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Revision as of 21:55, 20 April 2021
104edo divides the octave into 104 parts of size 11.5385 cents each.
Theory
104edo has two different equally viable 5-limit vals, and both are useful. The flat major third val, ⟨104 165 241] (patent val), tempers out 3125/3072, and supports magic temperament. The sharp major third val, ⟨104 165 242] (104c val), tempers out 2048/2025 and supports diaschismic temperament.
104edo with the flat third is especially notable as an excellent tuning for magic temperament, providing the optimal patent val for 11-limit magic and the 13-limit magic extension necromancy. In the 5-limit it tempers out the magic comma, 3125/3072; in the 7-limit, it tempers out 225/224, 245/243 and 875/864; and in the 11-limit, 100/99, 896/891, 385/384 and 540/539. It provides an excellent tuning also for the rank three temperaments pairing 100/99 with 225/224 (apollo temperament), 245/243 or 875/864, or the rank four temperament tempering out 100/99, for which it gives the optimal patent val.
104 with the sharp third is excellent for 11, 13, or 17 limit diaschismic. It tempers out 2048/2025 in the 5-limit, 126/125 and 5120/5103 in the 7-limit, 176/175 and 896/891 in the 11-limit, 196/195 and 364/363 in the 13-limit and 136/135 and 256/255 in the 17-limit.
104 is also notable as a no-fives system; on 2.3.7.11.13, it tempers out 352/351, 364/363, 896/891, 2197/2187, 16807/16731, 20449/20412, 21632/21609, 26411/26364 and 10648/10647. It is the optimal patent val for the 17&87 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament tempering out 352/351, 364/363 and 2197/2187, which has a 13/9 generator, three of which give a 3.
Rank two temperaments
In patent val
| Periods per octave |
Generator | Cents | Associated ratio | Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 33\104 | 380.769 | 5/4 | Magic / necromancy / divination |
| 51\104 | 588.462 | 7/5 | Untriton | |
| 4 | 9\104 | 103.846 | 18/17 | Undim |
In 104c val
| Periods per octave |
Generator (reduced) |
Cents (reduced) |
Associated ratio (reduced) |
Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 21\104 | 242.308 | 147/128 | Septiquarter |
| 27\104 | 311.538 | 6/5 | Oolong | |
| 47\104 | 542.308 | 15/11 | Casablanca / marrakesh | |
| 2 | 43\104 | 496.154 | 4/3 | Diaschismic |
| 8 | 50\104 (2\104) |
576.923 (23.077) |
121/84 (78/77) |
Octowerck (7- or 11-limit) |
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate Ratios | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| of 2.3.7.11.13.17.19.25 Subgroup |
Additional Ratios of 5 Tending Sharp (104c Val) |
Additional Ratios of 5 Tending Flat (Patent Val) | ||
| 0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | 126/125 | 225/224, 100/99 |
| 1 | 11.538 | 225/224, 100/99 | ||
| 2 | 23.077 | 64/63 | 81/80, 225/224 | 50/49 |
| 3 | 34.615 | 49/48, 50/49 | 81/80, 126/125 | |
| 4 | 46.154 | 36/35, 50/49 | ||
| 5 | 57.692 | 28/27, 33/32 | 25/24, 36/35 | |
| 6 | 69.231 | 25/24 | ||
| 7 | 80.769 | 22/21 | 25/24, 21/20 | 20/19 |
| 8 | 92.308 | 19/18 | ||
| 9 | 103.846 | 17/16, 18/17 | ||
| 10 | 115.385 | 16/15, 15/14 | ||
