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=MOS Scales=
=MOS Scales=


'''Mode Numbers''' provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[Modal_UDP_Notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using ''some-temperament-name'' [''some-number''] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely.
'''Mode Numbers''' provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[Modal_UDP_Notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using ''some-temperament-name''[''some-number''] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely.


[[MOSScales|MOS scales]] are formed from a segment of the [[periods_and_generators|generator-chain]], or genchain. The first note in the genchain is the tonic of the 1st mode, the 2nd note is the tonic of the 2nd mode, etc., somewhat analogous to harmonica positions.
[[MOSScales|MOS scales]] are formed from a segment of the [[periods_and_generators|generator-chain]], or genchain. The first note in the genchain is the tonic of the 1st mode, the 2nd note is the tonic of the 2nd mode, etc., somewhat analogous to harmonica positions.


For example, here are all the modes of [[Meantone|'''Meantone''']] [7], using ~3/2 as the generator. The Ls pattern is divided into two halves, for readability. The first half runs from the tonic to the 5th. and the second half runs from the 5th to the 8ve.
For example, here are all the modes of [[Meantone|'''Meantone''']][7], using ~3/2 as the generator. The Ls pattern is divided into two halves, for readability. The first half runs from the tonic to the 5th. and the second half runs from the 5th to the 8ve.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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|-
|-
| | Lydian
| | Lydian
| | 1st Meantone [7]
| | 1st Meantone[7]
| | LLLs LLs
| | LLLs LLs
| | F G A B C D E F
| | F G A B C D E F
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|-
|-
| | Ionian (major)
| | Ionian (major)
| | 2nd Meantone [7]
| | 2nd Meantone[7]
| | LLsL LLs
| | LLsL LLs
| | C D E F G A B C
| | C D E F G A B C
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|-
|-
| | Mixolydian
| | Mixolydian
| | 3rd Meantone [7]
| | 3rd Meantone[7]
| | LLsL LsL
| | LLsL LsL
| | G A B C D E F G
| | G A B C D E F G
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|-
|-
| | Dorian
| | Dorian
| | 4th Meantone [7]
| | 4th Meantone[7]
| | LsLL LsL
| | LsLL LsL
| | D E F G A B C D
| | D E F G A B C D
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|-
|-
| | Aeolian (minor)
| | Aeolian (minor)
| | 5th Meantone [7]
| | 5th Meantone[7]
| | LsLL sLL
| | LsLL sLL
| | A B C D E F G A
| | A B C D E F G A
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|-
|-
| | Phrygian
| | Phrygian
| | 6th Meantone [7]
| | 6th Meantone[7]
| | sLLL sLL
| | sLLL sLL
| | E F G A B C D E
| | E F G A B C D E
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|-
|-
| | Locrian
| | Locrian
| | 7th Meantone [7]
| | 7th Meantone[7]
| | sLLs LLL
| | sLLs LLL
| | B C D E F G A B
| | B C D E F G A B
| | F C G D A E <u>'''B'''</u>
| | F C G D A E <u>'''B'''</u>
|}
|}
4th Meantone [7] is spoken as "fourth meantone heptatonic", or possibly "fourth meantone seven". If in D, as above, it would be "D fourth meantone heptatonic".
4th Meantone[7] is spoken as "fourth meantone heptatonic", or possibly "fourth meantone seven". If in D, as above, it would be "D fourth meantone heptatonic".


