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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">//Viewed in light of Western diatonic theory, the three extra steps (of 34-et compared to 31-et) in effect widen the intervals between C and D, F and G, and A and B, thus making a distinction between major tones, ratio 9/8 and minor tones, ratio 10/9.// ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34_equal_temperament|Wikipedia]])
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">34edo divides the 2:1 octave into 34 equal steps of approximately 35.294117 cents. 34edo contains two [[17edo]]'s and the half-octave tritone of 600 cents. As a Fibonacci number, 34edo contains a close approximation to the irrational interval phi -- 21 degrees of 34edo, approximately 741.2 cents. Repeated iterations of this interval generates [[MOSScales|Moment of Symmetry]] scales with near-phi relationships between the step sizes.


== Listen ==
 
===Approximations to Just Intonation===
Like [[17edo]], 34edo contains workable approximations of just intervals involving 13 and 3 -- specifically, 13/8, 13/12, 13/9 and their inversions -- while failing to closely approximate ratios of 7 or 11. 34edo adds ratios of 5 into the mix, including: 5/4, 6/5, 9/5, 15/8, 13/10, 15/13, and their inversions. Since it distinguishes between 9/8 and 10/9 (exaggerating the difference between them, the syntonic comma of 81/80, from 21.5 cents to 35.3 cents), it is suitable for 5-limit JI. It is not a meantone system.
 
//Viewed in light of Western diatonic theory, the three extra steps (of 34-et compared to 31-et) in effect widen the intervals between C and D, F and G, and A and B, thus making a distinction between major tones, ratio 9/8 and minor tones, ratio 10/9.// ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34_equal_temperament|Wikipedia]])
 
===Intervals:===
|| degrees of 34edo || cents ||
|| 0 || 0.0 ||
|| 1 || 35.3 ||
|| 2 || 70.6 ||
|| 3 || 105.9 ||
|| 4 || 141.2 ||
|| 5 || 176.5 ||
|| 6 || 211.8 ||
|| 7 || 247.1 ||
|| 8 || 282.4 ||
|| 9 || 317.6 ||
|| 10 || 352.9 ||
|| 11 || 388.2 ||
|| 12 || 423.5 ||
|| 13 || 458.8 ||
|| 14 || 494.1 ||
|| 15 || 529.4 ||
|| 16 || 564.7 ||
|| 17 || 600.0 ||
|| 18 || 635.3 ||
|| 19 || 670.6 ||
|| 20 || 705.9 ||
|| 21 || 741.2 ||
|| 22 || 776.5 ||
|| 23 || 811.8 ||
|| 24 || 847.1 ||
|| 25 || 882.4 ||
|| 26 || 917.6 ||
|| 27 || 952.9 ||
|| 28 || 988.2 ||
|| 29 || 1023.5 ||
|| 30 || 1058.8 ||
|| 31 || 1094.1 ||
|| 32 || 1129.4 ||
|| 33 || 1164.7 ||
 
 
==Listen==  
* [[@http://www.archive.org/details/Ascension_105|Ascension]]
* [[@http://www.archive.org/details/Ascension_105|Ascension]]
Drums Bass and 34-tone guitar</pre></div>
Drums Bass and 34-tone guitar</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;34edo&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;em&gt;Viewed in light of Western diatonic theory, the three extra steps (of 34-et compared to 31-et) in effect widen the intervals between C and D, F and G, and A and B, thus making a distinction between major tones, ratio 9/8 and minor tones, ratio 10/9.&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34_equal_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;34edo&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;34edo divides the 2:1 octave into 34 equal steps of approximately 35.294117 cents. 34edo contains two &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;'s and the half-octave tritone of 600 cents. As a Fibonacci number, 34edo contains a close approximation to the irrational interval phi -- 21 degrees of 34edo, approximately 741.2 cents. Repeated iterations of this interval generates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;Moment of Symmetry&lt;/a&gt; scales with near-phi relationships between the step sizes.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc0"&gt;&lt;a name="x--Approximations to Just Intonation"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --&gt;Approximations to Just Intonation&lt;/h3&gt;
Like &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;, 34edo contains workable approximations of just intervals involving 13 and 3 -- specifically, 13/8, 13/12, 13/9 and their inversions -- while failing to closely approximate ratios of 7 or 11. 34edo adds ratios of 5 into the mix, including: 5/4, 6/5, 9/5, 15/8, 13/10, 15/13, and their inversions. Since it distinguishes between 9/8 and 10/9 (exaggerating the difference between them, the syntonic comma of 81/80, from 21.5 cents to 35.3 cents), it is suitable for 5-limit JI. It is not a meantone system.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Viewed in light of Western diatonic theory, the three extra steps (of 34-et compared to 31-et) in effect widen the intervals between C and D, F and G, and A and B, thus making a distinction between major tones, ratio 9/8 and minor tones, ratio 10/9.&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34_equal_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;degrees of 34edo&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
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    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;0.0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;35.3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;70.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;105.9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;141.2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;176.5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;211.8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;247.1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;282.4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;317.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;10&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;352.9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;388.2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;12&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;423.5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;458.8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;14&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;494.1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;15&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;529.4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;16&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;564.7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;17&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;600.0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;18&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;635.3&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;19&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;670.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;705.9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;21&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;741.2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;22&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;776.5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;23&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;811.8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;24&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;847.1&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;25&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;882.4&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;26&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;917.6&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;27&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;952.9&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;28&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;988.2&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;29&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1023.5&lt;br /&gt;
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    &lt;/tr&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;30&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1058.8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;31&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1094.1&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;32&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1129.4&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;33&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;1164.7&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/details/Ascension_105" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Ascension&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Drums Bass and 34-tone guitar&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.archive.org/details/Ascension_105" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Ascension&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Drums Bass and 34-tone guitar&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>