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== Representations of Just Intervals == | == Representations of Just Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! Degree | |||
! Cents | |||
! Nearest Ratio | |||
! Error | |||
! 17-Limit Ratios <ref>based on the above description of 18-EDO as a 2.9.75.21.55.39.51 subgroup temperament</ref> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
|0.00 | | 0.00 | ||
| 1/1 | |||
| 0 | |||
| 1/1 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | |||
| 66.67 | |||
| 27/26 | |||
| +1.329 | |||
| 78/75, 75/72 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | |||
| 133.33 | |||
| 27/25 | |||
| +0.096 | |||
| 51/55, 42/39 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | |||
| 200 | |||
| 9/8 | |||
| -3.910 | |||
| 9/8 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | |||
| 266.67 | |||
| 7/6 | |||
| -0.204 | |||
| 75/64 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | |||
| 333.33 | |||
| 17/14 or 40/33 | |||
| -2.796 +0.293 | |||
| 39/32 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 | |||
| 400 | |||
| 5/4 or 44/35 | |||
| +13.686 +3.822 | |||
| 64/55 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | |||
| 466.67 | |||
| 21/16 | |||
| -4.114 | |||
| 21/16 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 8 | |||
| 533.33 | |||
| 15/11 | |||
| -3.617 | |||
| 102/75 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | |||
| 600 | |||
| 17/12 or 24/17 | |||
| -3.000 +3.000 | |||
| 17/12 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | |||
| 666.67 | |||
| 22/15 | |||
| +3.617 | |||
| 75/51 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | |||
| 733.33 | |||
| 32/21 | |||
| +4.114 | |||
| 32/21 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | |||
| 800 | |||
| 8/5 or 35/22 | |||
| -13.686 -3.822 | |||
| 51/32 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 13 | |||
| 866.67 | |||
| 28/17 or 33/20 | |||
| +2.796 -0.293 | |||
| 64/39 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | |||
| 933.33 | |||
| 12/7 | |||
| +0.204 | |||
| 55/32 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | |||
| 1000 | |||
| 16/9 | |||
| +3.910 | |||
| 16/9 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | |||
| 1066.67 | |||
| 50/27 | |||
| -0.096 | |||
| 39/21 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 17 | |||
| 1133.33 | |||
| 52/27 | |||
| -1.329 | |||
| 75/39 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | |||
| 1200 | |||
| 2/1 | |||
| 0 | |||
| 2/1** | |||
|} | |} | ||
<references/> | |||
[[File:18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|alt=18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png]] | [[File:18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|alt=18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png]] | ||
== Commas == | == Commas == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | 18 EDO [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[Comma|commas]]. (Note: This assumes the [[val]] < 18 29 42 51 62 67 |.) | ||
! | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
! | ! [[Ratio]] | ||
! | ! [[Monzo]] | ||
![[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]] | ! [[Cents]] | ||
! | ! [[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]] | ||
! | ! Name 1 | ||
! Name 2 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 128/125 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | <nowiki> | 7 0 -3 </nowiki>> | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 41.06 | | style="text-align:right;" | 41.06 | ||
| Trigu | |||
| Diesis | |||
| Augmented Comma | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | style="text-align:center;" | ??? | ||
| |<nowiki> | 23 6 -14 </nowiki>> | | style="text-align:left;" | <nowiki> | 23 6 -14 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.34 | | style="text-align:right;" | 3.34 | ||
| Sasa-sepbigu | |||
| Vishnuzma | |||
| Semisuper | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 50/49 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | <nowiki> | 1 0 2 -2 </nowiki>> | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 34.98 | | style="text-align:right;" | 34.98 | ||
| Biruyo | |||
| Tritonic Diesis | |||
| Jubilisma | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 686/675 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | <nowiki> | 1 -3 -2 3 </nowiki>> | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 27.99 | | style="text-align:right;" | 27.99 | ||
| Trizo-agugu | |||
| Senga | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 875/864 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| -5 -3 3 1 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 21.90 | | style="text-align:right;" | 21.90 | ||
| Zotriyo | |||
| Keema | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 1728/1715 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| 6 3 -1 -3 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.07 | | style="text-align:right;" | 13.07 | ||
| Triru-agu | |||
| Orwellisma | |||
| Orwell Comma | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 16875/16807 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| 0 3 4 -5 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 6.99 | | style="text-align:right;" | 6.99 | ||
| Quinru-aquadyo | |||