The same seven modes, all with C as the tonic, to illustrate the difference between modes. Adjacent modes differ by only one note. The modes proceed from sharper (Lydian) to flatter (Locrian).
The same seven modes, all with C as the tonic, to illustrate the difference between modes. Adjacent modes differ by only one note. The modes proceed from sharper (Lydian) to flatter (Locrian).
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|-
|-
| | Lydian
| | Lydian
| | 1st Meantone [7]
| | 1st Meantone[7]
| | LLLs LLs
| | LLLs LLs
| | C D E F# G A B C
| | C D E F# G A B C
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|-
|-
| | Ionian (major)
| | Ionian (major)
| | 2nd Meantone [7]
| | 2nd Meantone[7]
| | LLsL LLs
| | LLsL LLs
| | C D E F G A B C
| | C D E F G A B C
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|-
|-
| | Mixolydian
| | Mixolydian
| | 3rd Meantone [7]
| | 3rd Meantone[7]
| | LLsL LsL
| | LLsL LsL
| | C D E F G A Bb C
| | C D E F G A Bb C
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|-
|-
| | Dorian
| | Dorian
| | 4th Meantone [7]
| | 4th Meantone[7]
| | LsLL LsL
| | LsLL LsL
| | C D Eb F G A Bb C
| | C D Eb F G A Bb C
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|-
|-
| | Aeolian (minor)
| | Aeolian (minor)
| | 5th Meantone [7]
| | 5th Meantone[7]
| | LsLL sLL
| | LsLL sLL
| | C D Eb F G Ab Bb C
| | C D Eb F G Ab Bb C
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|-
|-
| | Phrygian
| | Phrygian
| | 6th Meantone [7]
| | 6th Meantone[7]
| | sLLL sLL
| | sLLL sLL
| | C Db Eb F G Ab Bb C
| | C Db Eb F G Ab Bb C
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|-
|-
| | Locrian
| | Locrian
| | 7th Meantone [7]
| | 7th Meantone[7]
| | sLLs LLL
| | sLLs LLL
| | C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C
| | C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C
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|-
|-
| | major pentatonic
| | major pentatonic
| | 1st Meantone [5]
| | 1st Meantone[5]
| | ssL sL
| | ssL sL
| | C D E G A C
| | C D E G A C
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| | 2nd Meantone [5]
| | 2nd Meantone[5]
| | sLs sL
| | sLs sL
| | C D F G A C
| | C D F G A C
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| | 3rd Meantone [5]
| | 3rd Meantone[5]
| | sLs Ls
| | sLs Ls
| | C D F G Bb C
| | C D F G Bb C
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|-
|-
| | minor pentatonic
| | minor pentatonic
| | 4th Meantone [5]
| | 4th Meantone[5]
| | Lss Ls
| | Lss Ls
| | C Eb F G Bb C
| | C Eb F G Bb C
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| | 5th Meantone [5]
| | 5th Meantone[5]
| | LsL ss
| | LsL ss
| | C Eb F Ab Bb C
| | C Eb F Ab Bb C
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! | genchain
! | genchain
|-
|-
| | 1st Meantone [12]
| | 1st Meantone[12]
| | sLsL sLL sLsLL
| | sLsL sLL sLsLL
| | C C# D D# E E# F# G G# A A# B C
| | C C# D D# E E# F# G G# A A# B C
| | <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
| | <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
|-
|-
| | 2nd Meantone [12]
| | 2nd Meantone[12]
| | sLsL LsL sLsLL
| | sLsL LsL sLsLL
| | C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
| | C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
| | F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D# A#
| | F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D# A#
|-
|-
| | 3rd Meantone [12]
| | 3rd Meantone[12]
| | sLsL LsL sLLsL
| | sLsL LsL sLLsL
| | C C# D D# E F F# G G# A Bb B C
| | C C# D D# E F F# G G# A Bb B C
| | Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D#
| | Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G# D#
|-
|-
| | 4th Meantone [12]
| | 4th Meantone[12]
| | sLLs LsL sLLsL
| | sLLs LsL sLLsL
| | C C# D Eb E F F# G G# A Bb B C
| | C C# D Eb E F F# G G# A Bb B C
| | Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G#
| | Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C# G#
|-
|-
| | 5th Meantone [12]
| | 5th Meantone[12]
| | sLLs LsL LsLsL
| | sLLs LsL LsLsL
| | C C# D Eb E F F# G Ab A Bb B C
| | C C# D Eb E F F# G Ab A Bb B C
| | Ab Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C#
| | Ab Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F# C#
|-
|-
| | 6th Meantone [12]
| | 6th Meantone[12]
| | LsLs LsL LsLsL
| | LsLs LsL LsLsL
| | C Db D Eb E F F# G Ab A Bb B C
| | C Db D Eb E F F# G Ab A Bb B C
| | Db Ab Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F#
| | Db Ab Eb Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F#
|-
|-
| | 7th Meantone [12]
| | 7th Meantone[12]
| | LsLs LLs LsLsL
| | LsLs LLs LsLsL
| | C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C
| | C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C
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| |  
| |  
|}
|}
'''[[Sensi]] [8] aka Sepgu''' has a ~9/7 generator. The [[pergen]] is (P8, WWP5/7). Sensi[8] modes in 19edo (gen = 7\19, L = 3\19, s = 2\19):  
'''[[Sensi]][8] aka Sepgu''' has a ~9/7 generator. The [[pergen]] is (P8, WWP5/7). Sensi[8] modes in 19edo (gen = 7\19, L = 3\19, s = 2\19):  


