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: No offense intended. Indeed I think it's fine to have different views present on the page, but you need to be coherent. To treat 33/32 a type of minor second, you have to further construct that 11/8 is a type of diminished fifth, and the "undecimal comma" in that system would be 8192/8019. So in total four pages need to be changed (33/32, 64/33, 11/8 and 16/11) and one need to be created (8192/8019). [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

:: For starters, if 33/32 is a type of second, it would be a subminor second, not a minor second. I should also point out 225/128, which serves as an augmented sixth in just Neapolitan Scales due to 256/255 serving as a diminished third. The common factor in all this? Both intervals fall in ranges where intervals are likely to see multiple ~~diatonic~~ functions on a fairly regular basis. In contrast, 11/8 more commonly functions as a fourth than as a fifth- in fact, I call it a "paramajor fourth" in a nod to both it's paradiatonic function and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth the term for that interval found on this page]. You are right in pointing out the need for coherency- but does that mean we should then call 3/2 the "diminished sixth"? I mean, such a view is possible when one considers 12edo... On this front, I'm in the process of making a newer version of a guide to the diatonic functions of various intervals. I showed Xenwolf the preliminary version of this map [[User_talk:Xenwolf#Diatonic_and_Paradiatonic_Function_Map|here]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

:: For starters, if 33/32 is a type of second, it would be a subminor second, not a minor second. I should also point out 225/128, which serves as an augmented sixth in just Neapolitan Scales due to 256/255 serving as a diminished third. The common factor in all this? Both intervals fall in ranges where intervals are likely to see multiple functions on a fairly regular basis. In contrast, 11/8 more commonly functions as a fourth than as a fifth- in fact, I call it a "paramajor fourth" in a nod to both it's paradiatonic function and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth the term for that interval found on this page]. You are right in pointing out the need for coherency- but does that mean we should then call 3/2 the "diminished sixth"? I mean, such a view is possible when one considers 12edo... On this front, I'm in the process of making a newer version of a guide to the diatonic functions of various intervals. I showed Xenwolf the preliminary version of this map [[User_talk:Xenwolf#Diatonic_and_Paradiatonic_Function_Map|here]]. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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	: No offense intended. Indeed I think it's fine to have different views present on the page, but you need to be coherent. To treat 33/32 a type of minor second, you have to further construct that 11/8 is a type of diminished fifth, and the "undecimal comma" in that system would be 8192/8019. So in total four pages need to be changed (33/32, 64/33, 11/8 and 16/11) and one need to be created (8192/8019). [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 15:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)		: No offense intended. Indeed I think it's fine to have different views present on the page, but you need to be coherent. To treat 33/32 a type of minor second, you have to further construct that 11/8 is a type of diminished fifth, and the "undecimal comma" in that system would be 8192/8019. So in total four pages need to be changed (33/32, 64/33, 11/8 and 16/11) and one need to be created (8192/8019). [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 15:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

	:: For starters, if 33/32 is a type of second, it would be a subminor second, not a minor second. I should also point out 225/128, which serves as an augmented sixth in just Neapolitan Scales due to 256/255 serving as a diminished third. The common factor in all this? Both intervals fall in ranges where intervals are likely to see multiple ~~diatonic~~ functions on a fairly regular basis. In contrast, 11/8 more commonly functions as a fourth than as a fifth- in fact, I call it a "paramajor fourth" in a nod to both it's paradiatonic function and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth the term for that interval found on this page]. You are right in pointing out the need for coherency- but does that mean we should then call 3/2 the "diminished sixth"? I mean, such a view is possible when one considers 12edo... On this front, I'm in the process of making a newer version of a guide to the diatonic functions of various intervals. I showed Xenwolf the preliminary version of this map [[User_talk:Xenwolf#Diatonic_and_Paradiatonic_Function_Map\|here]]. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)		:: For starters, if 33/32 is a type of second, it would be a subminor second, not a minor second. I should also point out 225/128, which serves as an augmented sixth in just Neapolitan Scales due to 256/255 serving as a diminished third. The common factor in all this? Both intervals fall in ranges where intervals are likely to see multiple functions on a fairly regular basis. In contrast, 11/8 more commonly functions as a fourth than as a fifth- in fact, I call it a "paramajor fourth" in a nod to both it's paradiatonic function and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_fourth_and_minor_fifth the term for that interval found on this page]. You are right in pointing out the need for coherency- but does that mean we should then call 3/2 the "diminished sixth"? I mean, such a view is possible when one considers 12edo... On this front, I'm in the process of making a newer version of a guide to the diatonic functions of various intervals. I showed Xenwolf the preliminary version of this map [[User_talk:Xenwolf#Diatonic_and_Paradiatonic_Function_Map\|here]]. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)