Talk:Small comma: Difference between revisions

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So I suggest the name Yo-28 be moved to the first column, next to "oquatonic comma", and the 2nd column have the usual color name, Quadla-sepquadyo. Likewise for Gu-31 and Gu-59. -[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 00:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

== Color names for 3-limit commas ==

Color names are mostly a straightforward mapping of the numbers in the monzo to syllables, except that it obscures the 2-count and 3-count. You have to deduce those from the degree, the magnitude, etc. Mostly this works quite well. The degree lets you estimate the size in cents, which is usually more useful information than the number of threes in the ratio.

But it doesn't work well with 3-limit commas. The most important fact about such commas is the 3-count! That tells you which edo it implies, which immediately tells you what you get when you temper out the comma. That's why I devised the "wa format", such as Wa-41, or its short form, w-41.

But here and on the other two comma pages, the short forms have been changed from e.g. "w-41" to "s<sup>6</sup>w5". IMO this isn't a good idea.

One could argue that it's somewhat useful to know that this comma turns out to be a very small 5th. IMO that information belongs on the page dedicated to that comma, where there's room to delve into such details. It doesn't belong in the table of commas.

Also, I don't like seeing the short form removed. It's good to know. It's very useful for equations such as Ly-2 + w-17 = sy2.

--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 05:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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 So I suggest the name Yo-28 be moved to the first column, next to "oquatonic comma", and the 2nd column have the usual color name, Quadla-sepquadyo. Likewise for Gu-31 and Gu-59. -[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 00:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
+== Color names for 3-limit commas ==
+Color names are mostly a straightforward mapping of the numbers in the monzo to syllables, except that it obscures the 2-count and 3-count. You have to deduce those from the degree, the magnitude, etc. Mostly this works quite well. The degree lets you estimate the size in cents, which is usually more useful information than the number of threes in the ratio.
+But it doesn't work well with 3-limit commas. The most important fact about such commas is the 3-count! That tells you which edo it implies, which immediately tells you what you get when you temper out the comma. That's why I devised the "wa format", such as Wa-41, or its short form, w-41.
+But here and on the other two comma pages, the short forms have been changed from e.g. "w-41" to "s<sup>6</sup>w5". IMO this isn't a good idea.
+One could argue that it's somewhat useful to know that this comma turns out to be a very small 5th. IMO that information belongs on the page dedicated to that comma, where there's room to delve into such details. It doesn't belong in the table of commas.
+Also, I don't like seeing the short form removed. It's good to know. It's very useful for equations such as Ly-2 + w-17 = sy2.
+--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 05:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)