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::::::::::: I am confused. You mean this super common (Scarlatti and Bach are certainly common practice) progression? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%E2%80%93IV%E2%80%93V%E2%80%93I#:~:text=In%20music%2C%20I%E2%80%93IV%E2%80%93,an%20exposition%20of%20the%20tonality%3A&text=The%20progression%20is%20also%20often,end%20of%20works%20and%20sections. --[[User:Rperlner|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner|talk]]) 23:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

:::::::::::: Yes, that is exactly the chord progression I'm referring to. If Bach used it, then that means the so-called "purists" were wrong. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

:::::::::::: Yes, that is exactly the chord progression I'm referring to. If Bach used it, then that means the so-called "purists" were wrong. I guess one reason that the "purists" take the stance they do is because the IIm-VM-IM is a stronger motion and is thus better suited to close out a piece in a number of ways. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

:: I know this may sound hard to believe, but in all my experimenting with different intervals, I've found that the wrong kind of interval involving small-number-ratios between the wrong two notes actually works against the formation of a sense of tonality. Conversely, a more tense-sounding interval in the right location- yes, even if the interval in question happens to be [[40/27]]- can actually strengthen your sense of tonality. Yes, intervals with small-number-ratios are vital to establishing tonality, but because of their power, they have to be well-placed within the tonal system, or otherwise the sense of tonality shifts when you don't want it to. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:50, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

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 ::::::::::: I am confused. You mean this super common (Scarlatti and Bach are certainly common practice) progression? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%E2%80%93IV%E2%80%93V%E2%80%93I#:~:text=In%20music%2C%20I%E2%80%93IV%E2%80%93,an%20exposition%20of%20the%20tonality%3A&text=The%20progression%20is%20also%20often,end%20of%20works%20and%20sections. --[[User:Rperlner|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner|talk]]) 23:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
-:::::::::::: Yes, that is exactly the chord progression I'm referring to.  If Bach used it, then that means the so-called "purists" were wrong. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
+:::::::::::: Yes, that is exactly the chord progression I'm referring to.  If Bach used it, then that means the so-called "purists" were wrong.  I guess one reason that the "purists" take the stance they do is because the IIm-VM-IM is a stronger motion and is thus better suited to close out a piece in a number of ways. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 :: I know this may sound hard to believe, but in all my experimenting with different intervals, I've found that the wrong kind of interval involving small-number-ratios between the wrong two notes actually works against the formation of a sense of tonality.  Conversely, a more tense-sounding interval in the right location- yes, even if the interval in question happens to be [[40/27]]- can actually strengthen your sense of tonality.  Yes, intervals with small-number-ratios are vital to establishing tonality, but because of their power, they have to be well-placed within the tonal system, or otherwise the sense of tonality shifts when you don't want it to. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:50, 13 December 2020 (UTC)