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! | genchain
! | genchain
|-
|-
| | 1st Sensi [8]
| | 1st Sensi[8]
|1st Sepgu [8]
|1st Sepgu[8]
| | ssL ssL sL
| | ssL ssL sL
| | C Db D# E# F# G A Bb C
| | C Db D# E# F# G A Bb C
| | <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb D# G
| | <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb D# G
|-
|-
| | 2nd Sensi [8]
| | 2nd Sensi[8]
|2nd Sepgu [8]
|2nd Sepgu[8]
| | ssL sL ssL
| | ssL sL ssL
| | C Db D# E# F# G# A Bb C
| | C Db D# E# F# G# A Bb C
| | G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb D#
| | G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb D#
|-
|-
| | 3rd Sensi [8]
| | 3rd Sensi[8]
|3rd Sepgu [8]
|3rd Sepgu[8]
| | sL ssL ssL
| | sL ssL ssL
| | C Db Eb E# F# G# A Bb C
| | C Db Eb E# F# G# A Bb C
| | Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb
| | Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F# Bb
|-
|-
| | 4th Sensi [8]
| | 4th Sensi[8]
|4th Sepgu [8]
|4th Sepgu[8]
| | sL ssL sL s
| | sL ssL sL s
| | C Db Eb E# F# G# A B C
| | C Db Eb E# F# G# A B C
| | B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F#
| | B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db F#
|-
|-
| | 5th Sensi [8]
| | 5th Sensi[8]
|5th Sepgu [8]
|5th Sepgu[8]
| | sL sL ssL s
| | sL sL ssL s
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A B C
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A B C
| | Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db
| | Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A Db
|-
|-
| | 6th Sensi [8]
| | 6th Sensi[8]
|6th Sepgu [8]
|6th Sepgu[8]
| | Lss Lss Ls
| | Lss Lss Ls
| | C D Eb E# Gb G# A B C
| | C D Eb E# Gb G# A B C
| | D Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A
| | D Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E# A
|-
|-
| | 7th Sensi [8]
| | 7th Sensi[8]
|7th Sepgu [8]
|7th Sepgu[8]
| | Lss Ls Lss
| | Lss Ls Lss
| | C D Eb E# Gb G# A# B C
| | C D Eb E# Gb G# A# B C
| | A# D Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E#
| | A# D Gb B Eb G# <u>'''C'''</u> E#
|-
|-
| | 8th Sensi [8]
| | 8th Sensi[8]
|8th Sepgu [8]
|8th Sepgu[8]
| | Ls Lss Lss
| | Ls Lss Lss
| | C D Eb F Gb G# A# B C
| | C D Eb F Gb G# A# B C
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! | genchain
! | genchain
|-
|-
| | 1st Porcupine [7]
| | 1st Porcupine[7]
|1st Triyo [7]
|1st Triyo[7]
| | ssss ssL
| | ssss ssL
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb C
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb C
| | <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb
| | <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb
|-
|-
| | 2nd Porcupine [7]
| | 2nd Porcupine[7]
|2nd Triyo [7]
|2nd Triyo[7]
| | ssss sLs
| | ssss sLs
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb^ C
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^ Bb^ C
| | Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^
| | Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv Ab^
|-
|-
| | 3rd Porcupine [7]
| | 3rd Porcupine[7]
|3rd Triyo [7]
|3rd Triyo[7]
| | ssss Lss
| | ssss Lss
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Av Bb^ C
| | C Dv Eb^ F Gv Av Bb^ C
| | Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv
| | Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F Gv
|-
|-
| | 4th Porcupine [7]
| | 4th Porcupine[7]
|4th Triyo [7]
|4th Triyo[7]
| | sssL sss
| | sssL sss
| | C Dv Eb^ F G Av Bb^ C
| | C Dv Eb^ F G Av Bb^ C
| | G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F
| | G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F
|-
|-
| | 5th Porcupine [7]
| | 5th Porcupine[7]
|5th Triyo [7]
|5th Triyo[7]
| | ssLs sss
| | ssLs sss
| | C Dv Eb^ F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | C Dv Eb^ F^ G Av Bb^ C
| style="text-align:center;" | F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^
| style="text-align:center;" | F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^
|-
|-
| | 6th Porcupine [7]
| | 6th Porcupine[7]
|6th Triyo [7]
|6th Triyo[7]
| | sLss sss
| | sLss sss
| | C Dv Ev F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | C Dv Ev F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | Ev F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv
| | Ev F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv
|-
|-
| | 7th Porcupine [7]
| | 7th Porcupine[7]
|7th Triyo [7]
|7th Triyo[7]
| | Lsss sss
| | Lsss sss
| | C D Ev F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | C D Ev F^ G Av Bb^ C
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=MODMOS scales=
=MODMOS scales=


[[MODMOS scales]] are named as chromatic alterations of a MOS scale, similar to UDP notation. The ascending melodic minor scale is 5th Meantone [7] #6 #7. The "#" symbol means moved N steps forwards on the genchain, whether the generator is chroma-positive or not. This scale has the same name in 16edo, even though in 16edo, G# is actually flat of G. A good alternative, especially for non-heptatonic and non-fifth-based scales, is to use + and - for forwards and backwards, as in 5th Meantone [7] +6 +7.
[[MODMOS scales]] are named as chromatic alterations of a MOS scale, similar to UDP notation. The ascending melodic minor scale is 5th Meantone[7] #6 #7. The "#" symbol means moved N steps forwards on the genchain, whether the generator is chroma-positive or not. This scale has the same name in 16edo, even though in 16edo, G# is actually flat of G. A good alternative, especially for non-heptatonic and non-fifth-based scales, is to use + and - for forwards and backwards, as in 5th Meantone[7] +6 +7.


A MODMOS scale can have alternate names. The ascending melodic minor scale could also be called 2nd Meantone [7] b3 (major scale with a minor 3rd), or as 4th Meantone [7] #7 (dorian with a major 7th). Here are some '''Meantone''' MODMOS scales, with alternate names included only if they don't have more alterations than the original:
A MODMOS scale can have alternate names. The ascending melodic minor scale could also be called 2nd Meantone[7] b3 (major scale with a minor 3rd), or as 4th Meantone[7] #7 (dorian with a major 7th). Here are some '''Meantone''' MODMOS scales, with alternate names included only if they don't have more alterations than the original:


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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
|-
| | Harmonic minor
| | Harmonic minor
| | 5th Meantone [7] #7
| | 5th Meantone[7] #7
| | MsMM sLs
| | MsMM sLs
| | A B C D E F G# A
| | A B C D E F G# A
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|-
|-
| | Ascending melodic minor
| | Ascending melodic minor
| | 5th Meantone [7] #6 #7
| | 5th Meantone[7] #6 #7
| | LsLL LLs
| | LsLL LLs
| | A B C D E F# G# A
| | A B C D E F# G# A
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | (Major with b3)
| style="text-align:center;" | (Major with b3)
| | 2nd Meantone [7] b3
| | 2nd Meantone[7] b3
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | (Dorian with #7)
| style="text-align:center;" | (Dorian with #7)
| | 4th Meantone [7] #7
| | 4th Meantone[7] #7
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
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|-
|-
| | Double harmonic minor
| | Double harmonic minor
| | 5th Meantone [7] #4 #7
| | 5th Meantone[7] #4 #7
| | MsLs sLs
| | MsLs sLs
| | A B C D# E F G# A
| | A B C D# E F G# A
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | (Lydian with b3 b6)
| style="text-align:center;" | (Lydian with b3 b6)
| | 1st Meantone [7] b3 b6
| | 1st Meantone[7] b3 b6
|"
|"
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
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|-
|-
| | Double harmonic major
| | Double harmonic major
| | 2nd Meantone [7] b2 b6
| | 2nd Meantone[7] b2 b6
| | sLsM sLs
| | sLsM sLs
| | A Bb C# D E F G# A
| | A Bb C# D E F G# A
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|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | (Phrygian with #3 #7)
| style="text-align:center;" | (Phrygian with #3 #7)
| | 6th Meantone [7] #3 #7
| | 6th Meantone[7] #3 #7
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
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|-
|-
| | <span style="">Hungarian gypsy </span>minor
| | <span style="">Hungarian gypsy </span>minor
| | 5th Meantone [7] #4
| | 5th Meantone[7] #4
| | MsLs sMM
| | MsLs sMM
| | A B C D# E F G A
| | A B C D# E F G A
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|-
|-
| | Phrygian dominant
| | Phrygian dominant
| | 6th Meantone [7] #3
| | 6th Meantone[7] #3
| | sLsM sMM
| | sLsM sMM
| | A Bb C# D E F G A
| | A Bb C# D E F G A
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Unlike MOS scales, adjacent MODMOS modes differ by more than one note. Harmonic minor modes:
Unlike MOS scales, adjacent MODMOS modes differ by more than one note. Harmonic minor modes:


