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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">A //Muddle// is a sort of second-order [[MOSScales|MOS Scale]] useful for generating usable subsets of larger MOS scales and for navigating [[Regular Temperaments]].
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">//Muddling// refers to a process of mapping one periodic scale onto another one; the scale thus produced is a //muddle//. By periodic scale, I mean a scale that repeats "at the something" (octave, tritave, something else). There are two necessary components: a **parent scale** and a **target scale**, or simply "parent" and "target". The parent scale can be any periodic scale at all; the target scale is not exactly a scale -- it's the outline or //shape// of a scale -- and it must be defined in terms of units or degrees which comprise the steps. If the period is an octave, this means the target scale will be a subset of an [[EDO]].


There are two necessary components: A **//parent MOS//** and an **//MOS shape//**. The parent MOS (or "parent scale") is any MOS scale large enough that taking subsets of it would be musically useful. The MOS shape is something like 12122, and it suggests a way of bunching intervals of the parent scale. If we apply the MOS shape to an equal-step scale, we arrive at a standard MOS. Eg. If our parent scale is [[8edo]] -- with steps 11111111 -- and our MOS shape is 12122, then the resulting MOS is (1)(11)(1)(11)(1)(11) = 12122 -- the same as our MOS shape. But if our parent scale is some other MOS, say 22222223 (a subset of [[17edo]]), applying the 12122 shape generates (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245. The latter scale, which we can call a //muddle//, has some melodic similarity to the MOS shape of 12122, but belongs to a different temperament family entirely. Choosing a different mode (rotation) of either the parent scale or the MOS shape may produce a different muddle.
The simplest sort of muddle is a MOS Muddle, which is a sort of second-order [[MOSScales|MOS Scale]] and is useful for generating usable subsets of larger MOS scales and for navigating [[Regular Temperaments]]. This article will mostly deal with MOS muddles, but it should be remembered that this process can be generalized to other structures.
 
=MOS Muddles=
 
In the case of a MOS muddle, the parent scale is any MOS scale large enough that taking subsets of it would be musically useful. The target scale is something like 12122. This could be the form of an actual scale (an MOS subset of [[8edo]], in this example), but as a target scale, we are interested in its general //shape//, which suggests a way of bunching intervals of the parent scale. If we apply the target to an equal-step scale, we arrive at a standard MOS. Eg. If our parent scale is [[8edo]] -- with steps 11111111 -- and our target scale is 12122, then the resulting scale is (1)(11)(1)(11)(1)(11) = 12122 -- the same as our target scale. But if our parent scale is some other MOS scale, say 22222223 (a subset of [[17edo]]), applying the 12122 target scale generates (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245 -- not an MOS scale. The latter scale, which we can call a //muddle//, has some melodic similarity to the target scale of 12122, but belongs to a different temperament family entirely. Choosing a different mode (rotation) of either the parent scale or the target scale may produce a different muddle.


=Examples=  
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To continue with our example of a parent scale of 22222223 and an MOS shape of 12122, here are all the muddles that can result from different rotations of the parent scale:
To continue with our example of a parent scale of 22222223 and a target shape of 12122, here are all the muddles that can result from different rotations of the parent scale:
* 22222223 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245
* 22222223 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245
* 22222232 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(32) = 24245
* 22222232 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(32) = 24245
* 22222322 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(23)(22) = 24254
* 22222322 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(23)(22) = 24254
* 22223222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(32)(22) = 24254
* 22223222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(32)(22) = 24254
* 22232222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(3)(22)(22) = 24344
* 22232222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(3)(22)(22) = 24344
* 22322222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(23)(2)(22)(22) = 25244
* 22322222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(23)(2)(22)(22) = 25244
* 23222222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(32)(2)(22)(22) = 25244
* 23222222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(32)(2)(22)(22) = 25244
* 32222222 parent with 12122 shape gives (3)(22)(2)(22)(22) = 34244
* 32222222 parent with 12122 target gives (3)(22)(2)(22)(22) = 34244
Notice that not all of these rotations are different from each other. The unique muddles are 24245, 24254, 24344, 25244, and 34244.
Notice that not all of these rotations produce unique muddles. The unique muddles are 24245, 24254, 24344, 25244, and 34244.


