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[[Kite Giedraitis|Kite's]] diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs [[wikipedia:Front_vowel|front]] to [[wikipedia:Back_vowel|back]] (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's [[31edo solfege]]. | [[Kite Giedraitis|Kite's]] diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs [[wikipedia:Front_vowel|front]] to [[wikipedia:Back_vowel|back]] (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's [[31edo solfege]]. | ||
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|+Kite's diatonic solfege (-i -e -a -o -u = ^M M ~ m vm), see 31edo | |+Kite's diatonic solfege (-i -e -a -o -u = ^M M ~ m vm), see 31edo | ||
![[24edo]] | ![[24edo]] | ||
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!notes | !notes | ||
|C | |C | ||
|^C | |^C<br>vDb | ||
vDb | |||
|Db | |Db | ||
|vD | |vD | ||
|D | |D | ||
|^D | |^D<br>vEb | ||
vEb | |||
|Eb | |Eb | ||
|vE | |vE | ||
|E | |E | ||
|^E | |^E<br>vF | ||
vF | |||
|F | |F | ||
|^F | |^F<br>vGb | ||
vGb | |F#<br>Gb | ||
|F# | |^F#<br>vG | ||
Gb | |||
|^F# | |||
vG | |||
|G | |G | ||
|^G | |^G<br>vAb | ||
vAb | |||
|Ab | |Ab | ||
|vA | |vA | ||
|A | |A | ||
|^A | |^A<br>vBb | ||
vBb | |||
|Bb | |Bb | ||
|vB | |vB | ||
|B | |B | ||
|^B | |^B<br>vC | ||
vC | |||
|C | |C | ||
|- | |- | ||
!intervals | !intervals | ||
|P1 | |P1 | ||
|^1 | |^1<br>vm2 | ||
vm2 | |||
|m2 | |m2 | ||
|~2 | |~2 | ||
|M2 | |M2 | ||
|^M2 | |^M2<br>vm3 | ||
vm3 | |||
|m3 | |m3 | ||
|~3 | |~3 | ||
|M3 | |M3 | ||
|^M3 | |^M3<br>v4 | ||
v4 | |||
|P4 | |P4 | ||
|^4 | |^4<br>vd5 | ||
vd5 | |A4<br>d5 | ||
|A4 | |^A4<br>v5 | ||
d5 | |||
|^A4 | |||
v5 | |||
|P5 | |P5 | ||
|^5 | |^5<br>vm6 | ||
vm6 | |||
|m6 | |m6 | ||
|~6 | |~6 | ||
|M6 | |M6 | ||
|^M6 | |^M6<br>vm7 | ||
vm7 | |||
|m7 | |m7 | ||
|~7 | |~7 | ||
|M7 | |M7 | ||
|^M7 | |^M7<br>v8 | ||
v8 | |||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!solfege | !solfege | ||
|Do | |Do | ||
|Da | |Da<br>Ru | ||
Ru | |||
|Ro | |Ro | ||
|Ra | |Ra | ||
|Re | |Re | ||
|Ri | |Ri<br>Mu | ||
Mu | |||
|Mo | |Mo | ||
|Ma | |Ma | ||
|Me | |Me | ||
|Mi | |Mi<br>Fu | ||
Fu | |||
|Fo | |Fo | ||
|Fa | |Fa<br>Su | ||
Su | |Fe<br>So | ||
|Fe | |Fi<br>Sa | ||
So | |||
|Fi | |||
Sa | |||
|Se | |Se | ||
|Si | |Si<br>Lu | ||
Lu | |||
|Lo | |Lo | ||
|La | |La | ||
|Le | |Le | ||
|Li | |Li<br>Tu | ||
Tu | |||
|To | |To | ||
|Ta | |Ta | ||
|Te | |Te | ||
|Ti | |Ti<br>Du | ||
Du | |||
|Do | |Do | ||
|} | |} | ||
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!~7 | !~7 | ||
!M2 | !M2 | ||
!^4 | !^4<br>vd5 | ||
vd5 | |||
!M6 | !M6 | ||
! ^1 | ! ^1<br>vm2 | ||
vm2 | |||
!M3 | !M3 | ||
!^5 | !^5<br>vm6 | ||
vm6 | |||
!M7 | !M7 | ||
!^M2 | !^M2<br>vm3 | ||
vm3 | !A4<br>d5 | ||
!A4 | !^M6<br>vm7 | ||
d5 | |||
!^M6 | |||
vm7 | |||
