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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]]
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**Superpyth**, a member of the [[Archytas clan]], has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for [[meantone]] and [[12edo]], with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the [[@http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number|plastic number]]has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.
**Superpyth**, a member of the [[Archytas clan]], has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for [[meantone]] and [[12edo]], with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the [[@http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number|plastic number]]has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.


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See [[5L 7s]]. The boundary of propriety is [[17edo]].
See [[5L 7s]]. The boundary of propriety is [[17edo]].


=Music=
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[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr.mp3|12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr]]
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[[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22gamelan1b.mp3|12of22gamelan1b]]
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By [[Joel Grant Taylor]], all in Superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.</pre></div>
By [[Joel Grant Taylor]], all in Superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.</pre></div>
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&lt;strong&gt;Superpyth&lt;/strong&gt;, a member of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan"&gt;Archytas clan&lt;/a&gt;, has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempered out&lt;/a&gt;, so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;plastic number&lt;/a&gt;has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:43 --&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Superpyth&lt;/strong&gt;, a member of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan"&gt;Archytas clan&lt;/a&gt;, has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempered out&lt;/a&gt;, so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;, with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;plastic number&lt;/a&gt;has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is &amp;quot;the opposite of&amp;quot; septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.&lt;br /&gt;
If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is &amp;quot;the opposite of&amp;quot; septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22studyPentUp4thsMstr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22gamelan1b.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22gamelan1b&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22gamelan1b.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22gamelan1b&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22study3.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22study3 (children's story)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Taylor/12of22study3.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;12of22study3 (children's story)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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By &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Joel%20Grant%20Taylor"&gt;Joel Grant Taylor&lt;/a&gt;, all in Superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
By &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Joel%20Grant%20Taylor"&gt;Joel Grant Taylor&lt;/a&gt;, all in Superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>