1st Meantone [7] #2: C D# E F# G A B C <br>
1st Meantone[7] #2: C D# E F# G A B C <br>
2nd Meantone [7] #:5 C D E F G# A B C<br>
2nd Meantone[7] #:5 C D E F G# A B C<br>
7th Meantone [7] b4 b7: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bbb C (breaks the pattern, 7th mode not 3rd mode)<br>
7th Meantone[7] b4 b7: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bbb C (breaks the pattern, 7th mode not 3rd mode)<br>
4th Meantone [7] #4: C D Eb F# G A Bb C<br>
4th Meantone[7] #4: C D Eb F# G A Bb C<br>
5th Meantone [7] #7: C D Eb F G Ab B C (harmonic minor)<br>
5th Meantone[7] #7: C D Eb F G Ab B C (harmonic minor)<br>
6th Meantone [7] #3: C Db E F G Ab Bb C (phrygian dominant)<br>
6th Meantone[7] #3: C Db E F G Ab Bb C (phrygian dominant)<br>
7th Meantone [7] #6: C Db Eb F Gb A Bb C
7th Meantone[7] #6: C Db Eb F Gb A Bb C


The 3rd scale breaks the pattern to avoid an altered tonic ("3rd Meantone [7] #1"). The Bbb is "b7" not "bb7" because the 7th mode is Locrian, and Bbb is only one semitone flat of the Locrian mode's minor 7th Bb.
The 3rd scale breaks the pattern to avoid an altered tonic ("3rd Meantone[7] #1"). The Bbb is "b7" not "bb7" because the 7th mode is Locrian, and Bbb is only one semitone flat of the Locrian mode's minor 7th Bb.


Ascending melodic minor modes:
Ascending melodic minor modes:


1st Meantone [7] #5: C D E F# G# A B C<br>
1st Meantone[7] #5: C D E F# G# A B C<br>
7th Meantone [7] b4: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bb C (avoid "2nd Meantone [7] #1")<br>
7th Meantone[7] b4: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bb C (avoid "2nd Meantone[7] #1")<br>
3rd Meantone [7] #4: C D E F# G A Bb C<br>
3rd Meantone[7] #4: C D E F# G A Bb C<br>
4th Meantone [7] #7: C D Eb F G A B C<br>
4th Meantone[7] #7: C D Eb F G A B C<br>
5th Meantone [7] #3: C D E F G Ab Bb C<br>
5th Meantone[7] #3: C D E F G Ab Bb C<br>
6th Meantone [7] #6: C Db Eb F G A Bb C<br>
6th Meantone[7] #6: C Db Eb F G A Bb C<br>
7th Meantone [7] #2: C D Eb F Gb Ab Bb C
7th Meantone[7] #2: C D Eb F Gb Ab Bb C