!m2 | !m2 | ||
! ^M3 | ! ^M3<br>v4 | ||
v4 | |||
!m6 | !m6 | ||
! ^M7 | ! ^M7<br>v8 | ||
v8 | |||
!m3 | !m3 | ||
!^A4 | !^A4<br>v5 | ||
v5 | |||
!m7 | !m7 | ||
! ~2 | !~2 | ||
!P4 | !P4 | ||
!~6 | !~6 | ||
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|Se | |Se | ||
|Ta | |Ta | ||
| Re | |Re | ||
| Fa | |Fa<br>Shu | ||
Shu | |||
|Le | |Le | ||
|Da | |Da<br>Ru | ||
Ru | |||
|Me | |Me | ||
|Si | |Si<br>Lu | ||
Lu | |||
| Te | | Te | ||
|Ri | |Ri<br>Mu | ||
Mu | |Fe<br>So | ||
|Fe | |Li<br>Tu | ||
So | |||
|Li | |||
Tu | |||
|Ro | |Ro | ||
|Mi | |Mi<br>Fu | ||
Fu | |||
|Lo | |Lo | ||
| Ti | | Ti<br>Du | ||
Du | |||
|Mo | |Mo | ||
|Fi | |Fi<br>Sa | ||
Sa | |||
|To | |To | ||
|Ra | |Ra | ||
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*Th = flat Ti | *Th = flat Ti | ||
*N- = flat Mi | *N- = flat Mi | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
!24edo | !24edo | ||
!0 | !0 | ||
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!notes | !notes | ||
|C | |C | ||
|^C | |^C<br>vDb | ||
vDb | |||
|Db | |Db | ||
|vD | |vD | ||
|D | |D | ||
|^D | |^D<br>vEb | ||
vEb | |||
|Eb | |Eb | ||
|vE | |vE | ||
|E | |E | ||
|^E | |^E<br>vF | ||
vF | |||
|F | |F | ||
|^F | |^F<br>vGb | ||
vGb | |F#<br>Gb | ||
|F# | |^F#<br>vG | ||
Gb | |||
|^F# | |||
vG | |||
|G | |G | ||
|^G | |^G<br>vAb | ||
vAb | |||
|Ab | |Ab | ||
|vA | |vA | ||
|A | |A | ||
|^A | |^A<br>vBb | ||
vBb | |||
|Bb | |Bb | ||
|vB | |vB | ||
|B | |B | ||
|^B | |^B<br>vC | ||
vC | |||
|C | |C | ||
|- | |- | ||
!intervals | !intervals | ||
|P1 | |P1 | ||
|^1 | |^1<br>vm2 | ||
vm2 | |||
|m2 | |m2 | ||
|~2 | |~2 | ||
|M2 | |M2 | ||
|^M2 | |^M2<br>vm3 | ||
vm3 | |||
|m3 | |m3 | ||
|~3 | |~3 | ||
|M3 | |M3 | ||
|^M3 | |^M3<br>v4 | ||
v4 | |||
|P4 | |P4 | ||
|^4 | |^4<br>vd5 | ||
vd5 | |A4<br>d5 | ||
|A4 | |^A4<br>v5 | ||
d5 | |||
|^A4 | |||
v5 | |||
|P5 | |P5 | ||
|^5 | |^5<br>vm6 | ||
vm6 | |||
|m6 | |m6 | ||
|~6 | |~6 | ||
|M6 | |M6 | ||
|^M6 | |^M6<br>vm7 | ||
vm7 | |||
|m7 | |m7 | ||
|~7 | |~7 | ||
|M7 | |M7 | ||
|^M7 | |^M7<br>v8 | ||
v8 | |||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!solfege | !solfege | ||
|Da | |Da | ||
|Du | |Du<br>Fro | ||
Fro | |||
|Fra | |Fra | ||
|Ro | |Ro | ||
|Ra | |Ra | ||
|Ru | |Ru<br>No | ||
No | |||
|Na | |Na | ||
|Mo | |Mo | ||
|Ma | |Ma | ||
|Mu | |Mu<br>Fo | ||
Fo | |||
|Fa | |Fa | ||
|Fu | |Fu<br>Sho | ||
Sho | |||
|Sha | |Sha | ||
|Shu | |Shu<br>So | ||
So | |||
|Sa | |Sa | ||
|Su | |Su<br>Flo | ||
Flo | |||
|Fla | |Fla | ||
|Lo | |Lo | ||
|La | |La | ||
|Lu | |Lu<br>Tho | ||
Tho | |||
|Tha | |Tha | ||
|To | |To | ||
|Ta | |Ta | ||
|Tu | |Tu<br>Do | ||
Do | |||
|Da | |Da | ||
|} | |} | ||
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!~7 | !~7 | ||
!M2 | !M2 | ||
!^4 | !^4<br>vd5 | ||
vd5 | |||
!M6 | !M6 | ||
!^1 | !^1<br>vm2 | ||
