Octatonic Groove
Hi Rperlner, welcome to the Wiki 🙂 Thanks for sharing your pieces! (the 48-EDO version makes more sense to me) Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Yeah, Everyone I've talked to seems to like the 48-EDO version better. I also have a 26 edo version I like quite a lot, which I'll get around to uploading eventually. Pleased to meet you. -- Rperlner
Scherzo in 26 EDO
Hi Ray,
your Scherzo in 26 EDO sounds great. The notation looks quite uncommon to readers of classic music but interesting. After a bit of calculation I found out that the accidentals actually cause a 1\26 shift. Notating the piece in "B" causes that no double-flats have to be used (also F# and C# would allow this). I think we should have at least one article about circle-of-fifths notation(s) in the XenWiki. Thanks for sharing. --Xenwolf (talk) 13:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
PS: the sixfold forte in the 3rd-last bar before Fine seems like a glitch to me.
I'm glad you liked my scherzo. I did indeed choose the key of B to try to minimize double accidentals. (Strictly speaking, anything can be notated without double flats, since Dx = Cbb etc. in 26 edo). Regarding circle-of-fifths notation. Is it not covered (albeit briefly) by https://en.xen.wiki/w/Alternative_symbols_for_ups_and_downs_notation ? Or did you have something more devoted specifically to the traditional usage of #s and bs in pythagorean and meantone tunings? (Note: There were a number of ETs the article claimed couldn't be notated in Musescore. I was able to confirm that they can be notated in the version of Musescore with the n-tet tuner plugin that I have, using the double sharp and double flat arrow accidentals. I removed the inaccurate sentences.) Regarding the sixfold forte. I did mean to put it in. Musescore just wouldn't play that note loud enough so I tried extreme measures. It probably shouldn't be taken as instructions to any human performers who might actually want to play it some day. --Ray
Removal
Seems that you summarized by describing what you did, unfortunately not why. Let me ask here instead: are multiple sharps and flats now possible. Where is the limit for this? --Xenwolf (talk) 20:41, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I intended to, but accidentally saved the changes before I put the comment in. These systems can be used in musescore. Musescore has double sharp, double flat, and double sharp and double flat with arrows, and was able to spot check that these work. The Musescore plugin documentation also says Musescore plugin to retune and pitch up/down notes in any EDO ranked from flat-2 to sharp-8. (Supports all EDOs from 5-72 except 59, 66, and 71. Also supports larger edos up to 117 that are rated with a sharpness of up to sharp-8). See https://github.com/euwbah/musescore-n-tet-plugins/blob/master/README.md
- No need to apologize. Good to know.
- Another question for refinement: Is there a way to use triple, quadruple etc. sharps and flats? I know that these are not available in classic notation but theoretically it's possible even if unusual to reach every note in higher order EDOs (above 35) entirely by stacking fifths. --Xenwolf (talk) 21:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)