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Here is a diagram showing the muddles available with 55755757 parent scale ([[Sensi]][8] of [[46edo]]) and 12122 MOS shape. Note that this combination produces MOS scales as well as muddles.
Here is a diagram showing the muddles available with a 55755757 parent scale ([[Sensi]][8] in [[46edo]]) and a 12122 target scale. Note that this combination produces MOS scales as well as muddles.
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Muddles always have more than two sizes of step -- either three or four sizes. Whereas MOS scales have two varieties of interval for each interval class (eg. a "large step" and a "small step"), muddles have potentially two varieties within each variety (eg. two sizes of "small step" and two sizes of "large step"). Parent MOS scales that are close to equal (eg. [[Maximal evenness|maximally even]] scales) will produce muddles that are closer in sound to the MOS shape. Larger parent scales contain more potential muddles than smaller ones, just as larger [[EDO]]s contain more potential MOS scales than smaller ones.
MOS Muddles always have more than two sizes of step -- either three or four sizes. Whereas MOS scales have two varieties of interval for each interval class (eg. a "large step" and a "small step"), muddles have potentially two varieties within each variety (eg. two sizes of "small step" and two sizes of "large step"). Parent scales that are close to equal (eg. [[Maximal evenness|maximally even]] scales) will produce muddles that are closer in sound to the target scale. Larger parent scales contain more potential muddles than smaller ones, just as larger [[EDO]]s contain more potential MOS scales than smaller ones.
 
=Non-MOS Muddles=
 
As mentioned at the beginning, in a muddle, the parent scale can be any kind of periodic scale at all, including but not limited to [[MODMOS scales]], [[MOS Cradle|MOS Cradle scales]], other muddles, scales of [[Regular Temperaments|temperaments]] with rank higher than 2, [[Just Intonation]] scales, etc. The target scale is a little less flexible, but it could be at least a MODMOS scale, a MOS Cradle scale or any other MOS subset or subset of a periodic equal-step scale. It's just important that the total number of "units" in the target scale (eg. the MOS Cradle 23132 has 2+3+1+3+2=11 units) be the same as the number of tones in the parent scale (thus the 23132 target scale must be applied to a scale of 11 tones).


