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:::::::: Even I think that the change-tuning-on-the-fly approach is still important- for both large EDOs like 159edo and for just systems. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 07:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

::::::::: Oh yes, it's a valid point. As to the "large EDOs", I was about to point out, even with that "locally conservative" to the fingering feature, too large EDO makes the system not very manageable; here is how it looks: say, diatonic fingering patterns are preserved, but their locations in different octaves on left and right become more and more distant. Apparently, the same physical space can take less and less of the tonal range. That's why I was about to ask: how can you practically deal even with 53-EDO, not only 159-EDO? Maybe you have some electronic method of entering data without actually playing on any instrument?

::::::: Nice reference material on diatonic scales! Interestingly how EDO simplify things: for any 7-element diatonic system rendered as any EDO, it would be enough to describe only one mode, and then say: all other modes are derived by starting from the next element and then cycling through the remaining 6 sequential elements, and then shift by one until you get all 7 modern "natural" diatonic modes. It's remarkable that many musicians don't capture this simple idea from a school where they are taught each natural mode separately.

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 :::::::: Even I think that the change-tuning-on-the-fly approach is still important- for both large EDOs like 159edo and for just systems. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 07:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
+::::::::: Oh yes, it's a valid point. As to the "large EDOs", I was about to point out, even with that "locally conservative" to the fingering feature, too large EDO makes the system not very manageable; here is how it looks: say, diatonic fingering patterns are preserved, but their locations in different octaves on left and right become more and more distant. Apparently, the same physical space can take less and less of the tonal range. That's why I was about to ask: how can you practically deal even with 53-EDO, not only 159-EDO? Maybe you have some electronic method of entering data without actually playing on any instrument?
 ::::::: Nice reference material on diatonic scales! Interestingly how EDO simplify things: for any 7-element diatonic system rendered as any EDO, it would be enough to describe only one mode, and then say: all other modes are derived by starting from the next element and then cycling through the remaining 6 sequential elements, and then shift by one until you get all 7 modern "natural" diatonic modes. It's remarkable that many musicians don't capture this simple idea from a school where they are taught each natural mode separately.