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In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''5/4''' is the [[frequency ratio]] between the 5th and 4th [[harmonic]]s. It has been called the '''just major third'''<ref>[https://marsbat.space/pdfs/HEJI2_legend+series.pdf ''The Helmholtz-Ellis JI Pitch Notation (HEJI)''] by [[Marc Sabat]] and [[Thomas Nicholson]] from Plainsound Music Edition</ref>, '''classic(al) major third'''<ref>[https://dkeenan.com/Music/IntervalNaming.htm ''A note on the naming of musical intervals''] by [[Dave Keenan]]</ref>, or '''ptolemaic major third'''<ref>[https://marsbat.space/pdfs/JI.pdf ''Fundamental Principles of Just Intonation and Microtonal Composition''] by Thomas Nicholson and Marc Sabat —"'Ptolemaic' refers to intervals combining only the primes 2, 3, and 5."</ref> to distinguish it from other intervals in that neighborhood. Measuring about 386.3 [[cent|¢]], it is about 13.7 ¢ away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400 ¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81/80]], which measures about 21.5 ¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds", 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".

In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated ~~here~~ melodically in singing into a resonant [[udderbot]] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).

In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated in [[:File: 5-4.mp3]] melodically in singing into a resonant [[udderbot]] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).

== Approximations by edos ==

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* [[Gallery of just intervals]]

* [[List of superparticular intervals]]

* [[:File:5-4.mp3]] – sound sample that illustrates 5/4 as the interval between sung overtones

== Notes ==

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 In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''5/4''' is the [[frequency ratio]] between the 5th and 4th [[harmonic]]s. It has been called the '''just major third'''<ref>[https://marsbat.space/pdfs/HEJI2_legend+series.pdf ''The Helmholtz-Ellis JI Pitch Notation (HEJI)''] by [[Marc Sabat]] and [[Thomas Nicholson]] from Plainsound Music Edition</ref>, '''classic(al) major third'''<ref>[https://dkeenan.com/Music/IntervalNaming.htm ''A note on the naming of musical intervals''] by [[Dave Keenan]]</ref>, or '''ptolemaic major third'''<ref>[https://marsbat.space/pdfs/JI.pdf ''Fundamental Principles of Just Intonation and Microtonal Composition''] by Thomas Nicholson and Marc Sabat —"'Ptolemaic' refers to intervals combining only the primes 2, 3, and 5."</ref> to distinguish it from other intervals in that neighborhood. Measuring about 386.3 [[cent|¢]], it is about 13.7 ¢ away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400 ¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81/80]], which measures about 21.5 ¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds", 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".
-In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant [[udderbot]] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).
+In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated in [[:File: 5-4.mp3]] melodically in singing into a resonant [[udderbot]] (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).
 == Approximations by edos ==
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 * [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 * [[List of superparticular intervals]]
-* [[:File:5-4.mp3]] – sound sample that illustrates 5/4 as the interval between sung overtones
 == Notes ==