vm2 | |||
!M3 | !M3 | ||
!^5 | !^5<br>vm6 | ||
vm6 | |||
!M7 | !M7 | ||
!^M2 | !^M2<br>vm3 | ||
vm3 | |||
!d5 | !d5 | ||
!^M6 | !^M6<br>vm7 | ||
vm7 | |||
!m2 | !m2 | ||
!^M3 | !^M3<br>v4 | ||
v4 | |||
!m6 | !m6 | ||
!^M7 | !^M7<br>v8 | ||
v8 | |||
!m3 | !m3 | ||
!^d5 | !^d5<br>v5 | ||
v5 | |||
!m7 | !m7 | ||
!~2 | !~2 | ||
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|To | |To | ||
|Ra | |Ra | ||
|Fu | |Fu<br>Sho | ||
Sho | |||
|La | |La | ||
|Du | |Du<br>Fro | ||
Fro | |||
|Ma | |Ma | ||
|Su | |Su<br>Flo | ||
Flo | |||
|Ta | |Ta | ||
|Ru | |Ru<br>No | ||
No | |||
|Sha | |Sha | ||
|Lu | |Lu<br>Tho | ||
Tho | |||
|Fra | |Fra | ||
|Mu | |Mu<br>Fo | ||
Fo | |||
|Fla | |Fla | ||
|Tu | |Tu<br>Do | ||
Do | |||
|Na | |Na | ||
|Shu | |Shu<br>So | ||
So | |||
|Tha | |Tha | ||
|Ro | |Ro | ||
Revision as of 22:06, 31 August 2022
Kite Giedraitis's diatonic solfege
Kite's diatonic solfege uses the conventional 7 consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T. It uses unconventional vowels. For each degree, the sequence runs front to back (i.e. bright to dim) -i -e -a -o -u for upmajor-major-mid-minor-downminor. It uses the exact same 33 note names as Kite's 31edo solfege.
| 24edo | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| notes | C | ^C vDb |
Db | vD | D | ^D vEb |
Eb | vE | E | ^E vF |
F | ^F vGb |
F# Gb |
^F# vG |
G | ^G vAb |
Ab | vA | A | ^A vBb |
Bb | vB | B | ^B vC |
C |
| intervals | P1 | ^1 vm2 |
m2 | ~2 | M2 | ^M2 vm3 |
m3 | ~3 | M3 | ^M3 v4 |
P4 | ^4 vd5 |
A4 d5 |
^A4 v5 |
P5 | ^5 vm6 |
m6 | ~6 | M6 | ^M6 vm7 |
m7 | ~7 | M7 | ^M7 v8 |
P8 |
| solfege | Do | Da Ru |
Ro | Ra | Re | Ri Mu |
Mo | Ma | Me | Mi Fu |
Fo | Fa Su |
Fe So |
Fi Sa |
Se | Si Lu |
Lo | La | Le | Li Tu |
To | Ta | Te | Ti Du |
Do |
Beware: Mi, Fa, So, La and Ti all have new meanings.
| Upmajor scale | Do | Re | Mi | Fo | Se | Li | Ti | Do |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Major scale | Do | Re | Me | Fo | Se | Le | Te | Do |
| Mid scale | Do | Re | Ma | Fo | Se | La | Ta | Do |
| Minor scale | Do | Re | Mo | Fo | Se | Lo | To | Do |
| Downminor scale | Do | Re | Mu | Fo | Se | Lu | Tu | Do |
To find the octave complement of any interval:
- change the degree as usual: 2nd <--> 7th, 3rd <--> 6th, and 4th <--> 5th
- change the vowel as expected: -i <--> -u and -e <--> -o (-a is unchanged)
The two circles of fifths
The plain circle lacks ups and downs, hence the name.
| P1 | P5 | M2 | M6 | M3 | M7 | A4/d5 | m2 | m6 | m3 | m7 | P4 | P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Do | Se | Re | Le | Me | Te | Fe/So | Ro | Lo | Mo | To | Fo | Do |
The "off" circle contains the 6 offperfect intervals (^1 ^4 v4 ^5 v5 v8). The other 6 notes could be thought of as offmajor or offminor. Most of the notes in this circle have two names.