'''Porcupine[7] MODMOS scales''', not including alternative names because they all modify the 3rd or the 5th.
'''Porcupine[7] MODMOS scales''', not including alternative names because they all modify the 3rd or the 5th.
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! | genchain
! | genchain
|-
|-
| |7th Porcupine [7] #6 #7
| |7th Porcupine[7] #6 #7
| |7th Triyo [7] #6 #7
| |7th Triyo[7] #6 #7
| |Lmmm Lms
| |Lmmm Lms
| | C D Ev F^ G A Bv C
| | C D Ev F^ G A Bv C
| | A Bv * D Ev F^ G * * <u>'''C'''</u>
| | A Bv * D Ev F^ G * * <u>'''C'''</u>
|-
|-
|7th Porcupine [7] #7
|7th Porcupine[7] #7
|7th Triyo [7] #7
|7th Triyo[7] #7
|Lmmm mLs
|Lmmm mLs
|C D Ev F^ G Av Bv C
|C D Ev F^ G Av Bv C
|Bv * D Ev F^ G Av * <u>'''C'''</u>
|Bv * D Ev F^ G Av * <u>'''C'''</u>
|-
|-
| |5th Porcupine [7] #2
| |5th Porcupine[7] #2
| |5th Triyo [7] #2
| |5th Triyo[7] #2
| | LsLm mmm
| | LsLm mmm
| | C D Eb^ F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | C D Eb^ F^ G Av Bb^ C
| | D * F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * Eb^
| | D * F^ G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * Eb^
|-
|-
|4th Porcupine [7] #2
|4th Porcupine[7] #2
|4th Triyo [7] #2
|4th Triyo[7] #2
|LsmL mmm
|LsmL mmm
|C D Eb^ F G Av Bb^ C
|C D Eb^ F G Av Bb^ C
|D * * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * Eb^ F
|D * * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * Eb^ F
|-
|-
| | 7th Porcupine [7] b4
| | 7th Porcupine[7] b4
| |7th Triyo [7] b4
| |7th Triyo[7] b4
| | LmsL mmm
| | LmsL mmm
| | C D Ev F G Av Bb^ C
| | C D Ev F G Av Bb^ C
| | D Ev * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * * F
| | D Ev * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> * * F
|-
|-
| | 6th Porcupine [7] b4
| | 6th Porcupine[7] b4
| |6th Triyo [7] b4
| |6th Triyo[7] b4
| | mLsL mmm
| | mLsL mmm
| | C Dv Ev F G Av Bb^ C
| | C Dv Ev F G Av Bb^ C
| | Ev * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv * F
| | Ev * G Av Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv * F
|-
|-
| | 4th Porcupine [7] b6
| | 4th Porcupine[7] b6
| |4th Triyo [7] b6
| |4th Triyo[7] b6
| | mmmL sLm
| | mmmL sLm
| | C Dv Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb^ C
| | C Dv Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb^ C
| | G * Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F * Ab^
| | G * Bb^ <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F * Ab^
|-
|-
|4th Porcupine [7] b6 b7
|4th Porcupine[7] b6 b7
|4th Triyo [7] b6 b7
|4th Triyo[7] b6 b7
|mmmL smL
|mmmL smL
|C Dv Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb C
|C Dv Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb C
|G * * <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F * Ab^ Bb
|G * * <u>'''C'''</u> Dv Eb^ F * Ab^ Bb
|-
|-
|7th Porcupine [7] b4 #7
|7th Porcupine[7] b4 #7
|7th Triyo [7] b4 #7
|7th Triyo[7] b4 #7
|LmsL mLs
|LmsL mLs
|C D Ev F G Av Bv C
|C D Ev F G Av Bv C
|Bv * D Ev * G Av * <u>'''C'''</u> * * F
|Bv * D Ev * G Av * <u>'''C'''</u> * * F
|-
|-
|4th Porcupine [7] #2 b6
|4th Porcupine[7] #2 b6
|4th Triyo [7] #2 b6
|4th Triyo[7] #2 b6
|LsmL sLm
|LsmL sLm
|C D Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb^ C
|C D Eb^ F G Ab^ Bb^ C
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If a rank-2 temperament's [[pergen]] has a split octave, the temperament has multiple genchains running in parallel. In order to be a MOS scale, the parallel genchains must not only be the right length, and without any gaps, but also must line up exactly, so that each note has a neighbor immediately above and/or below. In other words, every column of the lattice must be complete.
If a rank-2 temperament's [[pergen]] has a split octave, the temperament has multiple genchains running in parallel. In order to be a MOS scale, the parallel genchains must not only be the right length, and without any gaps, but also must line up exactly, so that each note has a neighbor immediately above and/or below. In other words, every column of the lattice must be complete.


'''[[Srutal]] aka Sagugu''' has a half-8ve period. All five Srutal [10] modes, using ups and downs. Every other scale note has a down.
'''[[Srutal]] aka Sagugu''' has a half-8ve period. All five Srutal[10] modes, using ups and downs. Every other scale note has a down.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! | 2nd genchain
! | 2nd genchain
|-
|-
| | 1st Srutal [10]
| | 1st Srutal[10]
| | 1st Sagugu [10]
| | 1st Sagugu[10]
| | ssssL-ssssL
| | ssssL-ssssL
| | C C#v D D#v E F#v G G#v A A#v C
| | C C#v D D#v E F#v G G#v A A#v C
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| | F#v C#v G#v D#v A#v
| | F#v C#v G#v D#v A#v
|-
|-
| | 2nd Srutal [10]
| | 2nd Srutal[10]
| | 2nd Sagugu [10]
| | 2nd Sagugu[10]
| | sssLs-sssLs
| | sssLs-sssLs
| | C C#v D D#v F F#v G G#v A Bv C
| | C C#v D D#v F F#v G G#v A Bv C
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| | Bv F#v C#v G#v D#v
| | Bv F#v C#v G#v D#v
|-
|-
| | 3rd Srutal [10]
| | 3rd Srutal[10]
| | 3rd Sagugu [10]
| | 3rd Sagugu[10]
| | ssLss-ssLss
| | ssLss-ssLss
| | C C#v D Ev F F#v G G#v Bb Bv C
| | C C#v D Ev F F#v G G#v Bb Bv C
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| | Ev Bv F#v C#v G#v
| | Ev Bv F#v C#v G#v
|-
|-
| | 4th Srutal [10]
| | 4th Srutal[10]
| | 4th Sagugu [10]
| | 4th Sagugu[10]
| | sLsss-sLsss
| | sLsss-sLsss
| | C C#v Eb Ev F F#v G Av Bb Bv C
| | C C#v Eb Ev F F#v G Av Bb Bv C
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| | Av Ev Bv F#v C#v
| | Av Ev Bv F#v C#v
|-
|-
| | 5th Srutal [10]
| | 5th Srutal[10]
| | 5th Sagugu [10]
| | 5th Sagugu[10]
| | Lssss-Lssss
| | Lssss-Lssss
| | C Dv Eb Ev F F#v Ab Av Bb Bv C
| | C Dv Eb Ev F F#v Ab Av Bb Bv C
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F#^^ ------ G
F#^^ ------ G


Both Diminished [8] modes, using ups and downs:
Both Diminished[8] modes, using ups and downs:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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| | A^ E^
| | A^ E^
|-
|-
| | 2nd Diminished [8]
| | 2nd Diminished[8]
|2nd Quadgu[8]
|2nd Quadgu[8]
| | LsLs LsLs
| | LsLs LsLs
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|}
|}


