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::: That's why I included 31edo in the comparison — if it was just a matter of being used to 12edo, then 31edo's barbershop chord wouldn't sound good. The 12edo version is a fudge for 4:5:6:7, with substitution of a pretty good 16/9 for the 7/4 (it still fits in the general vicinity of a minor seventh), whereas 19edo doesn't offer a substitute that fits in the right interval zone (just intervals 26/15 and especially 19/11 are close to 15\19, but they sound more like slightly stretched major sixths). [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 17:56, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

:::: In my opinion 7/4 sounds more like a seventh than a sixth, but still somewhat ambiguous. 19edo captures (and exaggerates) that ambiguous nature, but 12edo makes it clearly a minor seventh. The 19edo ~4:5:6:7 still sounds off, but still closer to 4:5:6:7 than the 12edo one, even if it doesn't sound as "good" as 12edo because the ~7/4 doesn't sound like as much of a seventh.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 18:07, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

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	::: That's why I included 31edo in the comparison — if it was just a matter of being used to 12edo, then 31edo's barbershop chord wouldn't sound good. The 12edo version is a fudge for 4:5:6:7, with substitution of a pretty good 16/9 for the 7/4 (it still fits in the general vicinity of a minor seventh), whereas 19edo doesn't offer a substitute that fits in the right interval zone (just intervals 26/15 and especially 19/11 are close to 15\19, but they sound more like slightly stretched major sixths). [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|talk]]) 17:56, 14 February 2026 (UTC)		::: That's why I included 31edo in the comparison — if it was just a matter of being used to 12edo, then 31edo's barbershop chord wouldn't sound good. The 12edo version is a fudge for 4:5:6:7, with substitution of a pretty good 16/9 for the 7/4 (it still fits in the general vicinity of a minor seventh), whereas 19edo doesn't offer a substitute that fits in the right interval zone (just intervals 26/15 and especially 19/11 are close to 15\19, but they sound more like slightly stretched major sixths). [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|talk]]) 17:56, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

			:::: In my opinion 7/4 sounds more like a seventh than a sixth, but still somewhat ambiguous. 19edo captures (and exaggerates) that ambiguous nature, but 12edo makes it clearly a minor seventh. The 19edo ~4:5:6:7 still sounds off, but still closer to 4:5:6:7 than the 12edo one, even if it doesn't sound as "good" as 12edo because the ~7/4 doesn't sound like as much of a seventh.--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 18:07, 14 February 2026 (UTC)