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&lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;As one example of a muddle with a non-MOS parent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;, if you take overtones 16-32 as the parent scale, you can apply a 2322232 target scale and get 1/1, 9/8, 21/16, 23/16, 25/16, 27/16, 15/8, 2/1.&lt;/span&gt;</pre></div>
# One could muddle a muddle (a meta-muddle?).
# One could muddle a [[MODMOS Scales|MODMOS scale]].
# One could muddle a non-MOS scale (muddle or non-muddle? ...still being decided...).
## &lt;span class="commentBody"&gt; For in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;stance, if you take overtones 16-32 as the parent scale, you can apply the 2322232 MOS shape and get 1/1, 9/8, 21/16, 23/16, 25/16, 27/16, 15/8, 2/1.&lt;/span&gt;</pre></div>
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The simplest sort of muddle is a MOS Muddle, which is a sort of second-order &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;MOS Scale&lt;/a&gt; and is useful for generating usable subsets of larger MOS scales and for navigating &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Regular%20Temperaments"&gt;Regular Temperaments&lt;/a&gt;. This article will mostly deal with MOS muddles, but it should be remembered that this process can be generalized to other structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are two necessary components: A &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;parent MOS&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and an &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;MOS shape&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. The parent MOS (or &amp;quot;parent scale&amp;quot;) is any MOS scale large enough that taking subsets of it would be musically useful. The MOS shape is something like 12122, and it suggests a way of bunching intervals of the parent scale. If we apply the MOS shape to an equal-step scale, we arrive at a standard MOS. Eg. If our parent scale is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo"&gt;8edo&lt;/a&gt; -- with steps 11111111 -- and our MOS shape is 12122, then the resulting MOS is (1)(11)(1)(11)(1)(11) = 12122 -- the same as our MOS shape. But if our parent scale is some other MOS, say 22222223 (a subset of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;), applying the 12122 shape generates (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245. The latter scale, which we can call a &lt;em&gt;muddle&lt;/em&gt;, has some melodic similarity to the MOS shape of 12122, but belongs to a different temperament family entirely. Choosing a different mode (rotation) of either the parent scale or the MOS shape may produce a different muddle.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of a MOS muddle, the parent scale is any MOS scale large enough that taking subsets of it would be musically useful. The target scale is something like 12122. This could be the form of an actual scale (an MOS subset of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo"&gt;8edo&lt;/a&gt;, in this example), but as a target scale, we are interested in its general &lt;em&gt;shape&lt;/em&gt;, which suggests a way of bunching intervals of the parent scale. If we apply the target to an equal-step scale, we arrive at a standard MOS. Eg. If our parent scale is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo"&gt;8edo&lt;/a&gt; -- with steps 11111111 -- and our target scale is 12122, then the resulting scale is (1)(11)(1)(11)(1)(11) = 12122 -- the same as our target scale. But if our parent scale is some other MOS scale, say 22222223 (a subset of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo"&gt;17edo&lt;/a&gt;), applying the 12122 target scale generates (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245 -- not an MOS scale. The latter scale, which we can call a &lt;em&gt;muddle&lt;/em&gt;, has some melodic similarity to the target scale of 12122, but belongs to a different temperament family entirely. Choosing a different mode (rotation) of either the parent scale or the target scale may produce a different muddle.&lt;br /&gt;
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To continue with our example of a parent scale of 22222223 and a target shape of 12122, here are all the muddles that can result from different rotations of the parent scale:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222223 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222232 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(32) = 24245&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222322 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(23)(22) = 24254&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22223222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(2)(32)(22) = 24254&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22232222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(22)(3)(22)(22) = 24344&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22322222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(23)(2)(22)(22) = 25244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;23222222 parent with 12122 target gives (2)(32)(2)(22)(22) = 25244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;32222222 parent with 12122 target gives (3)(22)(2)(22)(22) = 34244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Notice that not all of these rotations produce unique muddles. The unique muddles are 24245, 24254, 24344, 25244, and 34244.&lt;br /&gt;
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To continue with our example of a parent scale of 22222223 and an MOS shape of 12122, here are all the muddles that can result from different rotations of the parent scale:&lt;br /&gt;
Here is a diagram showing the muddles available with a 55755757 parent scale (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensi"&gt;Sensi&lt;/a&gt;[8] in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;) and a 12122 target scale. Note that this combination produces MOS scales as well as muddles.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222223 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(23) = 24245&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222232 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(22)(32) = 24245&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22222322 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(23)(22) = 24254&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22223222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(2)(32)(22) = 24254&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22232222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(22)(3)(22)(22) = 24344&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;22322222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(23)(2)(22)(22) = 25244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;23222222 parent with 12122 shape gives (2)(32)(2)(22)(22) = 25244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;32222222 parent with 12122 shape gives (3)(22)(2)(22)(22) = 34244&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Notice that not all of these rotations are different from each other. The unique muddles are 24245, 24254, 24344, 25244, and 34244.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a diagram showing the muddles available with 55755757 parent scale (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sensi"&gt;Sensi&lt;/a&gt;[8] of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;) and 12122 MOS shape. Note that this combination produces MOS scales as well as muddles.&lt;br /&gt;
MOS Muddles always have more than two sizes of step -- either three or four sizes. Whereas MOS scales have two varieties of interval for each interval class (eg. a &amp;quot;large step&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;small step&amp;quot;), muddles have potentially two varieties within each variety (eg. two sizes of &amp;quot;small step&amp;quot; and two sizes of &amp;quot;large step&amp;quot;). Parent scales that are close to equal (eg. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Maximal%20evenness"&gt;maximally even&lt;/a&gt; scales) will produce muddles that are closer in sound to the target scale. Larger parent scales contain more potential muddles than smaller ones, just as larger &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;s contain more potential MOS scales than smaller ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Muddles always have more than two sizes of step -- either three or four sizes. Whereas MOS scales have two varieties of interval for each interval class (eg. a &amp;quot;large step&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;small step&amp;quot;), muddles have potentially two varieties within each variety (eg. two sizes of &amp;quot;small step&amp;quot; and two sizes of &amp;quot;large step&amp;quot;). Parent MOS scales that are close to equal (eg. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Maximal%20evenness"&gt;maximally even&lt;/a&gt; scales) will produce muddles that are closer in sound to the MOS shape. Larger parent scales contain more potential muddles than smaller ones, just as larger &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;s contain more potential MOS scales than smaller ones.&lt;br /&gt;
As mentioned at the beginning, in a muddle, the parent scale can be any kind of periodic scale at all, including but not limited to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MODMOS%20scales"&gt;MODMOS scales&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOS%20Cradle"&gt;MOS Cradle scales&lt;/a&gt;, other muddles, scales of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Regular%20Temperaments"&gt;temperaments&lt;/a&gt; with rank higher than 2, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt; scales, etc. The target scale is a little less flexible, but it could be at least a MODMOS scale, a MOS Cradle scale or any other MOS subset or subset of a periodic equal-step scale. It's just important that the total number of &amp;quot;units&amp;quot; in the target scale (eg. the MOS Cradle 23132 has 2+3+1+3+2=11 units) be the same as the number of tones in the parent scale (thus the 23132 target scale must be applied to a scale of 11 tones).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="commentBody"&gt;As one example of a muddle with a non-MOS parent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;, if you take overtones 16-32 as the parent scale, you can apply a 2322232 target scale and get 1/1, 9/8, 21/16, 23/16, 25/16, 27/16, 15/8, 2/1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;One could muddle a muddle (a meta-muddle?).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;One could muddle a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MODMOS%20Scales"&gt;MODMOS scale&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;One could muddle a non-MOS scale (muddle or non-muddle? ...still being decided...).&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody"&gt; For in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;stance, if you take overtones 16-32 as the parent scale, you can apply the 2322232 MOS shape and get 1/1, 9/8, 21/16, 23/16, 25/16, 27/16, 15/8, 2/1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>