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The ragisma is [[4375/4374]] with a [[monzo]] of |-1 -7 4 1>, the smallest 7-limit [[superparticular]] ratio. Since (10/9)^4 = 4375/4374 * 32/21, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low [[complexity]] in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at [[microtemperament]]s the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have 7/6 = 4375/4374 * (27/25)^2, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.
The ragisma is [[4375/4374]] with a [[monzo]] of {{monzo|-1 -7 4 1}}, the smallest 7-limit [[superparticular]] ratio. Since (10/9)^4 = 4375/4374 * 32/21, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low [[complexity]] in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at [[microtemperament]]s the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have 7/6 = 4375/4374 * (27/25)^2, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.


Temperaments not discussed here include [[Jubilismic clan #Crepuscular|crepuscular]], [[Meantone family #Flattone|flattone]], [[Porcupine family #Hystrix|hystrix]], [[Starling temperaments #Sensi|sensi]], [[Gamelismic clan #Unidec|unidec]], [[Orwellismic temperaments #Quartonic|quartonic]], [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|catakleismic]], [[Tetracot family #Modus|modus]], [[Schismatic family #Pontiac|pontiac]], [[Tricot family|trillium]], [[Würschmidt family #Whirrschmidt|whirrschmidt]],  [[Gravity family #Zarvo|zarvo]], [[Vishnuzmic family #Vishnu|vishnu]], and [[Vulture family #Vulture|vulture]].  
Temperaments not discussed here include [[Jubilismic clan #Crepuscular|crepuscular]], [[Meantone family #Flattone|flattone]], [[Porcupine family #Hystrix|hystrix]], [[Starling temperaments #Sensi|sensi]], [[Gamelismic clan #Unidec|unidec]], [[Orwellismic temperaments #Quartonic|quartonic]], [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|catakleismic]], [[Tetracot family #Modus|modus]], [[Maja family|maja]], [[Schismatic family #Pontiac|pontiac]], [[Tricot family|trillium]], [[Würschmidt family #Whirrschmidt|whirrschmidt]],  [[Gravity family #Zarvo|zarvo]], [[Vishnuzmic family #Vishnu|vishnu]], and [[Vulture family #Vulture|vulture]].  


= Ennealimmal =
= Ennealimmal =
{{main|Ennealimmal}}
{{main|Ennealimmal}}


[[Ennealimmal]] temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the [[ennealimma|ennealimmal comma]], |1 -27 18>, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two period equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit. Its wedgie is <<18 27 18 1 -22 -34||.
[[Ennealimmal]] temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the [[ennealimma|ennealimmal comma]], {{monzo|1 -27 18}}, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two period equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit. Its wedgie is {{multival|18 27 18 1 -22 -34}}.


Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 EDOs, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.
Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 EDOs, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.
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* strict range: [48.920, 49.179]
* strict range: [48.920, 49.179]


[[Mapping]]: [<9 1 1 12|, <0 2 3 2|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|9 1 1 12}}, {{val|0 2 3 2}}]


[[Wedgie]]: <<18 27 18 1 -22 -34||
[[Wedgie]]: {{multival|18 27 18 1 -22 -34}}


Mapping generators: ~27/25, ~5/3
Mapping generators: ~27/25, ~5/3


[[POTE tuning|POTE generators]]: ~36/35 = 49.0205; ~10/9 = 182.354; ~6/5 = 315.687; ~49/40 = 350.980
[[POTE generators]]: ~36/35 = 49.0205; ~10/9 = 182.354; ~6/5 = 315.687; ~49/40 = 350.980


[[EDO|Vals]]: {{Val list| 27, 45, 72, 99, 171, 441, 612 }}
[[Vals]]: {{Val list| 27, 45, 72, 99, 171, 441, 612 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.003610
[[Badness]]: 0.003610
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Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 5632/5625
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 5632/5625


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -75|, <0 2 3 2 16|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -75}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 16}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.8654
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.8654
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Comma list: 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 4096/4095, 4375/4374
Comma list: 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 4096/4095, 4375/4374


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -75 93|, <0 2 3 2 16 -9|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -75 93}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 16 -9}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9030
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9030
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Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 131072/130977
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 131072/130977


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 124|, <0 2 3 2 -14|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 124}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 -14}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9244
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9244
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Comma list: 2089/2079, 2401/2400, 4096/4095, 4375/4374
Comma list: 2089/2079, 2401/2400, 4096/4095, 4375/4374


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 124 93|, <0 2 3 2 -14 -9|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 124 93}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 -14 -9}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9336
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 48.9336
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Badness: 0.016607
Badness: 0.016607
== Hemiennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4375/4374
Tuning ranges:
* valid range: [13.333, 22.222] (1\90 to 1\54)
* nice range: [17.304, 17.985]
* strict range:  [17.304, 17.985]
Mapping: [<18 0 -1 22 48|, <0 2 3 2 1|]
POTE generator: ~99/98 = 17.6219
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 198, 270, 342, 612, 954, 1566 }}
Badness: 0.006283
=== 13-limit ===
Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024
Tuning ranges:
* valid range: [16.667, 22.222] (1\72 to 1\54)
* nice range: [17.304, 18.309]
* strict range: [17.304, 18.309]
Mapping: [<18 0 -1 22 48 -19|, <0 2 3 2 1 6|]
POTE generator ~99/98 = 17.7504
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 198, 270 }}
Badness: 0.012505
=== Semihemiennealimmal ===
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374
Mapping: [<18 0 -1 22 48 88|, <0 4 6 4 2 -3|]
POTE generator: ~39/32 = 342.139
Vals: {{Val list| 126, 144, 270, 684, 954 }}
Badness: 0.013104
== Semiennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4000/3993, 4375/4374
Mapping: [<9 3 4 14 18|, <0 6 9 6 7|]
POTE generator: ~140/121 = 250.3367
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 369, 441 }}
Badness: 0.034196
=== 13-limit ===
Comma list: 1575/1573, 2080/2079, 2401/2400, 4375/4374
Mapping: [<9 3 4 14 18 -8|, <0 6 9 6 7 22|]
POTE generator: ~140/121 = 250.3375
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 297ef, 369f, 441 }}
Badness: 0.026122
== Quadraennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 234375/234256
Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -7|, <0 8 12 8 23|]
POTE generator: ~77/75 = 45.595
Vals: {{Val list| 342, 1053, 1395, 1737, 4869dd, 6606cdd }}
Badness: 0.021320


== Ennealimnic ==
== Ennealimnic ==
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* strict range: [48.920, 52.592]
* strict range: [48.920, 52.592]


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -2|, <0 2 3 2 5|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -2}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 5}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.395
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.395
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* strict range: [48.825, 50.000]
* strict range: [48.825, 50.000]


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -2 -33|, <0 2 3 2 5 10|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -2 -33}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 5 10}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.341
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.341
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* strict range: [48.485, 50.000]
* strict range: [48.485, 50.000]


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -2 -33 -3|, <0 2 3 2 5 10 6|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -2 -33 -3}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 5 10 6}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.335
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.335
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Comma list: 169/168, 243/242, 325/324, 441/440
Comma list: 169/168, 243/242, 325/324, 441/440


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 -2 20|, <0 2 3 2 5 2|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -2 20}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 5 2}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.708
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.708
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Comma list: 385/384, 1375/1372, 4375/4374
Comma list: 385/384, 1375/1372, 4375/4374


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 51|, <0 2 3 2 -3|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 51}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 -3}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.504
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.504
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Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384, 1375/1372
Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384, 1375/1372


Mapping: [<9 1 1 12 51 20|, <0 2 3 2 -3 2|]
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 51 20}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 -3 2}}]


POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.486
POTE generator: ~36/35 = 49.486
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Badness: 0.030325
Badness: 0.030325
== Hemiennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4375/4374
Tuning ranges:
* valid range: [13.333, 22.222] (1\90 to 1\54)
* nice range: [17.304, 17.985]
* strict range:  [17.304, 17.985]
Mapping: [{{val|18 0 -1 22 48}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 1}}]
POTE generator: ~99/98 = 17.6219
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 198, 270, 342, 612, 954, 1566 }}
Badness: 0.006283
=== 13-limit ===
Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024
Tuning ranges:
* valid range: [16.667, 22.222] (1\72 to 1\54)
* nice range: [17.304, 18.309]
* strict range: [17.304, 18.309]
Mapping: [{{val|18 0 -1 22 48 -19}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 1 6}}]
POTE generator ~99/98 = 17.7504
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 198, 270 }}
Badness: 0.012505
=== Semihemiennealimmal ===
Comma list: 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4225/4224, 4375/4374
Mapping: [{{val|18 0 -1 22 48 88}}, {{val|0 4 6 4 2 -3}}]
POTE generator: ~39/32 = 342.139
Vals: {{Val list| 126, 144, 270, 684, 954 }}
Badness: 0.013104
== Semiennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4000/3993, 4375/4374
Mapping: [{{val|9 3 4 14 18}}, {{val|0 6 9 6 7}}]
POTE generator: ~140/121 = 250.3367
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 369, 441 }}
Badness: 0.034196
=== 13-limit ===
Comma list: 1575/1573, 2080/2079, 2401/2400, 4375/4374
Mapping: [{{val|9 3 4 14 18 -8}}, {{val|0 6 9 6 7 22}}]
POTE generator: ~140/121 = 250.3375
Vals: {{Val list| 72, 297ef, 369f, 441 }}
Badness: 0.026122
== Quadraennealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 234375/234256
Mapping: [{{val|9 1 1 12 -7}}, {{val|0 8 12 8 23}}]
POTE generator: ~77/75 = 45.595
Vals: {{Val list| 342, 1053, 1395, 1737, 4869dd, 6606cdd }}
Badness: 0.021320


== Trinealimmal ==
== Trinealimmal ==
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325
Comma list: 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 2097152/2096325


Mapping: [<27 1 0 34 177|, <0 2 3 2 -4|]
Mapping: [{{val|27 1 0 34 177}}, {{val|0 2 3 2 -4}}]


POTE generator: ~6/5 = 315.644
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 315.644
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[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 589824/588245
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 589824/588245


[[Mapping]]: [<1 6 10 3|, <0 -23 -40 -1|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 6 10 3}}, {{val|0 -23 -40 -1}}]


[[Wedgie]]: <<23 40 1 10 -63 -110||
[[Wedgie]]: {{multival|23 40 1 10 -63 -110}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]] ~8/7 = 230.336
[[POTE generator]] ~8/7 = 230.336


[[EDO|Vals]]: {{Val list| 26, 73, 99, 224, 323, 422, 745d }}
[[Vals]]: {{Val list| 26, 73, 99, 224, 323, 422, 745d }}


[[Badness]]: 0.037648
[[Badness]]: 0.037648
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Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 589824/588245
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 589824/588245


Mapping: [<2 12 20 6 5|, <0 -23 -40 -1 5|]
Mapping: [{{val|2 12 20 6 5}}, {{val|0 -23 -40 -1 5}}]


POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.3370
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.3370
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Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 2200/2197, 3025/3024
Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 2200/2197, 3025/3024


Mapping: [<2 12 20 6 5 17|, <0 -23 -40 -1 5 -25|]
Mapping: [{{val|2 12 20 6 5 17}}, {{val|0 -23 -40 -1 5 -25}}]


POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.3373
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.3373
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= Supermajor =
= Supermajor =
The generator for supermajor temperament is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of <<37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater than that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.
The generator for supermajor temperament is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of {{multival|37 46 75 -13 15 45}}. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater than that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.


[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 52734375/52706752
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 52734375/52706752


[[Mapping]]: [<1 15 19 30|, <0 -37 -46 -75|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|1 15 19 30}}, {{val|0 -37 -46 -75}}]


[[Wedgie]]: <<37 46 75 -13 15 45||
[[Wedgie]]: {{multival|37 46 75 -13 15 45}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~9/7 = 435.082
[[POTE generator]]: ~9/7 = 435.082


[[EDO|Vals]]: {{Val list| 11, 80, 171, 764, 1106, 1277, 3660, 4937, 6214 }}
[[Vals]]: {{Val list| 11, 80, 171, 764, 1106, 1277, 3660, 4937, 6214 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.010836
[[Badness]]: 0.010836
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Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 35156250/35153041
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 35156250/35153041


Mapping: [<2 30 38 60 41|, <0 -37 -46 -75 -47|]
Mapping: [{{val|2 30 38 60 41}}, {{val|0 -37 -46 -75 -47}}]


POTE generator: ~9/7 = 435.082
POTE generator: ~9/7 = 435.082
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= Enneadecal =
= Enneadecal =
Enneadecal temperament tempers out the enneadeca, |-14 -19 19>, and as a consequence has a period of 1/19 octave. This is because the enneadeca is the amount by which nineteen just minor thirds fall short of an octave. If to this we add 4375/4374 we get the 7-limit temperament we are considering here, but note should be taken of the fact that it makes for a reasonable 5-limit microtemperament also, where the generator can be 25/24, 27/25, 10/9, 5/4 or 3/2. To this we may add possible 7-limit generators such as 225/224, 15/14 or 9/7. Since enneadecal tempers out 703125/702464, the amount by which 81/80 falls short of three stacked 225/224, we can equate the 225/224 generator with (81/80)^(1/3). This is the interval needed to adjust the 1/3 comma meantone flat fifths and major thirds of [[19edo]] up to just ones. [[171edo]] is a good tuning for either the 5 or 7 limits, and [[494edo]] shows how to extend the temperament to the 11 or 13 limit, where it is accurate but very complex. Fans of near-perfect fifths may want to use [[665edo]] for a tuning.
Enneadecal temperament tempers out the enneadeca, {{monzo|-14 -19 19}}, and as a consequence has a period of 1/19 octave. This is because the enneadeca is the amount by which nineteen just minor thirds fall short of an octave. If to this we add 4375/4374 we get the 7-limit temperament we are considering here, but note should be taken of the fact that it makes for a reasonable 5-limit microtemperament also, where the generator can be 25/24, 27/25, 10/9, 5/4 or 3/2. To this we may add possible 7-limit generators such as 225/224, 15/14 or 9/7. Since enneadecal tempers out 703125/702464, the amount by which 81/80 falls short of three stacked 225/224, we can equate the 225/224 generator with (81/80)^(1/3). This is the interval needed to adjust the 1/3 comma meantone flat fifths and major thirds of [[19edo]] up to just ones. [[171edo]] is a good tuning for either the 5 or 7 limits, and [[494edo]] shows how to extend the temperament to the 11 or 13 limit, where it is accurate but very complex. Fans of near-perfect fifths may want to use [[665edo]] for a tuning.


[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 703125/702464
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 703125/702464


[[Mapping]]: [<19 0 14 -37|, <0 1 1 3|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val|19 0 14 -37}}, {{val|0 1 1 3}}]


[[Wedgie]]: <<19 19 57 -14 37 79||
[[Wedgie]]: {{multival|19 19 57 -14 37 79}}


Mapping generators: ~28/27, ~3
Mapping generators: ~28/27, ~3


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 701.880
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 701.880


[[EDO|Vals]]: {{Val list| 19, 152, 171, 665, 836, 1007, 2185 }}
[[Vals]]: {{Val list| 19, 152, 171, 665, 836, 1007, 2185 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.010954
[[Badness]]: 0.010954
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Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 234375/234256
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 234375/234256


Mapping: [<38 0 28 -74 11|, <0 1 1 3 2|]
Mapping: [{{val|38 0 28 -74 11}}, {{val|0 1 1 3 2}}]


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.881
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.881
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Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374, 31250/31213
Comma list: 3025/3024, 4096/4095, 4375/4374, 31250/31213


Mapping: [<38 0 28 -74 11 502|, <0 1 1 3 2 -6|]
Mapping: [{{val|38 0 28 -74 11 502}}, {{val|0 1 1 3 2 -6}}]


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.986
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.986