| vm2 ^1 |
vm6 ^5 |
vm3 ^M2 |
vm7 ^M6 |
v4 ^M3 |
v8 ^M7 |
v5 ^A4 |
~2 | ~6 | ~3 | ~7 | vd5 ^4 |
vm2 ^1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Su | Ru | |||||||||||
| Ru | Lu | Mu | Tu | Fu | Du | Sa | Ra | La | Ma | Ta | Fa | Da |
| Da | Si | Ri | Li | Mi | Ti | Fi |
Viewed as chains instead of circles:
- plain chain: So Ro Lo Mo To Fo Do Se Re Le Me Te Fe
- off chain: Su Ru Lu Mu Tu Fu Du Sa Ra La Ma Ta Fa Da Si Ri Li Mi Ti Fi
It's fairly easy to find the note a 4th or 5th above any note. The consonant is as would be expected from conventional interval arithmetic. There are only 3 fifths that don't rhyme:
- Do - Se (P1 to P5)
- Da - Si (^1 to ^5)
- Du - Sa (v1 to v5)
Thus Re plus a 4th is Se, Ro plus a 5th is Lo, etc. And in the example scales above, the 3rd, 6th and 7th always rhyme, as do the tonic and 4th, as do the 2nd and 5th.
However going a 5th up from an aug or upaug 4th would go to an aug or upaug 8ve, which doesn't exist in this solfege. Therefore one must rename the 4th as a dim 5th, then go up a 5th to a minor 2nd. Thus Fe + 5th = So + 5th = Ro. Likewise when adding a 4th, dim 5ths need renaming: So + 4th = Fe + 4th = Te.
Other circles
The two circles of 5ths can be interwoven to make a circle of mid 3rds.
| P1 | ~3 | P5 | ~7 | M2 | ^4 vd5 |
M6 | ^1 vm2 |
M3 | ^5 vm6 |
M7 | ^M2 vm3 |
A4 d5 |
^M6 vm7 |
m2 | ^M3 v4 |
m6 | ^M7 v8 |
m3 | ^A4 v5 |
m7 | ~2 | P4 | ~6 | P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Do | Ma | Se | Ta | Re | Fa Shu |
Le | Da Ru |
Me | Si Lu |
Te | Ri Mu |
Fe So |
Li Tu |
Ro | Mi Fu |
Lo | Ti Du |
Mo | Fi Sa |
To | Ra | Fo | La | Do |
The two circles of 4ths can be interwoven to make a circle of half-4ths.
| P1 | ^M2 vm3 |
P4 | ^5 vm6 |
m7 | ^1 vm2 |
m3 | ^4 vd5 |
m6 | ~7 | m2 | ~3 | A4 d5 |
~6 | M7 | ~2 | M3 | ^A4 v5 |
M6 | ^M7 v8 |
M2 | ^M3 v4 |
P5 | ^M6 vm7 |
P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Do | Ri Mu |
Fo | Si Lu |
To | Da Ru |
Mo | Fa Su |
Lo | Ta | Ro | Ma | Fe So |
La | Te | Ra | Me | Fi Sa |
Le | Ti Du |
Re | Mi Fu |
Se | Li Tu |
Do |
There is also a circle of down 5ths.
Kite Giedraitis's chromatic solfege
Kite's chromatic solfege uses the 7 conventional consonants D, R, M, F, S, L and T, plus 5 altered consonants that indicate flattening. It uses unconventional vowels: "oo" = u = up, "oh" = o = down, and "ah" = a = plain. It's a subset of Kite's 41edo solfege.
- Fr- = flat Re
- Fl- = flat La
- Sh- = flat So = sharp Fa
- Th = flat Ti
- N- = flat Mi
| 24edo | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| notes | C | ^C vDb |
Db | vD | D | ^D vEb |
Eb | vE | E | ^E vF |
F | ^F vGb |
F# Gb |
^F# vG |
G | ^G vAb |
Ab | vA | A | ^A vBb |
Bb | vB | B | ^B vC |
C |
| intervals | P1 | ^1 vm2 |
m2 | ~2 | M2 | ^M2 vm3 |
m3 | ~3 | M3 | ^M3 v4 |
P4 | ^4 vd5 |
A4 d5 |
^A4 v5 |
P5 | ^5 vm6 |
m6 | ~6 | M6 | ^M6 vm7 |
m7 | ~7 | M7 | ^M7 v8 |
P8 |
| solfege | Da | Du Fro |
Fra | Ro | Ra | Ru No |
Na | Mo | Ma | Mu Fo |
Fa | Fu Sho |
Sha | Shu So |
Sa | Su Flo |
Fla | Lo | La | Lu Tho |
Tha | To | Ta | Tu Do |
Da |
Beware, Do and So have new meanings.