[[Blackwood|'''Blackwood''']] '''aka 5-edo+ya''' has a fifth-octave period of 240¢. The generator is a just 5/4 = 386¢. There are only two [[Blackwood]] [10] modes. The lattice can be expressed using a 3\5 period. Ups and downs indicate the generator, not the period:
[[Blackwood|'''Blackwood''']] '''aka 5-edo+ya''' has a fifth-octave period of 240¢. The generator is a just 5/4 = 386¢. There are only two [[Blackwood]][10] modes. The lattice can be expressed using a 3\5 period. Ups and downs indicate the generator, not the period:


F ------ Av
F ------ Av
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! | genchains
! | genchains
|-
|-
| | 1st Blackwood [10]
| | 1st Blackwood[10]
|1st 5edo+ya[10]
|1st 5edo+ya[10]
| | Ls-Ls-Ls-Ls-Ls
| | Ls-Ls-Ls-Ls-Ls
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| style="text-align:center;" | <u>'''C'''</u>-Ev, D-F#v, F-Av, G-Bv, A-C#v
| style="text-align:center;" | <u>'''C'''</u>-Ev, D-F#v, F-Av, G-Bv, A-C#v
|-
|-
| | 2nd Blackwood [10]
| | 2nd Blackwood[10]
|2nd 5-edo+ya[10]
|2nd 5-edo+ya[10]
| | sL-sL-sL-sL-sL
| | sL-sL-sL-sL-sL
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=Other rank-2 scales=
=Other rank-2 scales=


These are scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS. Some scales have too many or too few notes. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. But if there are chromatic alterations, and the genchain has gaps, there's no clear way to number the notes, and no clear way to name the scale. Such a scale must be named as a MOS scale with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale. Meantone examples:
These are scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS. Some scales have too many or too few notes. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone[6], Meantone[8], etc. But if there are chromatic alterations, and the genchain has gaps, there's no clear way to number the notes, and no clear way to name the scale. Such a scale must be named as a MOS scale with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale. Meantone examples:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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| | C D E F F# G A B C
| | C D E F F# G A B C
| | F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F#
| | F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E B F#
| | C 2nd Meantone [8]
| | C 2nd Meantone[8]
| | LLMs MLLM
| | LLMs MLLM
|-
|-
| | C D E F F# G A Bb C
| | C D E F F# G A Bb C
| | Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E * F#
| | Bb F <u>'''C'''</u> G D A E * F#
| | C 3rd Meantone [7] add #4
| | C 3rd Meantone[7] add #4
| | LLMs MLML
| | LLMs MLML
|-
|-
| | A B C D D# E F G# A
| | A B C D D# E F G# A
| | F C * D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | F C * D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4
| | A 5th Meantone[7] #7 add #4
| | LMLs MMXM
| | LMLs MMXM
|-
|-
| | A B C D D# E G# A
| | A B C D D# E G# A
| | C * D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | C * D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4 no6
| | A 5th Meantone[7] #7 add #4 no6
| | LMLs MXM
| | LMLs MXM
|-
|-
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| | A B C# D D# E F# G G# A
| | A B C# D D# E F# G G# A
| | G D <u>'''A'''</u> E B F# C# G# D#
| | G D <u>'''A'''</u> E B F# C# G# D#
| | A 3rd Meantone [9]
| | A 3rd Meantone[9]
| | LLMsM LMsM
| | LLMsM LMsM
|-
|-
| | A B C D D# E F G G# A
| | A B C D D# E F G G# A
| | F C G D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | F C G D <u>'''A'''</u> E B * * G# D#
| | A 5th Meantone [7] add #4, #7
| | A 5th Meantone[7] add #4, #7
| | LMLsM MLsM
| | LMLsM MLsM
|-
|-
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| | F G A C D E F
| | F G A C D E F
| | <u>'''F'''</u> C G D A E
| | <u>'''F'''</u> C G D A E
| | F 1st Meantone [6]
| | F 1st Meantone[6]
| | MML MMs
| | MML MMs
|-
|-
| | G A C D E F# G
| | G A C D E F# G
| | C <u>'''G'''</u> D A E * F#
| | C <u>'''G'''</u> D A E * F#
| | G 2nd Meantone [7] no3
| | G 2nd Meantone[7] no3
| | MLM MMs
| | MLM MMs
|-
|-
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| | F G A C E F
| | F G A C E F
| | <u>'''F'''</u> C G * A E
| | <u>'''F'''</u> C G * A E
| | F 2nd Meantone [7] no4 no6
| | F 2nd Meantone[7] no4 no6
| | MML Xs
| | MML Xs
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| | F 1st Meantone [7] no4 no6
| | F 1st Meantone[7] no4 no6
| | "
| | "
|-
|-
| | A B C E F A
| | A B C E F A
| | F C * * <u>'''A'''</u> E B
| | F C * * <u>'''A'''</u> E B
| | A 5th Meantone [7] no4 no7
| | A 5th Meantone[7] no4 no7
| | MsL sL
| | MsL sL
|}
|}
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Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone[7] #7 no2 add #4.
Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone[7] #7 no2 add #4.


Another possibility is a scale that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone [5] with added notes: Which brings us to...
Another possibility is a scale that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone[5] with added notes: Which brings us to...


=Non-heptatonic Scales=
=Non-heptatonic Scales=


As long as we stick to MOS scales, terms like Meantone [5] or Meantone [6] are fine. But when we alter, add or drop notes, we need to define what something like "#5" means in a pentatonic or hexatonic context.
As long as we stick to MOS scales, terms like Meantone[5] or Meantone[6] are fine. But when we alter, add or drop notes, we need to define what something like "#5" means in a pentatonic or hexatonic context.


