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=Future of this wiki= ==A To-Do list, all points of discussion== ===Transfer from riters.com=== There are still a couple of pages at [[http://riters.com/microtonal]] that could be copied over if we want this to be the one true wiki. ===Improved Yahoo! search engine=== Now that you can do an advanced search of the tuning (or other) list over the entirety of its life on Yahoo, there is less need to copy things from the tuning list archive. On the other hand, particularly well-written emails might deserve to get their own page. Authors' permissions necessary? ===Database of "microtonal solutions"=== not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested, but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this) An instrument-centric approach: [[MicrotonalInstruments]] ===Improved Listening List=== The list of downloadable microtonal sounds is in good shape. It does need people to watch relevant sources (tuning and MMM lists come to mind) and add/update the links. A reviewing or rating system, perhaps also of CD releases, may additionally be helpful. ===Fill out the scale catalogue=== Sources for this: all the Yahoo! lists, the Scala archive, original reflection on new and old scales, pages of X.J. Scott, David Finnamore, Tonalsoft...? Have at least one sound example (midi, mp3, ogg...) for each scale, and keep in mind that this wiki allows you to upload files up to 5 MB each. Ever since learning about the MOS scales I have desired but not seen a good, thorough introduction to them, or to the two-dimensional method of creating scales. ===An FAQ: everyone posts questions, answers.=== This could be sufficiently primed by mining the lists. But more importantly it would need to be linked to by a high-seach-engine-ranking page. ===Pages on debates?=== Do we want to touch the dangerous stuff? JI vs. ET vs. EDO? MMM vs. just plain MM? The point would not be to have another place to play out the old arguments, but to //make// something useful out of them. On the other hand, we //could// make pages on points that many can agree on, with the aim of working together to come up with ways to meet our collective goals. The obvious one, originally Harry Partch: Microtonality is overlooked or dismissed all too often, and the best way to counter its detractors is in making good music with it. ===More on making things: a radical proposal=== To me, the wiki as a structure remains an invitation to try new ways to represent information and to cause social interaction to happen. Much of this is overlap with the general Web 2.0 mentality, as well as creeping exhibitionism: why blog or wiki about something you're doing instead of just doing it? What I add to it are **Unreasonable Expectations** (that others are doing similar things and just need a poke or two in the direction of sharing) and **Half-Baked Ideas** (for projects that I personally don't have the time to complete but we can perhaps get a coalition of the wishing-it-would-happen). This idea itself is admittedly half-baked, but (and this is the point) I don't let it stop me. So the radical proposal is this: be irresponsible. Start something you don't intend to finish, just to see how beautiful it is. Pretend you are backed up by a solid movement of joyous people rather than a smattering of bickering and frigid but seemingly well-meaning folks. And it will (maybe) come true.
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<html><head><title>wikifuture</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Future of this wiki"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Future of this wiki</h1> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h2> --><h2 id="toc1"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->A To-Do list, all points of discussion</h2> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h3> --><h3 id="toc2"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Transfer from riters.com"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Transfer from riters.com</h3> There are still a couple of pages at <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://riters.com/microtonal" rel="nofollow">http://riters.com/microtonal</a> that could be copied over if we want this to be the one true wiki.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:<h3> --><h3 id="toc3"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Improved Yahoo! search engine"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Improved Yahoo! search engine</h3> Now that you can do an advanced search of the tuning (or other) list over the entirety of its life on Yahoo, there is less need to copy things from the tuning list archive. On the other hand, particularly well-written emails might deserve to get their own page. Authors' permissions necessary?<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:<h3> --><h3 id="toc4"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Database of "microtonal solutions""></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->Database of "microtonal solutions"</h3> not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested, but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this)<br /> An instrument-centric approach: <a class="wiki_link" href="/MicrotonalInstruments">MicrotonalInstruments</a><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:<h3> --><h3 id="toc5"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Improved Listening List"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 -->Improved Listening List</h3> The list of downloadable microtonal sounds is in good shape. It does need people to watch relevant sources (tuning and MMM lists come to mind) and add/update the links. A reviewing or rating system, perhaps also of CD releases, may additionally be helpful.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:12:<h3> --><h3 id="toc6"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Fill out the scale catalogue"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:12 -->Fill out the scale catalogue</h3> Sources for this: all the Yahoo! lists, the Scala archive, original reflection on new and old scales, pages of X.J. Scott, David Finnamore, Tonalsoft...? Have at least one sound example (midi, mp3, ogg...) for each scale, and keep in mind that this wiki allows you to upload files up to 5 MB each.<br /> <br /> Ever since learning about the MOS scales I have desired but not seen a good, thorough introduction to them, or to the two-dimensional method of creating scales.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:14:<h3> --><h3 id="toc7"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-An FAQ: everyone posts questions, answers."></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:14 -->An FAQ: everyone posts questions, answers.</h3> This could be sufficiently primed by mining the lists. But more importantly it would need to be linked to by a high-seach-engine-ranking page.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:<h3> --><h3 id="toc8"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-Pages on debates?"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 -->Pages on debates?</h3> Do we want to touch the dangerous stuff? JI vs. ET vs. EDO? MMM vs. just plain MM? The point would not be to have another place to play out the old arguments, but to <em>make</em> something useful out of them.<br /> <br /> On the other hand, we <em>could</em> make pages on points that many can agree on, with the aim of working together to come up with ways to meet our collective goals. The obvious one, originally Harry Partch: Microtonality is overlooked or dismissed all too often, and the best way to counter its detractors is in making good music with it.<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:<h3> --><h3 id="toc9"><a name="Future of this wiki-A To-Do list, all points of discussion-More on making things: a radical proposal"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->More on making things: a radical proposal</h3> To me, the wiki as a structure remains an invitation to try new ways to represent information and to cause social interaction to happen. Much of this is overlap with the general Web 2.0 mentality, as well as creeping exhibitionism: why blog or wiki about something you're doing instead of just doing it? What I add to it are <strong>Unreasonable Expectations</strong> (that others are doing similar things and just need a poke or two in the direction of sharing) and <strong>Half-Baked Ideas</strong> (for projects that I personally don't have the time to complete but we can perhaps get a coalition of the wishing-it-would-happen). This idea itself is admittedly half-baked, but (and this is the point) I don't let it stop me.<br /> <br /> So the radical proposal is this: be irresponsible. Start something you don't intend to finish, just to see how beautiful it is. Pretend you are backed up by a solid movement of joyous people rather than a smattering of bickering and frigid but seemingly well-meaning folks. And it will (maybe) come true.</body></html>