan="2" |4L  1s

| rowspan="2" |manual

|5L 4s

|semiquartal

|4L 5s

|gramitonic

| rowspan="3" |3L 1s

| rowspan="3" |tetric

|4L 3s

|smitonic

| colspan="2" |

| rowspan="2" |3L 4s

| rowspan="2" |mosh

|7L 3s

|'''zaltertic'''

|3L 7s

|'''sephiratonic'''

| rowspan="5" |2L 1s

| rowspan="2" |3L 2s

| rowspan="2" |'''anpentic'''

|3L 5s

|checkertonic

| colspan="2" rowspan="3" |

|5L 3s

| rowspan="3" |2L 3s

| rowspan="3" |pentic

| rowspan="2" |2L 5s

| rowspan="2" |'''pelotonic'''

|7L 2s

|'''armotonic'''

|2L 7s

|balzano

! colspan="18" |2-period mosses

| colspan="10" rowspan="6" |

| rowspan="5" |2L 2s

| rowspan="5" |biwood

| rowspan="3" |2L 4s

| rowspan="3" |malic

| rowspan="2" |2L 6s

| rowspan="2" |'''baric'''

|8L 2s

|taric

|6L 2s

|ekic

| colspan="2" rowspan="3" |

| rowspan="2" |4L 2s

| rowspan="2" |citric

|6L 4s

|lemon

|4L 6s

! colspan="18" |3-period mosses

| colspan="14" rowspan="3" |

| rowspan="2" |3L 3s

| rowspan="2" |triwood

|3L 6s

|tcherepnin

|6L 3s

|hyrulic

! colspan="18" |4-period mosses

| colspan="16" rowspan="2" |

|4L 4s

|tetrawood

! colspan="18" |5-period mosses

| colspan="16" rowspan="2" |

|5L 5s

|pentawood