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=== Petrtri (13&21) ===

Petrtri tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have less extreme L-to-s ratios than A-Team tunings, between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of oneirotonic tunings remains relatively unexplored. In these tunings,

* the large step of oneirotonic tends to be intermediate in size between [[10/9]] and [[11/10]]; the small step size is a semitone close to [[17/16]], about 92¢ to 114¢. In particular, [[21edo]]'s small step (114.29¢) is close to the diatonic semitone in quarter-comma meantone (117.11¢), which may help give the tuning a Baroque vibe despite the fact that the major mosthirds are now flat neutral thirds.

* the large step of oneirotonic tends to be intermediate in size between [[10/9]] and [[11/10]]; the small step size is a semitone close to [[17/16]], about 92¢ to 114¢.

* The major mosthird (made of two large steps) in these tunings tends to be more of a neutral third, ranging from 6\21 (342¢) to 4\13 (369¢), and the temperament interprets it as both [[11/9]] and [[16/13]].

The three major edos in this range, [[13edo]], [[21edo]] and [[34edo]], all nominally support petrtri, ~~but~~ [[34edo]] is close to optimal for the temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢ and 0.73¢ sharp of the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 POTE (i.e. optimal for the chord 9:10:11:13, spelled as R-M2-M3-M5 in oneirotonic intervals) petrtri generator of 458.0950¢. If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo. Close-to-optimal petrtri tunings such as 34edo may be particularly useful for the Sarnathian mode, as Sarnathian in these tunings uniquely approximates four over-2 harmonics plausibly, namely 17/16, 5/4, 11/8, and 13/8.

The three major edos in this range, [[13edo]], [[21edo]] and [[34edo]], all nominally support petrtri.

* [[13edo]] only nominally supports it; its approximation of 9:10:11:13 is quite weak and tempers 11/9 to a 369¢ submajor third, which may not be desirable.

* [[21edo]] is good if you like the combination of neogothic minor thirds (285.71¢) and Baroque diatonic semitones (114.29¢).

* [[34edo]] is close to optimal for the temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢ and 0.73¢ sharp of the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 POTE (i.e. optimal for the chord 9:10:11:13, spelled as R-M2-M3-M5 in oneirotonic intervals) petrtri generator of 458.0950¢.

* If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo.

Close-to-optimal petrtri tunings such as 34edo may be particularly useful for the Sarnathian mode, as Sarnathian in these tunings uniquely approximates four over-2 harmonics plausibly, namely 17/16, 5/4, 11/8, and 13/8.

The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of oneirotonic are as follows in various petrtri tunings.

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 === Petrtri (13&21) ===
 Petrtri tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have less extreme L-to-s ratios than A-Team tunings, between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of oneirotonic tunings remains relatively unexplored. In these tunings,
-* the large step of oneirotonic tends to be intermediate in size between [[10/9]] and [[11/10]]; the small step size is a semitone close to [[17/16]], about 92¢ to 114¢. In particular, [[21edo]]'s small step (114.29¢) is close to the diatonic semitone in quarter-comma meantone (117.11¢), which may help give the tuning a Baroque vibe despite the fact that the major mosthirds are now flat neutral thirds.
+* the large step of oneirotonic tends to be intermediate in size between [[10/9]] and [[11/10]]; the small step size is a semitone close to [[17/16]], about 92¢ to 114¢.
 * The major mosthird (made of two large steps) in these tunings tends to be more of a neutral third, ranging from 6\21 (342¢) to 4\13 (369¢), and the temperament interprets it as both [[11/9]] and [[16/13]].
-The three major edos in this range, [[13edo]], [[21edo]] and [[34edo]], all nominally support petrtri, but [[34edo]] is close to optimal for the temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢ and 0.73¢ sharp of the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 POTE (i.e. optimal for the chord 9:10:11:13, spelled as R-M2-M3-M5 in oneirotonic intervals) petrtri generator of 458.0950¢. If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo. Close-to-optimal petrtri tunings such as 34edo may be particularly useful for the Sarnathian mode, as Sarnathian in these tunings uniquely approximates four over-2 harmonics plausibly, namely 17/16, 5/4, 11/8, and 13/8.
+The three major edos in this range, [[13edo]], [[21edo]] and [[34edo]], all nominally support petrtri.
+* [[13edo]] only nominally supports it; its approximation of 9:10:11:13 is quite weak and tempers 11/9 to a 369¢ submajor third, which may not be desirable.
+* [[21edo]] is good if you like the combination of neogothic minor thirds (285.71¢) and Baroque diatonic semitones (114.29¢).
+* [[34edo]] is close to optimal for the temperament, with a generator only 0.33¢ flat of the 2.5.9.11.13.17 [[POTE]] petrtri generator of 459.1502¢ and 0.73¢ sharp of the 2.9/5.11/5.13/5 POTE (i.e. optimal for the chord 9:10:11:13, spelled as R-M2-M3-M5 in oneirotonic intervals) petrtri generator of 458.0950¢.
+* If you only care about optimizing 9:10:11:13, then [[55edo]]'s 21\55 (458.182¢) is even better, but 55 is a bit big for a usable edo.
+Close-to-optimal petrtri tunings such as 34edo may be particularly useful for the Sarnathian mode, as Sarnathian in these tunings uniquely approximates four over-2 harmonics plausibly, namely 17/16, 5/4, 11/8, and 13/8.
 The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of oneirotonic are as follows in various petrtri tunings.