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:: It's a long story, my research, but I developed certain things like algebra of rational numbers (not so trivial thing as it may seem) and sets of intervals and started to play with different tone systems and realized I need to visualize it and make it sound, but still thinking about what I want to get. But then I realized that I should better first implement you set of diatonic scales and modes as you describe it on your page. I think I got a very good idea on the keyboard layout and some features and understanding.

For example, let me ask you: can you, for example, having a simple composition, introduce a harmonic modulation by moving from one scale to another in the same piece? I think it is possible. Anyway, it's easier to implement and show than to explain. :-)

~~I actually~~ want ~~something~~ more ~~than a set of diatonic scales~~, ~~but it maybe early~~ to ~~discuss it now~~.

::: Maybe, but if you want more, as you seem to say, we need to cover more of the modes I know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

By the way, are you familiar with Harry Partch "tonality diamond" approach ("otonality", "utonality") and his instruments? If you are, do you have your opinion on this matter? I once found it interesting but a closer look made me very skeptical about it.

:: For example, let me ask you: can you, for example, having a simple composition, introduce a harmonic modulation by moving from one scale to another in the same piece? I think it is possible. Anyway, it's easier to implement and show than to explain. :-)

::: Yes, it is possible. However, don't be surprised if I also throw in modulation by 11/8 or 16/11- seriously, I like these two intervals for modulation to keys that are not on the same series of fifths... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

:: I actually want something more than a set of diatonic scales, but it maybe early to discuss it now.

::: Depends. I can also deal in Melodic Minor modes (think of the base mode as being like Major only with a flat third), Harmonic Minor modes, Harmonic Major modes and Neapolitan Modes to some extent. Furthermore, I do know a few things about Overtonal Acoustic modes (the base mode consists of the intervals 1/1, 9/8, 5/4, 11/8, 3/2, 13/8, 15/8, and 2/1), and Undertonal Acoustic modes (the base mode consists of the intervals 1/1, 16/15, 16/13, 4/3, 16/11, 8/5, 16/9, and 2/1), as well as the Neutral Paradiatonic Modes. I can think of two other sets of proper modes with supermajor and subminor chords, but I currently can't think of a good name for them at the moment... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

:: By the way, are you familiar with Harry Partch "tonality diamond" approach ("otonality", "utonality") and his instruments? If you are, do you have your opinion on this matter? I once found it interesting but a closer look made me very skeptical about it.

::: Harry Partch's work on the idea of Otonality and Utonality has actually been an influence for me, but so too has the work of Hugo Riemann. I don't know what to say about his work on the tonality diamond and his instruments, however, I do disagree with his choices in terms of preferred EDO from the sounds of things. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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 :: It's a long story, my research, but I developed certain things like algebra of rational numbers (not so trivial thing as it may seem) and sets of intervals and started to play with different tone systems and realized I need to visualize it and make it sound, but still thinking about what I want to get. But then I realized that I should better first implement you set of diatonic scales and modes as you describe it on your page. I think I got a very good idea on the keyboard layout and some features and understanding.
-For example, let me ask you: can you, for example, having a simple composition, introduce a harmonic modulation by moving from one scale to another in the same piece? I think it is possible. Anyway, it's easier to implement and show than to explain. :-)
-I actually want something more than a set of diatonic scales, but it maybe early to discuss it now.
+::: Maybe, but if you want more, as you seem to say, we need to cover more of the modes I know. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
-By the way, are you familiar with Harry Partch "tonality diamond" approach ("otonality", "utonality") and his instruments? If you are, do you have your opinion on this matter? I once found it interesting but a closer look made me very skeptical about it.
+:: For example, let me ask you: can you, for example, having a simple composition, introduce a harmonic modulation by moving from one scale to another in the same piece? I think it is possible. Anyway, it's easier to implement and show than to explain. :-)
+::: Yes, it is possible.  However, don't be surprised if I also throw in modulation by 11/8 or 16/11- seriously, I like these two intervals for modulation to keys that are not on the same series of fifths... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
+:: I actually want something more than a set of diatonic scales, but it maybe early to discuss it now.
+::: Depends.  I can also deal in Melodic Minor modes (think of the base mode as being like Major only with a flat third), Harmonic Minor modes, Harmonic Major modes and Neapolitan Modes to some extent.  Furthermore, I do know a few things about Overtonal Acoustic modes (the base mode consists of the intervals 1/1, 9/8, 5/4, 11/8, 3/2, 13/8, 15/8, and 2/1), and Undertonal Acoustic modes (the base mode consists of the intervals 1/1, 16/15, 16/13, 4/3, 16/11, 8/5, 16/9, and 2/1), as well as the Neutral Paradiatonic Modes.  I can think of two other sets of proper modes with supermajor and subminor chords, but I currently can't think of a good name for them at the moment... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
+:: By the way, are you familiar with Harry Partch "tonality diamond" approach ("otonality", "utonality") and his instruments? If you are, do you have your opinion on this matter? I once found it interesting but a closer look made me very skeptical about it.
+::: Harry Partch's work on the idea of Otonality and Utonality has actually been an influence for me, but so too has the work of Hugo Riemann.  I don't know what to say about his work on the tonality diamond and his instruments, however, I do disagree with his choices in terms of preferred EDO from the sounds of things. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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