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:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode- at least to the ears of many music theorists. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

:::: I'm not saying that complete chords on other scale degrees aren't usable at all, but you still have to be careful with the few that you can actually get away with when the Tonic chord is reduced to just the Tonic and the Mediant. A notorious example of a chord that you don't want to have in complete form under any circumstances is the Submediant chord as it contains the entire Locrian tonic chord, and makes it seem like the Submediant chord is actually the tonal center. An even more notorious example is the chord built on the flat-2 as that chord is particularly likely to be tonicized if it is in complete form, and it requires careful setups to use it even in incomplete form. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

:::: I'm not saying that complete chords on other scale degrees aren't usable at all, but you still have to be careful with the few that you can actually get away with when the Tonic chord is reduced to just the Tonic and the Mediant. A notorious example of a chord that you don't want to have in complete form under any circumstances is the Submediant chord as it contains the entire Locrian tonic chord, and makes it seem like the Submediant chord is actually the tonal center. An even more notorious example is the chord built on the flat-2 as that chord is particularly likely to be tonicized if it is in complete form, and it requires careful setups and follow-ups to use it even in incomplete form. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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	:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode- at least to the ears of many music theorists. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)		:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode- at least to the ears of many music theorists. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

	:::: I'm not saying that complete chords on other scale degrees aren't usable at all, but you still have to be careful with the few that you can actually get away with when the Tonic chord is reduced to just the Tonic and the Mediant. A notorious example of a chord that you don't want to have in complete form under any circumstances is the Submediant chord as it contains the entire Locrian tonic chord, and makes it seem like the Submediant chord is actually the tonal center. An even more notorious example is the chord built on the flat-2 as that chord is particularly likely to be tonicized if it is in complete form, and it requires careful setups to use it even in incomplete form. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 19:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)		:::: I'm not saying that complete chords on other scale degrees aren't usable at all, but you still have to be careful with the few that you can actually get away with when the Tonic chord is reduced to just the Tonic and the Mediant. A notorious example of a chord that you don't want to have in complete form under any circumstances is the Submediant chord as it contains the entire Locrian tonic chord, and makes it seem like the Submediant chord is actually the tonal center. An even more notorious example is the chord built on the flat-2 as that chord is particularly likely to be tonicized if it is in complete form, and it requires careful setups and follow-ups to use it even in incomplete form. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 19:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)