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* [[21edo]]'s P1-M2-M3-M5 (in oneiro interval classes) approximates 9:10:11:13 better than the corresponding 13edo chord does. 21edo will serve those who like the combination of neogothic minor thirds (285.71¢) and Baroque diatonic semitones (114.29¢, close to quarter-comma meantone's 117.11¢).
* [[21edo]]'s P1-M2-M3-M5 (in oneiro interval classes) approximates 9:10:11:13 better than the corresponding 13edo chord does. 21edo will serve those who like the combination of neogothic minor thirds (285.71¢) and Baroque diatonic semitones (114.29¢, close to quarter-comma meantone's 117.11¢).
* [[34edo]] is close to optimal for [[5L 3s#Petrtri|petrtri]] temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢ and 0.73¢ sharp of the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 POTE (i.e. optimal for the chord 9:10:11:13, spelled as R-M2-M3-M5 in oneirotonic intervals) petrtri generator of 458.0950¢.
* [[34edo]] is close to optimal for petrtri temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢.
* If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo.
* If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo.


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Buzzard is an oneirotonic temperament in the ultrahard-to-[[Step ratio|pseudopaucitonic]] range.
Buzzard is an oneirotonic temperament in the ultrahard-to-[[Step ratio|pseudopaucitonic]] range.


In the broad sense, [[Buzzard]] can be viewed as any tuning that divides the 3rd harmonic into 4 equal parts. [[23edo]], [[28edo]] and [[33edo]] can nominally be viewed as supporting it, but are still very flat and in an ambiguous zone between A-Team and true Buzzard in terms of harmonies. [[38edo]] & [[43edo]] are good compromises between melodic utility and harmonic accuracy, as the small step is still large enough to be obvious to the untrained ear, but [[48edo]] is where it really comes into it's own in terms of harmonies, providing not only an excellent [[3/2]], but also [[7/4]] and [[The_Archipelago|archipelago]] harmonies, as by dividing the 5th in 4 it obviously also divides it in two as well.  
In the broad sense, [[Buzzard]] can be viewed as any tuning that divides the 3rd harmonic into 4 equal parts. [[23edo]], [[28edo]] and [[33edo]] can nominally be viewed as supporting it, but are still very flat and in an ambiguous zone between 18edo and true Buzzard in terms of harmonies. [[38edo]] & [[43edo]] are good compromises between melodic utility and harmonic accuracy, as the small step is still large enough to be obvious to the untrained ear, but [[48edo]] is where it really comes into it's own in terms of harmonies, providing not only an excellent [[3/2]], but also [[7/4]] and [[The_Archipelago|archipelago]] harmonies, as by dividing the 5th in 4 it obviously also divides it in two as well.  


Beyond that, it's a question of which intervals you want to favor. [[53edo]] has an essentially perfect [[3/2]], [[58edo]] gives the lowest overall error for the Barbados triads 10:13:15 and 26:30:39, while [[63edo]] does the same for the basic 4:6:7 triad. You could in theory go up to [[83edo]] if you want to favor the [[7/4]] above everything else, but beyond that, general accuracy drops off rapidly and you might as well be playing equal pentatonic.
Beyond that, it's a question of which intervals you want to favor. [[53edo]] has an essentially perfect [[3/2]], [[58edo]] gives the lowest overall error for the Barbados triads 10:13:15 and 26:30:39, while [[63edo]] does the same for the basic 4:6:7 triad. You could in theory go up to [[83edo]] if you want to favor the [[7/4]] above everything else, but beyond that, general accuracy drops off rapidly and you might as well be playing equal pentatonic.
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18edo may be a better basis for a style of oneirotonic primodality using comma sharp and comma flat fifths than 13edo (in particular diesis sharp and diesis flat fifths; diesis is a category with a central region of 32 to 40¢). In 18edo both the major fifth (+31.4¢) and the minor fifth (-35.3¢) are about a diesis off from a just perfect fifth. In 13edo only the major fifth is a diesis sharp, and it is +36.5¢ off from just; so there's less wiggle room for a [[neji]] if you want every major fifth to be at most a diesis sharp).  
18edo may be a better basis for a style of oneirotonic primodality using comma sharp and comma flat fifths than 13edo (in particular diesis sharp and diesis flat fifths; diesis is a category with a central region of 32 to 40¢). In 18edo both the major fifth (+31.4¢) and the minor fifth (-35.3¢) are about a diesis off from a just perfect fifth. In 13edo only the major fifth is a diesis sharp, and it is +36.5¢ off from just; so there's less wiggle room for a [[neji]] if you want every major fifth to be at most a diesis sharp).  


31nejis and 34nejis (though 34edo is not an A-Team tuning) also provide opportunities to use dieses directly, since 1\31 (38.71¢) and 1\34 (35.29¢) are both dieses.
31nejis and 34nejis also provide opportunities to use dieses directly, since 1\31 (38.71¢) and 1\34 (35.29¢) are both dieses.
=== Primodal chords ===
=== Primodal chords ===
Some relatively low-complexity oneirotonic-inspired primodal chords. They are grouped by [[prime family]].
Some relatively low-complexity oneirotonic-inspired primodal chords. They are grouped by [[prime family]].