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=== Table of P-2 telic edos ===
=== Table of P-2 telic edos ===
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{| class="wikitable"
|+
|3-2 telic
| rowspan="4" |1
|2
|5
|12
2-strong
|53
3-strong
|306
|665
11-strong
|15601
|31867
|79335
|190537
28-strong
|-
|5-2 telic
|3
4-strong
|28
|59
|146
2-strong
|643
3-strong
|4004
|8651
|12655
|21306
2-strong
|97879
9-strong
|-
|7-2 telic
|5
2-strong
|26
2-strong
|109
2-strong
|571
2-strong
|2694
15-strong
|91313
2-strong
|453601
4-strong
|
|
|
|-
|11-2 telic
|2
3-strong
|13
|37
13-strong
|986
|1935
|4856
|16503
12-strong
|
|
|
|}
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== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Consistent circle]]
* [[Consistent circle]]
[[Category:EDO theory pages]]
[[Category:EDO theory pages]]
[[Category:Terms]]
[[Category:Terms]]

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This is a major rewrite of the "Telicity" article, as it was incredibly mathed up and very hard to parse and understand what is meant to be explained. So I stepped in. (Thanks to Aura for suggestions and help)

There's still math, but much less math. And also continued fractions are important.

Feel free to change anything after ARTICLE START. I left out loads of cool bits, but I can't be writing articles all day now can I?

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ARTICLE START

Telicity is a property of both equal temperaments and commas and how they relate to each other. An edo is p-2 telic when it tempers a comma in 2.p subgroup for a prime p, and that comma is smaller than half an edostep.

Commas and equal temperaments that demonstrate this property are referred to as as being telic. When a given EDO is telic in a given multiprime relationship by more than one means, it can be said to be multitelic.

Telicity and Continued fractions

In order to understand how and why telicity is useful, one must first look at continued fractions to see how telicity can be derived.

n-m telicity in any equal division of n satisfies the following:

  • The equal division of m is a denominator appearing in the continued fraction of logm(n).
  • The comma that arises from stacking mnumerator/ndenominator of the convergent is smaller than half an ed-m-step.

Mathematically, this is satisfied with the following:

[math]\displaystyle{ d_{enominator}\left(C\right)\left|d_{enominator}\left(C\right)\log_{m}\left(n\right)-n_{umerator}\left(C\right)\right|<\frac{1}{2} }[/math]

When m is equal to 2, the result is an n-2 telic edo, if it's not equal to 2, it's an edonoi.

Multitelicity

If said produced comma is also smaller than k halves of an ed-m-step, then the edm is k-strong m-n telic, which means that the comma is smaller than not only half of an ed-m-step, but also half/2 (a quarter), or half/3 (a sixth)... etc. Essentially not only the (denominator)ed-m is convergent, but also its multiples. This makes it multitelic.

Mathematically, this is expressed as the following:

[math]\displaystyle{ k\cdot d_{enominator}\left(C\right)\left|d_{enominator}\left(C\right)\log_{m}\left(n\right)-n_{umerator}\left(C\right)\right|<\frac{1}{2} }[/math]

Multitelicity is not the same as having many telicities. For example, 12edo is 3-2 telic and 5-2 telic, but only multitelic in the 3-2.

Examples

Here is the series of convergents for log2(3):

The commas that arise from these edos are the following, with the corresponding :

Of those, 41edo is not telic because its comma, the countercomp comma, is larger than half an edostep. (19.845*2 > 29.268). The next non-telic convergent is 111202edo.

Of those, 12, 53, 665 are multitelic, because they have a k-strength value greater than one; being 2, 3, and 11 respectively, which means that 24, 106, 159, 1330, 1995, 2660, 3325, 3990, 4655, 5320, 5985, 6650, and 7315 are also 3-2 telic.

Applications

Prime approximations

3-2 telic edos have record-breakingly accurate perfect fifths. As well as 5-2 telic edos having record-breakingly accurate ptolemaic major thirds, and so on. These telic edos can stack their optimized intervals extremely well with minimal error, being perfect for incredibly intricate modulations, and overall because they offer astoundingly great approximations of intervals within their telic subgroups.

Non-telic edos with convergent fifths, or semiconvergent fifths (which are never telic), are also incredibly good and offer comparably great intervals, specially if the edo is big enough. Edos with semiconvergent fifths include 7, 17, 29, 94, 147, 200, 253, 359, 971...

MOS

MOS scales generated by a pure prime interval have strictly proper scales, with the softest hardness when they have a scale size that corresponds with a telic edo. For Pythagorean tuning these include 1L 1s (monowood), 2L 3s (pentic), 5L 7s (p-chromatic), 41L 12s.

Scale sizes for edos that have semiconvergent or non-telic convergent generators may generate proper but never strictly proper, or improper scales (I hypothesize this)

Table of P-2 telic edos

3-2 telic 1 2 5 12

2-strong

53

3-strong

306 665

11-strong

15601 31867 79335 190537

28-strong

5-2 telic 3

4-strong

28 59 146

2-strong

643

3-strong

4004 8651 12655 21306

2-strong

97879

9-strong

7-2 telic 5

2-strong

26

2-strong

109

2-strong

571

2-strong

2694

15-strong

91313

2-strong

453601

4-strong

11-2 telic 2

3-strong

13 37

13-strong

986 1935 4856 16503

12-strong

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See also