| Mirkwai | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 3136/3125 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| 6 0 -5 2 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 6.08 | | style="text-align:right;" | 6.08 | ||
| Zozoquingu | |||
| Hemimean | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 99/98 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| -1 2 0 -2 1 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.58 | | style="text-align:right;" | 17.58 | ||
| Loruru | |||
| Mothwellsma | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 100/99 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| 2 -2 2 0 -1 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.40 | | style="text-align:right;" | 17.40 | ||
| Luyoyo | |||
| Ptolemisma | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 65536/65219 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| 16 0 0 -2 -3 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | | style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | ||
| Satrilu-aruru | |||
| Orgonisma | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 385/384 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| -7 -1 1 1 1 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 4.50 | | style="text-align:right;" | 4.50 | ||
| Lozoyo | |||
| Keenanisma | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 9801/9800 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| -3 4 -2 -2 2 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.18 | | style="text-align:right;" | 0.18 | ||
| Bilorugu | |||
| Kalisma | |||
| Gauss' Comma | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: | | 91/90 | ||
| style="text-align:left;" | {{Monzo| -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 }} | |||
| style="text-align:right;" | 19.13 | | style="text-align:right;" | 19.13 | ||
| Thozogu | |||
| Superleap | |||
| | | | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Useful Moment-of-Symmetry Scales == | == Useful Moment-of-Symmetry Scales == | ||
Note: This list excludes scales found in [[9-EDO]]. | |||
=== Pentatonic === | |||
3L2s Father Pentatonic: 4 4 3 4 3 | 3L2s Father Pentatonic: 4 4 3 4 3 | ||
=== Hexatonic === | |||
4L2s Bicycle: 4 4 1 4 4 1 | 4L2s Bicycle: 4 4 1 4 4 1 | ||
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2L4s Rice Hexatonic: 2 5 2 2 5 2 | 2L4s Rice Hexatonic: 2 5 2 2 5 2 | ||
=== Heptatonic === | |||
4L3s Amity/Mish Heptatonic: 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 | 4L3s Amity/Mish Heptatonic: 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 | ||
=== Octatonic === | |||
5L3s Father Octatonic: 3 1 3 3 1 3 3 1 | 5L3s Father Octatonic: 3 1 3 3 1 3 3 1 | ||
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2L6s Rice Octatonic: 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 | 2L6s Rice Octatonic: 2 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 | ||
=== Decatonic === | |||
8L2s Biggie Decatonic: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 | 8L2s Biggie Decatonic: 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 | ||
=== Dodecatonic === | |||
6L 6s Hexe: 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 | 6L 6s Hexe: 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 | ||
== Application to Guitar == | == Application to Guitar == | ||
18-EDO is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you! | 18-EDO is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you! | ||
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* [http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/18ETPrelude.mp3 18ETPrelude] by [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] {{dead link}} | * [http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/18ETPrelude.mp3 18ETPrelude] by [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] {{dead link}} | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/uz1kt3k/fuga-a3-in-18et Fuga a3 in 18ET] by Aaron Andrew Hunt | * [https://soundcloud.com/uz1kt3k/fuga-a3-in-18et Fuga a3 in 18ET] by Aaron Andrew Hunt | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/prelude-in-18et.mp3 Prelude in 18et] by [http://www.chrisvaisvil.com Chris Vaisvil] | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/prelude-in-18et.mp3 Prelude in 18et] by [http://www.chrisvaisvil.com Chris Vaisvil] → [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=3 composer notes] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/daily20110401-18c-flippertronics.mp3 Flippertronics] by Chris Vaisvil | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/daily20110401-18c-flippertronics.mp3 Flippertronics] by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1402 Chris Vaisvil (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously)] | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1402 Chris Vaisvil (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously)] | ||
* [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/DoAndroidsDreamof18ED2.mp3.mp3 Do Androids Dream Of 18ED2?] by [[ | * [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/DoAndroidsDreamof18ED2.mp3.mp3 Do Androids Dream Of 18ED2?] by [[Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/fb0306486b51c270607f90a0c795d531-202.html blog entry]) | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/tomprice719/composition-of-june-2015 Composition of June 2015 by TomPrice719] | * [https://soundcloud.com/tomprice719/composition-of-june-2015 Composition of June 2015 by TomPrice719] | ||