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:::I hadn’t noticed that these passages were in Locrian, but now that you mention it, I especially like the choice in your 12 EDO section as a way to set up the 2EDO passage. I do have a question regarding your general statements about using Locrian: I entirely agree that an incomplete tonic chord (lacking the 5th) is a good way to establish a tonal center. But you also say that several other chords need to be incomplete (lacking a 3rd). I’ve generally found complete triads to be entirely usable (except for the tonic) in Locrian. Why do you see the need for incomplete chords on other scale degrees? [[User:Rperlner|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner|talk]]) 18:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode- at least to the ears of many music theorists. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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	:::I hadn’t noticed that these passages were in Locrian, but now that you mention it, I especially like the choice in your 12 EDO section as a way to set up the 2EDO passage. I do have a question regarding your general statements about using Locrian: I entirely agree that an incomplete tonic chord (lacking the 5th) is a good way to establish a tonal center. But you also say that several other chords need to be incomplete (lacking a 3rd). I’ve generally found complete triads to be entirely usable (except for the tonic) in Locrian. Why do you see the need for incomplete chords on other scale degrees? [[User:Rperlner\|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner\|talk]]) 18:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)		:::I hadn’t noticed that these passages were in Locrian, but now that you mention it, I especially like the choice in your 12 EDO section as a way to set up the 2EDO passage. I do have a question regarding your general statements about using Locrian: I entirely agree that an incomplete tonic chord (lacking the 5th) is a good way to establish a tonal center. But you also say that several other chords need to be incomplete (lacking a 3rd). I’ve generally found complete triads to be entirely usable (except for the tonic) in Locrian. Why do you see the need for incomplete chords on other scale degrees? [[User:Rperlner\|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner\|talk]]) 18:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

	:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)		:::: Voice leading is one of the major concerns, and, more important than that is the need to ensure that the Tonic still retains the feeling of being the tonal center. The way most of the other chords in Locrian are structured when in their complete form often makes it seem like some other note is the actual tonal center, and that's the sort of thing that destabilizes Locrian mode- at least to the ears of many music theorists. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)