| Upmajor scale | Da | Ra | Mu | Fa | Sa | Lu | Tu | Da |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Major scale | Da | Ra | Ma | Fa | Sa | La | Ta | Da |
| Mid scale | Da | Ra | Mo | Fa | Sa | Lo | To | Da |
| Minor scale | Da | Ra | Na | Fa | Sa | Fla | Tha | Da |
| Downminor scale | Da | Ra | No | Fa | Sa | Flo | Tho | Da |
To find the octave complement of any interval:
- change the degree as usual: 2nd <--> 7th, 3rd <--> 6th, and 4th <--> 5th
- change the quality as usual: major <--> minor, aug <--> dim, but perfect and mid are unchanged
- change the vowel as expected: -i <--> -u and -e <--> -o (-a is unchanged)
- if you get an aug 4th, change it to a dim 5th with the same vowel
- if you get an upminor interval Fru, Nu, Flu or Thu, change it to downmajor: Ro, Mo, Lo or To
The two circles of fifths
The plain circle lacks ups and downs, hence the name.
| P1 | P5 | M2 | M6 | M3 | M7 | A4/d5 | m2 | m6 | m3 | m7 | P4 | P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Da | Sa | Ra | La | Ma | Ta | Sha | Fra | Fla | Na | Tha | Fa | Da |
The "off" circle contains the 6 offperfect intervals (^1 ^4 v4 ^5 v5 v8). The other 6 notes could be thought of as offmajor or offminor. Most of the notes in this circle have two names.
| vm2 ^1 |
vm6 ^5 |
vm3 ^M2 |
vm7 ^M6 |
v4 ^M3 |
v8 ^M7 |
v5 ^d5 |
~2 | ~6 | ~3 | ~7 | vd5 ^4 |
vm2 ^1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fro | Flo | No | Tho | Fo | Do | So | Ro | Lo | Mo | To | Sho | Fro |
| Du | Su | Ru | Lu | Mu | Tu | Shu | Fu | Du |
Viewed as chains instead of circles:
- plain chain: Sha Fra Fla Na Tha Fa Da Sa Ra La Ma Ta
- off chain: Sho Fro Flo No Tho Fo Do So Ro Lo Mo To and Fu Du Su Ru Lu Mu Tu Shu
It's fairly easy to find the note a 4th or 5th above any note. The vowels match, i.e. the syllables rhyme. The consonant is as would be expected from conventional interval arithmetic. However, remember that an aug 4th is named as a dim 5th:
- To + P5 = Sho
- Ta + P5 = Sha
- Tu + P5 = Shu
Thus Ra plus a 4th is Sa, Ro plus a 5th is Lo, etc. And in the example scales above, the 3rd, 6th and 7th always rhyme, as do the tonic, 2nd, 4th and 5th.
Other circles
The two circles of 5ths can be interwoven to make a circle of mid 3rds.
| P1 | ~3 | P5 | ~7 | M2 | ^4 vd5 |
M6 | ^1 vm2 |
M3 | ^5 vm6 |
M7 | ^M2 vm3 |
d5 | ^M6 vm7 |
m2 | ^M3 v4 |
m6 | ^M7 v8 |
m3 | ^d5 v5 |
m7 | ~2 | P4 | ~6 | P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Da | Mo | Sa | To | Ra | Fu Sho |
La | Du Fro |
Ma | Su Flo |
Ta | Ru No |
Sha | Lu Tho |
Fra | Mu Fo |
Fla | Tu Do |
Na | Shu So |
Tha | Ro | Fa | Lo | Da |
The two circles of 4ths can be interwoven to make a circle of half-4ths.
| P1 | ^M2 vm3 |
P4 | ^5 vm6 |
m7 | ^1 vm2 |
m3 | ^4 vd5 |
m6 | ~7 | m2 | ~3 | d5 | ~6 | M7 | ~2 | M3 | ^d5 v5 |
M6 | ^M7 v8 |
M2 | ^M3 v4 |
P5 | ^M6 vm7 |
P1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Da | Ru
No |
Fa | Su Flo |
Tha | Du
Fro |
Na | Fu Sho |
Fla | To | Fra | Mo | Sha | Lo | Ta | Ro | Ma | Shu
So |
La | Tu Do |
Ra | Mu Fo |
Sa | Lu Tho |
Da |
There is also a circle of down 5ths.