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My new definition of consistency (to distance 0) just reformulates the term to be applicable to chords, rather than sets of notes not viewed as a chord. By my definition of chord consistency, an edo approximates chord C consistently iff it is consistent in S (according to the old definition) where S = [[diamond function|diamond]](C) where C is viewed as a set of notes from tonic. It's not a new definition except that you have to be careful that you're talking about a chord viewed as musically meaningful vs just a set of notes. [[User:IlL|Inthar]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 22:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

== Terminology split: "distinctly consistent" vs "uniquely consistent" ==

Steve Martin recently did some clarifications and clean-up across several wiki pages related to consistency. Over private email with me, he'd broached the question of "distinctly consistent" vs "uniquely consistent" and I pointed out that the former appeared on 41 wiki pages and the latter on 36 wiki pages, so it was worst-case scenario of a popularly used concept with about a 50/50 split in terminological choice. I wasn't sure what he'd do with that information, but it looks like he's gone with "distinctly" over "uniquely" in these latest changes of his. This is fine by me.

So my question is: I wonder how people would feel about standardizing to "distinctly" more widely, then (i.e. a note on the main page that many use "uniquely", but otherwise change "uniquely" to "distinctly"). The value of standardization I hope should be self-evident; less confusion (I'd prefer we don't have half of people using one term and half of people the other, but for the exact same concept) and clunkiness (I'd prefer not to see "distinctly/uniquely" in every position).

As for historical precedence, I find only a single occurrence of "distinctly consistent" in Yahoo from Gene Ward Smith (here: https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_15640#15640), and no occurrences of "uniquely consistent". Due to technical limitations, it's impractical to search Facebook records for this sort of problem, unfortunately, but as for the Discord server, it appears people have somewhat of a preference for "distinctly" as well. So that's not strong evidence either way. Let me know if anyone has any other sources.

I personally think "distinctly" is slightly clearer. But I haven't thought about it that much, so I welcome arguments either way.

Let me know what we're thinking. I'd be happy to make the changes if we decide they should be made. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 16:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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 My new definition of consistency (to distance 0) just reformulates the term to be applicable to chords, rather than sets of notes not viewed as a chord. By my definition of chord consistency, an edo approximates chord C consistently iff it is consistent in S (according to the old definition) where S = [[diamond function|diamond]](C) where C is viewed as a set of notes from tonic. It's not a new definition except that you have to be careful that you're talking about a chord viewed as musically meaningful vs just a set of notes. [[User:IlL|Inthar]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 22:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
+== Terminology split: "distinctly consistent" vs "uniquely consistent" ==
+Steve Martin recently did some clarifications and clean-up across several wiki pages related to consistency. Over private email with me, he'd broached the question of "distinctly consistent" vs "uniquely consistent" and I pointed out that the former appeared on 41 wiki pages and the latter on 36 wiki pages, so it was worst-case scenario of a popularly used concept with about a 50/50 split in terminological choice. I wasn't sure what he'd do with that information, but it looks like he's gone with "distinctly" over "uniquely" in these latest changes of his. This is fine by me.
+So my question is: I wonder how people would feel about standardizing to "distinctly" more widely, then (i.e. a note on the main page that many use "uniquely", but otherwise change "uniquely" to "distinctly"). The value of standardization I hope should be self-evident; less confusion (I'd prefer we don't have half of people using one term and half of people the other, but for the exact same concept) and clunkiness (I'd prefer not to see "distinctly/uniquely" in every position).
+As for historical precedence, I find only a single occurrence of "distinctly consistent" in Yahoo from Gene Ward Smith (here: https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_15640#15640), and no occurrences of "uniquely consistent". Due to technical limitations, it's impractical to search Facebook records for this sort of problem, unfortunately, but as for the Discord server, it appears people have somewhat of a preference for "distinctly" as well. So that's not strong evidence either way. Let me know if anyone has any other sources.
+I personally think "distinctly" is slightly clearer. But I haven't thought about it that much, so I welcome arguments either way.
+Let me know what we're thinking. I'd be happy to make the changes if we decide they should be made. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 16:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)