If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone [5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone [5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is being used.
If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone[5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone[5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is being used.


The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Because the pentatonic fifth is chroma-negative, the fifthward side of the genchain is flat and the fourthwards side is sharp (assuming a fifth &lt; 720¢). Use "+" for fifthwards and "-" for fourthwards.
The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Because the pentatonic fifth is chroma-negative, the fifthward side of the genchain is flat and the fourthwards side is sharp (assuming a fifth &lt; 720¢). Use "+" for fifthwards and "-" for fourthwards.
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and these standard modes:
and these standard modes:


L 1st Meantone [5] = L M +N J +K L<br>
L 1st Meantone[5] = L M +N J +K L<br>
L 2nd Meantone [5] = L M N J +K L<br>
L 2nd Meantone[5] = L M N J +K L<br>
L 3rd Meantone [5] = L M N J K L<br>
L 3rd Meantone[5] = L M N J K L<br>
L 4th Meantone [5] = L -M N J K L<br>
L 4th Meantone[5] = L -M N J K L<br>
L 5th Meantone [5] = L -M N -J K L
L 5th Meantone[5] = L -M N -J K L


The A C B D F E G A scale becomes L M -M N J +K K L, which has 3 possible names:
The A C B D F E G A scale becomes L M -M N J +K K L, which has 3 possible names:


L 3rd Meantone [5] add -2, +5<br>
L 3rd Meantone[5] add -2, +5<br>
L 2nd Meantone [5] add -2, -5<br>
L 2nd Meantone[5] add -2, -5<br>
L 4th Meantone [5] add +2, +5
L 4th Meantone[5] add +2, +5


Sensi is a good example because it's nether heptatonic nor fifth-generated. Below is a Sensi [8] MOS and a Sensi [8] MODMOS, each in both heptatonic and octotonic notation. The generator, a heptatonic 3rd or octotonic 4th, is chroma-negative. In 19edo, generator = 7\19, L = 3\19, and s = 2\19.
Sensi is a good example because it's nether heptatonic nor fifth-generated. Below is a Sensi[8] MOS and a Sensi[8] MODMOS, each in both heptatonic and octotonic notation. The generator, a heptatonic 3rd or octotonic 4th, is chroma-negative. In 19edo, generator = 7\19, L = 3\19, and s = 2\19.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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|-
|-
| | heptatonic
| | heptatonic
| | 5th Sensi [8]
| | 5th Sensi[8]
|5th Sepgu [8]
|5th Sepgu[8]
| | sL sL ssLs
| | sL sL ssLs
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A B C
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A B C
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|-
|-
| | octotonic
| | octotonic
| | 5th Sensi [8]
| | 5th Sensi[8]
|5th Sepgu [8]
|5th Sepgu[8]
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| | C D E# F G# H A B# C
| | C D E# F G# H A B# C
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|-
|-
| | heptatonic
| | heptatonic
| | 5th Sensi [8] +7
| | 5th Sensi[8] +7
|5th Sepgu [8] +7
|5th Sepgu[8] +7
| | sL sL sssL
| | sL sL sssL
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A Bb C
| | C Db Eb E# Gb G# A Bb C
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|-
|-
| | octotonic
| | octotonic
| | 5th Sensi [8] +8
| | 5th Sensi[8] +8
|5th Sepgu [8] +8
|5th Sepgu[8] +8
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| style="text-align:center;" | "
| | C D E# F G# H A B C
| | C D E# F G# H A B C
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'''Then why not always choose the larger of the two generators?'''
'''Then why not always choose the larger of the two generators?'''


Interval arithmetic is easier with smaller intervals. It's easier to add up stacked 2nds than stacked 7ths. Also, when the generator is a 2nd, the genchain is often identical to the scale, simplifying mode numbering. (See Porcupine [7] above.)
Interval arithmetic is easier with smaller intervals. It's easier to add up stacked 2nds than stacked 7ths. Also, when the generator is a 2nd, the genchain is often identical to the scale, simplifying mode numbering. (See Porcupine[7] above.)


'''Why not always choose the chroma-positive generator?'''
'''Why not always choose the chroma-positive generator?'''
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|}
|}


A larger problem is that choosing the chroma-positive generator only applies to MOS and MODMOS scales, and breaks down when the length of the genchain results in a non-MOS scale. Mode Numbers notation can be applied to scales like Meantone [8], which while not a MOS, is certainly musically useful.
A larger problem is that choosing the chroma-positive generator only applies to MOS and MODMOS scales, and breaks down when the length of the genchain results in a non-MOS scale. Mode Numbers notation can be applied to scales like Meantone[8], which while not a MOS, is certainly musically useful.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! | Mode Numbers genchain
! | Mode Numbers genchain
|-
|-
| | Meantone [2]
| | Meantone[2]
| | C G
| | C G
| | C G
| | C G
|-
|-
| | Meantone [3]
| | Meantone[3]
| | D G C
| | D G C
| | C G D
| | C G D
|-
|-
| | Meantone [4]
| | Meantone[4]
| | ???
| | ???
| | C G D A
| | C G D A
|-
|-
| | Meantone [5]
| | Meantone[5]
| | E A D G C
| | E A D G C
| | C G D A E
| | C G D A E
|-
|-
| | Meantone [6]
| | Meantone[6]
| | ???
| | ???
| | G C D A E B
| | G C D A E B
|-
|-
| | Meantone [7]
| | Meantone[7]
| | C G D A E B F#
| | C G D A E B F#
| | C G D A E B F#
| | C G D A E B F#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [8]
| | Meantone[8]
| | ???
| | ???
| | C G D A E B F# C#
| | C G D A E B F# C#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [9]
| | Meantone[9]
| | ???
| | ???
| | C G D A E B F# C# G#
| | C G D A E B F# C# G#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [10]
| | Meantone[10]
| | ???
| | ???
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D#
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [11]
| | Meantone[11]
| | ???
| | ???
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A#
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [12] if generator &lt; 700¢
| | Meantone[12] if generator &lt; 700¢
| | E# A# D# G# C# F# B E A D G C
| | E# A# D# G# C# F# B E A D G C
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
|-
|-
| | Meantone [12] if generator &gt; 700¢
| | Meantone[12] if generator &gt; 700¢
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
| | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
| style="text-align:center;" | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
| style="text-align:center;" | C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E#
|}
|}


