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:::::::::::: I hope the complication doesn't turn you off... I guess you really were right about musicians naming intervals in the most complicated and convoluted ways. Oh, and yes, I can think of one example where musicians have actually given a musical interval a perverse name, but I won't go into the specifics of that here. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:40, 1 December 2020 (UTC) | :::::::::::: I hope the complication doesn't turn you off... I guess you really were right about musicians naming intervals in the most complicated and convoluted ways. Oh, and yes, I can think of one example where musicians have actually given a musical interval a perverse name, but I won't go into the specifics of that here. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:40, 1 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::: Turning off..? Not at all, just the opposite: I enjoy and never miss a chance for a linguistic exercise. :-) As to the interval naming and other names, it depends on your understanding of "perverse name". To my taste, most of those names are perverse, but this is not directly related to linguistic itself, but more to the overly ''ad hoc'' manner of thinking. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 18:14 UTC'' | |||
::: Oh, great! Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list of intervals you referenced in the first paragraph of this section. It can help me to explain to you what is that very characteristic of communication problems I can see in the musicians. In the list, you can see the set of rational-number intervals and some names. Hopefully, all rational numbers in the list are irreducible fractions. What information does this page carry? Next to nothing. The only possible use is this: when you already got some interval from some other source, say, from your own calculation, you can check up: is it one of the well-known intervals or not, and, if it is, what is its well-known name? Even this information has some uncertainty, because, strictly speaking, "well-known" is something uncertain, so the only definitive information you get is this: is my interval on the Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list? :-). And yes, this is exactly what you've checked in this case. You cannot learn anything about any of the concrete commas from this page. For the contrast example, look at any good Wikipedia page. Sometimes you can start from some reference and end up with the study of an entire field of science... — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 02:06 UTC'' | ::: Oh, great! Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list of intervals you referenced in the first paragraph of this section. It can help me to explain to you what is that very characteristic of communication problems I can see in the musicians. In the list, you can see the set of rational-number intervals and some names. Hopefully, all rational numbers in the list are irreducible fractions. What information does this page carry? Next to nothing. The only possible use is this: when you already got some interval from some other source, say, from your own calculation, you can check up: is it one of the well-known intervals or not, and, if it is, what is its well-known name? Even this information has some uncertainty, because, strictly speaking, "well-known" is something uncertain, so the only definitive information you get is this: is my interval on the Huygens-Fokker Foundation's list? :-). And yes, this is exactly what you've checked in this case. You cannot learn anything about any of the concrete commas from this page. For the contrast example, look at any good Wikipedia page. Sometimes you can start from some reference and end up with the study of an entire field of science... — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], ''Tuesday 2020 December 1, 02:06 UTC'' | ||