| 11 | 126.923 | 14/13 | 15/14 | |
| 12 | 138.462 | 13/12 | ||
| 13 | 150.000 | 12/11 | ||
| 14 | 161.538 | 11/10 | ||
| 15 | 173.077 | 21/19 | 10/9, 11/10 | |
| 16 | 184.615 | 10/9 | ||
| 17 | 196.154 | 28/25, 19/17 | ||
| 18 | 207.692 | 9/8 | 17/15 | |
| 19 | 219.231 | 25/22 | 17/15 | |
| 20 | 230.769 | 8/7 | ||
| 21 | 242.308 | 15/13 | ||
| 22 | 253.846 | 22/19 | 15/13 | |
| 23 | 265.385 | 7/6 | ||
| 24 | 276.923 | 75/64 | 20/17 | |
| 25 | 288.462 | 32/27, 13/11 | 20/17 | |
| 26 | 300.000 | 25/21, 19/16 | ||
| 27 | 311.538 | 6/5 | ||
| 28 | 323.077 | 6/5 | ||
| 29 | 334.615 | 17/14 | ||
| 30 | 346.154 | 11/9, 39/32 | ||
| 31 | 357.692 | 27/22, 16/13 | ||
| 32 | 369.231 | 26/21, 21/17 | ||
| 33 | 380.769 | 5/4 | ||
| 34 | 392.308 | 5/4 | ||
| 35 | 403.846 | 63/50, 24/19 | 19/15 | |
| 36 | 415.385 | 81/64, 14/11 | ||
| 37 | 426.923 | 32/25 | ||
| 38 | 438.462 | 9/7 | ||
| 39 | 450.000 | 22/17 | 13/10 | |
| 40 | 461.538 | 17/13 | 13/10 | |
| 41 | 473.077 | 21/16 | ||
| 42 | 484.615 | |||
| 43 | 496.154 | 4/3 | ||
| 44 | 507.692 | |||
| 45 | 519.231 | 27/20 | ||
| 46 | 530.769 | 19/14 | 27/20, 15/11 | |
| 47 | 542.308 | 26/19 | 15/11 | |
| 48 | 553.846 | 11/8 | ||
| 49 | 565.385 | 18/13 | ||
| 50 | 576.923 | 7/5 | ||
| 51 | 588.462 | 45/32, 7/5 | ||
| 52 | 600.000 | 17/12, 24/17 | 45/32, 64/45 | |
| … | … | … | … | … |
Since 104edo has a step of 11.5385 cents, it also allows one to use its MOS scales as circulating temperaments. As 8*13edo, it is the first edo where two smaller edos it allows one to use as circulating temperaments are Fibonacci edos.
| Tones | Pattern | L:s |
|---|---|---|
| 5 | 4L 1s | 21:20 |
| 6 | 2L 4s | 18:17 |
| 7 | 6L 1s | 15:14 |
| 8 | 8edo | equal |
| 9 | 5L 4s | 12:11 |
| 10 | 4L 6s | 11:10 |
| 11 | 5L 6s | 10:9 |
| 12 | 8L 4s | 9:8 |
| 13 | 13edo | equal |
| 14 | 4L 10s | 8:7 |
| 15 | 14L 1s | 7:6 |
| 16 | 8L 8s | |
| 17 | 2L 15s | |
| 18 | 12L 6s | 6:5 |
| 19 | 9L 10s | |
| 20 | 4L 16s | |
| 21 | 20L 1s | 5:4 |
| 22 | 16L 6s | |
| 23 | 12L 11s | |
| 24 | 8L 16s | |
| 25 | 4L 21s | |
| 26 | 26edo | equal |
| 27 | 23L 4s | 4:3 |
| 28 | 20L 8s | |
| 29 | 17L 12s | |
| 30 | 14L 16s | |
| 31 | 11L 20s | |
| 32 | 8L 24s | |
| 33 | 5L 28s | |
| 34 | 2L 32s | |
| 35 | 34L 1s | 3:2 |
| 36 | 32L 4s | |
| 37 | 30L 7s | |
| 38 | 28L 10s | |
| 39 | 26L 13s | |
| 40 | 24L 16s | |
| 41 | 22L 19s | |
| 42 | 20L 22s | |
| 43 | 18L 25s | |
| 44 | 16L 28s | |
| 45 | 14L 31s | |
| 46 | 12L 34s | |
| 47 | 10L 37s | |
| 48 | 8L 40s | |
| 49 | 6L 43s | |
| 50 | 4L 46s | |
| 51 | 2L 46s | |
| 52 | 52edo | equal |
| 53 | 51L 2s | 2:1 |
| 54 | 50L 4s | |
| 55 | 49L 6s | |
| 56 | 48L 8s | |
| 57 | 47L 10s | |
| 58 | 46L 12s | |
| 59 | 45L 14s | |
| 60 | 44L 16s | |
| 61 | 43L 18s | |
| 62 | 42L 20s | |
| 63 | 41L 22s | |
| 64 | 40L 24s | |
| 65 | 39L 26s | |
| 66 | 38L 28s | |
| 67 | 37L 30s | |
| 68 | 36L 32s | |
| 69 | 35L 34s | |
| 70 | 34L 36s | |
| 71 | 33L 38s | |
| 72 | 32L 40s | |
| 73 | 31L 42s | |
| 74 | 30L 44s | |
| 75 | 29L 46s | |
| 76 | 28L 48s | |
| 77 | 27L 50s | |
| 78 | 26L 52s | |
| 79 | 25L 54s | |
| 80 | 24L 56s | |
| 81 | 23L 58s | |
| 82 | 22L 60s | |
| 83 | 21L 62s |