An even larger problem is that the notation is overly tuning-dependent. Meantone [12] generated by 701¢ has a different genchain than Meantone [12] generated by 699¢, so slight differences in tempering result in different mode names. One might address this problem by reasonably constraining meantone's fifth to be less than 700¢. Likewise one could constrain Superpyth [12]'s fifth to be more than 700¢. But this approach fails with Dominant meantone, which tempers out both 81/80 and 64/63, and in which the fifth can reasonably be either more or less than 700¢. This makes every single UDP mode of Dominant [12] ambiguous. For example "Dominant 8|3" could mean either "4th Dominant [12]" or "9th Dominant [12]". Something similar happens with Meantone [19]. If the fifth is greater than 694¢ = 11\19, the generator is 3/2, but if less than 694¢, it's 4/3. This makes every UDP mode of Meantone [19] ambiguous. Another example is Dicot [7] or Mohajira [7] when the neutral 3rd generator is greater or less than 2\7 = 343¢. Another example is Semaphore [5]'s generator of ~8/7 or ~7/6 if near 1\5 = 240¢. In general, this ambiguity arises whenever the generator of an N-note MOS ranges from slightly flat of any N-edo interval to slightly sharp of it.
An even larger problem is that the notation is overly tuning-dependent. Meantone[12] generated by 701¢ has a different genchain than Meantone[12] generated by 699¢, so slight differences in tempering result in different mode names. One might address this problem by reasonably constraining meantone's fifth to be less than 700¢. Likewise one could constrain Superpyth[12]'s fifth to be more than 700¢. But this approach fails with Dominant meantone, which tempers out both 81/80 and 64/63, and in which the fifth can reasonably be either more or less than 700¢. This makes every single UDP mode of Dominant[12] ambiguous. For example "Dominant 8|3" could mean either "4th Dominant[12]" or "9th Dominant[12]". Something similar happens with Meantone[19]. If the fifth is greater than 694¢ = 11\19, the generator is 3/2, but if less than 694¢, it's 4/3. This makes every UDP mode of Meantone[19] ambiguous. Another example is Dicot[7] or Mohajira[7] when the neutral 3rd generator is greater or less than 2\7 = 343¢. Another example is Semaphore[5]'s generator of ~8/7 or ~7/6 if near 1\5 = 240¢. In general, this ambiguity arises whenever the generator of an N-note MOS ranges from slightly flat of any N-edo interval to slightly sharp of it.


Three other problems with UDP are more issues of taste. The most important piece of information, the number of notes in the scale, is hidden by UDP notation. It must be calculated by adding together the up, down, and period numbers (and the period number is often omitted). For example, to determine that Meantone 5|1 is heptatonic, one must add the 5, the 1 and the omitted 1. If the number of notes is indicated with brackets, e.g. Meantone [7] 5|1, then three numbers are used where only two are needed. And split-octave temperaments, e.g. Srutal [10] 6|2(2), use four numbers where only two are needed.
Three other problems with UDP are more issues of taste. The most important piece of information, the number of notes in the scale, is hidden by UDP notation. It must be calculated by adding together the up, down, and period numbers (and the period number is often omitted). For example, to determine that Meantone 5|1 is heptatonic, one must add the 5, the 1 and the omitted 1. If the number of notes is indicated with brackets, e.g. Meantone[7] 5|1, then three numbers are used where only two are needed. And split-octave temperaments, e.g. Srutal[10] 6|2(2), use four numbers where only two are needed.


Also, when comparing different MOS's of a temperament, with Mode Numbers notation but not with UDP, the Nth mode of the smaller MOS is always a subset of the Nth mode of the larger MOS. For example, Meantone [5] is generated by 3/2, not 4/3 as with UDP. Because Meantone [5] and Meantone [7] have the same generator, C 2nd Meantone [5] = C D F G A C is a subset of C 2nd Meantone [7] = C D E F G A B C. But using UDP, C Meantone 3|1 = C Eb F G Bb C isn't a subset of C Meantone 5|1 = C D E F G A B C.
Also, when comparing different MOS's of a temperament, with Mode Numbers notation but not with UDP, the Nth mode of the smaller MOS is always a subset of the Nth mode of the larger MOS. For example, Meantone[5] is generated by 3/2, not 4/3 as with UDP. Because Meantone[5] and Meantone[7] have the same generator, C 2nd Meantone[5] = C D F G A C is a subset of C 2nd Meantone[7] = C D E F G A B C. But using UDP, C Meantone 3|1 = C Eb F G Bb C isn't a subset of C Meantone 5|1 = C D E F G A B C.


Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering zero-based counting] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented.
Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering zero-based counting] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented.